Comments by "LRRPFco52" (@LRRPFco52) on "HistoryLegends"
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@kabzaify " The West simply does not have the means to compete in mass production."
Have you ever done a resource analysis of the US before? The US is the most rich natural resource piece of real estate in the world. No other country even comes close to the connected river network of the United States, its vast mining industry, and The industrial base that sprang up from its resources. The US also has the largest arable farmland of the entire planet. There is no close competitor.
When you look at the Fleet of fighters, air to air missiles, ballistic missiles, surface-to air missiles, drones, satellites, ships, super carriers, amphibious carriers, submarines, Precision-guided artillery, Anti-submarine warfare platforms, Redundant net centric systems, Attack helicopters, Strategic bombers, there simply is no other comparison.
Russians have a hard time digesting this because they are taught from day one that Russia is the biggest the best. Russia has been a middle power at the most since 1991.
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@JohnSmith-pu3zv I'm talking about force structure leveraging with technology. It would be absolutely stupid to do a World War 2 style industrial military production base.
The US was and is the smartest, most efficient military industrial power post-WWII, that still maintained mass production capacity with redundancies and managed stockpiles.
This includes rocket motor propellant production, explosive production, guidance systems, structures, control surfaces, material science, RDT&E, and live fire testing just talking about munitions.
One of the most important things we did leveraging the unguided legacy air-to-ground and artillery munitions stockpiles was develop JDAM & Copperhead kits for them.
We also developed new explosive compounds that make the 285lb SDB glide bombs have the same brissance as a 500lb Mk.82 or GBU-12.
An F-35 can carry 8x SDBs inside its weapons bays, and fly inside the MEZ.
That's force leveraging across the industrial base, as well as the practical realities of munitions storage and separation in a tactical setting.
People who don't have any experience with this stuff read silly comments on Twitter and are totally outside of their element, thinking they understand technology and novel concepts.
What they don't realize is the military advanced research community is usually 10 to 30 years ahead of them.
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@JohnSmith-pu3zv The US didn't outsource its fundamental manufacturing. We outsourced cheap product manufacturing to countries that have low skills. Now we're relocating those facilities from stupid people like the CCP, to more friendly nations.
The math simply doesn't add up when you realize the US is the 2nd biggest exporter in the world, but only 15% of our economy is exports. Domestic consumption of high value-added products and services is unparalleled and inherently native.
All of our exports are very high value-added products and services. Think Foreign Military Sales, petrochemical (refined petroleum products), automotive, gas turbine engines, computers, electronics, programming, telecom, food, management, finances, oil exploration & drilling services (US is one of 2 nations that can do permafrost drilling), ship-building, airline manufacturing, heavy industries, etc.
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@TheRanger1302 They have been under tight cost controls for the JSF program all along. I don’t know how they keep them so low when you look at all the major subsystems and advanced technology integrated into everything.
The structures alone are extremely hard to do, because there’s a lot of RAS built into it. That stuff has to be sourced, assembled, and tested to extremely-high standards. All parts have to be Berry Amendment compliant or from allied nations with tight controls.
The F135 engine is the most powerful, most reliable fighter engine ever made, and it has stealth features integrated into it in both RF and IR spectrums.
The AESA Radar is a step up even from the F-22A’s APG-77, and most people will never know what the APG-77 was even capable of in its initial form.
F-35 also has all its EW and FLIR/IR sensors and antennae built into the airframe, whereas other fighters need these things bolted-on with pods after the fact. A basic FLIR pod costs well over $1million, for example. ECM pods are also extremely expensive, but costs are never disclosed.
So when you see unit flyaway costs for legacy fighters, that isn’t in a combat configuration. When you configure, the costs go way up.
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@TheRanger1302 We created such a brutal combined arms force structure that ends FSCO or MDO type wars quickly, however, we have insane amounts of war stock and the largest production base for munitions, advanced weapons, and aircraft of all types. We make drone space shuttles, high altitude stealth spy planes, mid-altitude UAVs, low-altitude smaller UAVs, drone ships, and underwater RPVs.
We have roughly 3000 fighters in service, 140 strategic bombers with a new one soon entering the fleet (B-21A), and enough munitions for all of these air power assets to erase any threat air force on the planet.
That doesn’t include all the air power of our allies in Europe, the Pacific, and other nations, who leverage the force structure regionally.
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@timgealer I literally have been in aerospace & defense since the 1970s specific to this topic, and so have many members and generations of my family.
When you have networked fused sensor suites operating in a dispersed formation, they have a far superior picture of the battlespace because of sensor resolution and multiple aspects.
AWACS typically have range and altitude errors due to the antennae wavelengths, with a single position transmitter/receiver set. Their only real advantage nowadays is endurance.
When AWACS operators came on the net during the early days of F-22 and called out basic BRA contact, F-22 pilots responded with the exact number and type each contact was, and their exact altitudes within 100ft. This was over 20 years ago.
F-35s see way more than F-22s because they have multiple IR sensors fused with AESA and RF antennae, interleaved with each other.
The data fed to AWACS from 5th Gen is extremely useful for other fighters and bombers, but 5th Gen get almost nothing from AWACS.
When you have multiple vantage points, including other ISTAR nodes, the Su-57 with its huge weapons bay door gaps, cavities, and IRST show up in both RF and IR spectrums at pretty significant BVR.
Then it's a matter of erasing it off the kill chain list by whatever shooter is within WEZ parameters.
Last month, we delivered the 1080th F-35 by the way.
Su-57 doesn't even have its intended engines, the Izdeliye-30.
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