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Stopped being a child the day i left school at 15 and stared making my way in the world . Fortunately had parents who stopped treating me like one from then on ..
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One of dalliances with three older females in my teens including my first at 15 and dated a 25 year old at 18 . Never had any problem with the experiences .As the first was the only one that was illegal i just thought of it as being no big deal and had no reason to tell anyone about it. Just a case of we are all different and don't all handle things in the same way i suppose .
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Female in my daughters class was rumoured to be in a relationship with a young teacher and they did get married a couple of years after she left and still happily so as far as she knows
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And what was the students side of the story. Did he claim something happened or did he back up her story ?
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Consents 16 in UK and after that its up to you regards your sex life . Do have same teacher/ student law as U'S Statutory rape i think just means you were happy ,wanting, willing ,capable of doing what you were doing but the law say's your not . So would say that's about right in this case .
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Stay quiet . Impossible these days even if you have a good thing going .
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I sure as hell not a MINOR at 15/16 . Would not have been dumb enough to believe a female telling me she could not get pregnant . Would have the sense to use protection as i knew it was to prevent things other than pregnancy . Would not have needed bribes like expensive gifts to engage with her as the sex would have been enough to keep me involved. Was brought up to take responsibility for my actions so would not be claiming abuse to cover my own ass if caught .
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I don't really see any abuse involved in this case .
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Think judges in the UK have guidelines on sentences but in the U.S it seems to be at the whim of the judge . Three cases of females involved with 13 year olds .Brittany Zamora - 20 years no parole / Alexandra Vera - 10 years with parole / Marca Bodine - 60 DAYS and 10 years probation . Doubt there would be such a big difference in sentences in the UK
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No social media in my day so easier to keep it under cover if you were involved with an older female teacher or otherwise
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@KaiLucasZachary UK government trying to bring in law banning under 16s owning smartphones
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None of them will want to see each other again i would think . Best for the child would be adoption and well away from it all
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WHY??
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Not exactly a dating thing but i had dalliances with older females in my teens and never thought of doing that in later life . Simply grew out of my fascination with them and married a young thing of 20 at 22
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Parents don't expect kids to take responsibility for there actions these days . At 15/16 i was expected to do that . If i had got involved in something like this my father would have kicked my arse for being such a dumbass . Especially not using condoms
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If they keep it outside the school fine . Going to the prom is a bit weird
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@jdbfortney Where the parents aware of the relationships . if they went to the prom together they were not exactly hiding it so assume others at the school knew
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Has to do the best for her client .Appeal probably in the pipeline so not going to say good things about the guy. Would be interesting to know what she thought about her once the case was finished.
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This child needs to be put up for adoption and kept well away from both of them
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Still not turning her down back in the day
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The problem could be that these "children" do not see themselves as such and will respond to any female giving them the come on . That 's what i was like anyway . I did leave school the Easter after i turned 15 and stared working for a living and that point ceased to be a child and thankfully my parents stopped treating me like one . Doubt i would have got involved with a teacher even if had stayed in school as i hated every one of the b------s the whole time i was there .
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Like myself they re probably looking at it from a personal point of view. What would i have done. Would i have done that. Personally would i have turned down her advances .Probably not . If i knew she was having mental problems would i have got involved . Like to think i would not but willpower may have been lacking . Would i have believed her about not being able to get pregnant . Not a chance plus protection is not only for preventing pregnancy . One thing that might have stopped me getting involved was the ass kicking i knew i would get from my father for getting involved in something i knew was going to get others into trouble . He was not the " my little darling can do no wrong " kind of parent you get these days .
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No doubt abuse does happen but it does not appear to be the case here .
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They will be the usual. "my little darling can do no wrong" type you get all the time now . If i had been up to this crap my father would have kicked my arse for getting involved .
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How do you only get two years for that ?
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Problem i think is we are not all the same . At 15 /16 i was capable of making decisions for myself and had i still been in school ( left at 15) i would most certainly have responded to a good looking teachers advances These guys knew what they were doing but not intelligent enough to do so .Who believes a female telling them they cannot get pregnant . Not a chance of me falling for that one .
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@vickster5815 According to the law i was a month away from being able to consent (16 in UK) but i didn't really care and sure as hell did when the chance of sex came my way
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She's getting paid to defend her client . Probably appeal in the pipeline so not exactly going to be complementary about the guy. All part of the job
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Would i have believed a female telling me she could not get pregnant . Not a chance and there are other reasons for using protection than preventing pregnancy.
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I think they would in the UK
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Have to agree .
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He didn't stand by her when the trial came so doubt it will paly out the same as Letourneau's case
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I did at that age and was expected to take responsibility for my actions . Was i believing the can't get pregnant stuff. Not a chance.
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@haileydahlberg4972 Like us all i did but still look back with fond memories on my dalliances with the older ladies . No teachers though as i hated every one of the b------s i had .
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@haileydahlberg4972 If you are old enough to know what you are doing and not willing to face the consequences of your actions don't get involved. As the saying goes " if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen as they say .
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@haileydahlberg4972 He's a victim all right . Off being an idiot for believing the can't get pregnant crap from some condition he's never heard of bothered to check if that was the case . Not using protection as any sane person knows that's for preventing against other things apart from pregnancy . Probably knew her mental state and took advantage of it which not a very gentlemanly thing to do . Would say he is paying the price for his stupidity with the child being a result of it but hopefully it will be put up foe adoption and well away from all involved
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@WorldOfBooks-yc9km Just see this as a coming together (no pun intended) of a couple of dumbass's and the only one i fell sorry for is the child that was result of it. Would hope it's put up for adoption and well way from them. Personally i was not a child at 15 as i left school a couple of months after reaching that age and started working for a living. Had a brain and knew how to use it . Would i have succumbed to her advances . More than likely yes . Would i have believed her cannot get pregnant from some condition i had never heard off. Not a chance. New protection was for thigs other than preventing pregnancy.
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Bit on the dumb side believing the i can't get pregnant crap . His parents are paying the price as i believe they are taking care of the child
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@CarlaaBL-z1n Maybe not all . Would give Brittany Zamora parole as the guy who was supposedly ruined for life is now married with a child and Jennifer Fichter who got 22 years because of the religious bias of the judge
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There are other reasons for using protection than preventing pregnancy and the idiot should have known that . Just because she said she could not get pregnant he had to believe . Not that dumb in my teens
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@ZeeKansiime The baby yes but these guys knew exactly what they were doing and stupid enough not to use protection hence no sympathy from me .
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@ZeeKansiime Should should have known better that's true but at 15/16 i sure as heck was no child
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@ZeeKansiime Depends on the individual . Left school Easter after i turned 15 and by the end of the year was working for a living , smoking, drinking in pubs, in bookie shops gambling on the horses, no longer a virgin thanks to an encounter with an older lady . 100% no longer a child and thankfully had parents who could see that.
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Zamora's 5'4 and 132lbs . Average for a 13 y.o male 5'1 and 102 lbs . May not have been much physical difference between them . Not really an excuse for her actions though
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Tell him all about the word no and how to use it if a teacher starts making advances to him and you will be able to avoid that.
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Would have given her house arrest and she could get a job working from home and take care of the child . Save the tax payer some money and they are going to let people out of jail early that have done worse things than her because jails are full
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Probably an appeal in the works so not going to make the student good
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Adoption best thing for this unfortunate child
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They seem ok
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Knew exactly what they were doing but as is normally the case with the youth of today all fine when things are going well but crumble when the going gets tough .
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