Comments by "LRRPFco52" (@LRRPFco52) on "Garand Thumb"
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@richarddick2937 I'm likely ahead of you on this by 40 years. I've seen and read most of what there is on Kazars, USS Liberty, Israeli terrorist acts against the British when they were a protectorate, history of the Balfour Declaration, post- Great War borders, Arab-Israeli Wars, dangling the MiG-21 carrot to get the F-4E FMS, influence of US Policy via blackmail, subterfuge, espionage, etc.
It pales in comparison to what the Brits have done, but very few people are informed on that.
Either way, this isn't the place for it as I'm more focused on systems integration relative to the actual video.
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I spent many years from 2005-2016 doing a lot of multi-day high volume courses in Finland, often with mixed attendance of AKs, Rks, and ARs, the occasional FNC, a Bushmaster ACR, shorty AKs from Arsenal, and a franken-74.
During winter conditions in either Arctic or sub-arctic locations, it was usually -25° to -30°C (-13°F to -22° F).
Not once did I ever see any of the hundreds of weapons experience surface moisture freezing like that. We just never let the rifles get into that state.
Not once did any of the controls freeze-up that I can recall on any of the designs.
What did fail? Interestingly, there were more malfunctions with AK variants than ARs during firing. Mostly FTExtract followed by double feed. That was always with Russian garbage steel case ammo.
The Finnish military brass-cased ammo is of a quality similar to German and Swiss ammo. I've never seen an Rk92 or Rk95 malfunction, but they were typically fed brass-cased Finnish ammo.
The AKs that malf'd were usually Arsenal out of Bulgaria.
Polymers broke, especially my early gen MIAD grip and the toe of an aftermarket M4 waffle stock.
One of the most reliable configurations was 11.5" AR set up as close to a TDP build as possible.
The Finns kept very detailed records over the years of what types of malfunctions they experienced. They said AKs were about as reliable as low quality imitation AR-15s, namely Bushampsters.
Rk62, Rk92, and Rk95 had the highest reliability, followed by TDP-compliant AR-15s. Then AKs and Bushampster AR-15s.
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@gordonjohnson405 I was in I Corps LRS at Lewis, F Co 52nd Infantry, after I DROS’d from 1-506th Inf Scouts in Korea on the DMZ. The only malfunctions I have seen with M14s were mainly from sand getting in them. Sand will shut an M14 down quick, and it’s very east to get in the action and magazine. We had a lot of M14s in my first unit in VA, and M21s with broken ART II scopes in the H Co Arms room (not HHC, but H Co) for our Recon Platoon.
In Korea, we had brand new-in-plastic National Match M14s. We cut them open to start using as Sniper Support rifles alongside the M24s.
I spent a lot of time with an M14 in some flavor, not including all the Match rifles I’ve shot on the civvy side. It’s funny because I always liked the M14, but have never invested in one, even though I always thought I would own one. Have owned 6 AR-10s and unknown number of AR-15s.
I like the Dutch AR-10s (if limiting to that time frame) much better than the M14. If you haven’t shot one, you would be astonished at how accurate and well-balanced they are.
M14 was Ordnance Board’s last hoorah, where they proved that they were no longer relevant in the firearms design business.
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@HanSolo__ .30 caliber nazis in Army ordnance board in the 1950s, MacArthur back in the 1930s, etc. .276 Pedersen (was actually a .284/7mm) had been officially adopted as the US Army’s new service rifle cartridge for the Garand in the 1930s, with a 10rd en block clip and a lighter, handier rifle.
It was more of a Goldilocks of its era, allowing the soldier to carry a lighter load or more ammo, lighter recoiling rifle, easier to train on, easier to hit with, more rounds per clip.
A mid-sized AR-15/AR-10 chambered in an intermediate cartridge with a 6.35-7mm bore would have been more ideal in the 1950s, as we rehashed the same lessons-learned from The Great War when going over the mass AARs from WWII. They wanted lighter rifles, lighter recoil, more ammo capacity in the magazine, but still with plenty of downrange energy.
Instead, they crammed .30 Cal M2 Rifle (.30-06) into a shorter case run at higher pressure in hopes to replace .45 ACP M1 Thompson, .45 ACP grease Gun, M1 Carbine, M1 Garand, BAR, and M1919 with 2 new weapons, the M14 rifle and M60 machine-gun. They seem to have totally ignored the advantages of the Stg44, PPSh-41, and cartridge developments in Europe.
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@justinbiggs7729 The biggest challenge for thin polymer components are in extreme cold conditions. I’ve had early MIAD grips crumble and crack on me shooting high-volume suppressed in -30˚C conditions in the Arctic, back when they were using a conical screw for the grip. They later worked on the polymer formula and went with a flat faced grip screw to correct that design flaw.
In an extreme cold, dry climate in the mountains, dropping the SCAR on the stock would be a prime mechanism of failure to consider, since polymer relies on a small % of water for its durability.
For a competent military contract, a rifle should be subjected to the arctic testing lab, along with ice, sand, and dust immersion. There are NATO standards for all of this.
If all the SCAR is for a consumer is a cool weapon to own and shoot in temperate conditions on clean ranges, with some minimal field exposure, then they should have no problems with them.
I personally have questions about the durability in extreme cold.
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You don't want to issue out 7.62 NATO to First Sergeants, Company Commanders, Platoon Leaders, Combat Medics, RTOs, Commo, NBC, Grenadiers, SAW gunners, FOs, AGs, ABs, Weapons Squad Leaders, Javelin Gunners, K-9 Handlers, Drone Operators, Combat Engineers, Mortarmen, etc.
I would argue it's a bad cartridge for anyone in an assault element as well, which is often your lead Squads.
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