Comments by "craxd1" (@craxd1) on "Lotuseaters Dot Com"
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"Manners maketh man." That phrase has its origins from "the work of William Horman who was headmaster of Eton and then Winchester in the late 15th century. Winchester College still retains "manners makyth man" as its motto, as does New College, Oxford, both of which were founded by William of Wykeham, Bishop of Winchester, in the 14th century."
"The Vulgaria, a Latin textbook published in 1519, is considered the most important of Horman's surviving works. It is a collection of English phrases with their Latin translations with a strong leaning towards topics such as manners, religion and natural history. Vulgar is Latin for "common" or "pertaining to the common/ordinary people." Thus vulgaria essentially translates as "common things" or "everyday sayings", as such it's safe to assume that most if not all of the expressions in the book were in common use at the time."
Everyone could learn from this, today, especially the young, who shouldn't want to be seen as common vulgarians.
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One could argue that it has been tried with Robert Owen's New Lanark mill, which is what Engels loved. That was corporate control of everything concerning the worker, and it was a form of enslavement, because it made the worker completely dependent on the factory owner. If you didn't get along, or your output in labor wasn't enough, you could be booted out with nothing but the clothes on your back. You didn't own anything, except for the essentials, such as clothing, which was bought by company script, not government currency.
Sadly, this idea was taken up by the mining industry, for a time, which was what the first labor unions worked so hard to quash.
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The worst of it started three years before 1971, with Alexander King (scientist), in 1968, and the club that he and several others founded, after they gained a following of industrialists and “scientists” from MIT to tout their line. Everything, including the EMF, grew from that. Even the creation of the EU revolves around what was later created over the OEEC and OECD, where King was the Director-General of Scientific Affairs. All of it, CC and sustainability, was a product of King and his minions.
"In 1957, King joined the European Productivity Agency (EPA) as Director in Paris, subsequently becoming Director-General for Scientific Affairs at the OECD. At the OECD, "he initiated the Science Policy Surveys, which took a critical look at the state of science and technology in the OECD countries. Among other things, his initiatives encouraged new forms of education." He retired from the OECD in 1974, taking up the chairmanship of the International Federation of Institutes of Advanced Studies (IFIAS), an organisation based in Stockholm."
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The reason that Sumer is important, is that it is the origin of what became the three monotheisms and their religious myths. Ur was supposedly the home of Abraham. However, just southwest of there is Eridu, which is said to be the origin of the myth of Eden, with Adam (Adapa), and the flood story with Noah (Ziusudra). Some of Sargon's tales, later on, can be matched to Moses as well.
South of there, at Dilmun, or Telmun, was where the myth of Eve supposedly originated.
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The Pontic–Caspian steppe was where the Scythians originated, where the horse was first domesticated, and the wheel invented. The Bible mentions them as Gog from Magog, and the Hebrews called them God's Whip. It was said that the Egyptians feared them enough to quickly pay them off in gold when they showed up. It was also said that the most ancient tribes, from the steppe, were absorbed by the Scythians later on.
One can also find their origins mentioned in the tale about the Cyclops and Polyphemus: "the Celts (Galati in Latin, Γάλλοi in Greek) were descended from their son Galatos, while Appian credited them with three children, Celtus, Illyrius and Galas, from whom descend the Celts, the Illyrians, and the Gauls respectively." They spread west and conquered.
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Many ancient people, the leaders of their tribes, later, became known as gods, along with natural phenomenon. The ancient king's list, from Sumer, is where Adapa (Adam), from Eridu, was listed as one of the founding seven sages, and one of the early kings, who they also deified. He became the father of us all, in myth.
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That was what Jefferson wanted, but it's nowhere within the Constitution. He was a deist, and he knew that the Federalists were religious, with some still beholding to the crown. He also knew that the new gov was set up like Britain's, where they wanted to make Washington a monarch, at first, and entomb him in the basement of the capital building. They even designed the capital building after St Paul's Cathedral in London, and when they were revived under the Whigs, they built the Washington Monument, an obelisk, which all religious buildings have close to them, such as this or a tall column. The monument, in this case, is straight down the Mall, and is almost in line with the WH as well. It has to do with the divine right of kings in the Federalist's view.
It's why Congress still has a chaplain, prayer, and why we swear an oath.
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How the people are duped into the Soviet or Nazi type of thinking is shown below, and it's sourced from MIT.
"The quote cited [below] does not appear in transcripts of the Nuremberg trials because although Goering spoke these words during the course of the proceedings, he did not offer them at his trial. His comments were made privately to Gustave Gilbert, a German-speaking intelligence officer and psychologist who was granted free access by the Allies to all the prisoners held in the Nuremberg jail. Gilbert kept a journal of his observations of the proceedings and his conversations with the prisoners, which he later published in the book Nuremberg Diary . The quote offered [below] was part of a conversation Gilbert held with a dejected Hermann Goering in his cell on the evening of 18 April 1946, as the trials were halted for a three-day Easter recess:
"Sweating in his cell in the evening, Goering was defensive and deflated and not very happy over the turn the trial was taking. He said that he had no control over the actions or the defense of the others, and that he had never been anti-Semitic himself, had not believed these atrocities, and that several Jews had offered to testify in his behalf. If [Hans] Frank [Governor-General of occupied Poland] had known about atrocities in 1943, he should have come to him and he would have tried to do something about it. He might not have had enough power to change things in 1943, but if somebody had come to him in 1941 or 1942 he could have forced a showdown. (I still did not have the desire at this point to tell him what [SS General Otto] Ohlendorf had said to this: that Goering had been written off as an effective "moderating" influence, because of his drug addiction and corruption.) I pointed out that with his "temperamental utterances," such as preferring the killing of 200 Jews to the destruction of property, he had hardly set himself up as champion of minority rights. Goering protested that too much weight was being put on these temperamental utterances. Furthermore, he made it clear that he was not defending or glorifying Hitler.
"Later in the conversation, Gilbert recorded Goering's observations that the common people can always be manipulated into supporting and fighting wars by their political leaders:
"We got around to the subject of war again and I said that, contrary to his attitude, I did not think that the common people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war and destruction.
"'Why, of course, the people don't want war,' Goering shrugged. 'Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.'
"'There is one difference,' I pointed out. 'In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.'
"'Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.'"
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@GodwynDi From when the Constitution was first penned, it was understood by the Federalists, around 1812, that the states could leave the union. That idea lasted until it was getting close to secession in the south, and a war breaking out. It's much like the talk of Texas leaving, today.
“The Constitution does not directly mention secession. The legality of secession was hotly debated in the 19th century. Although the Federalist Party briefly explored New England secession during the War of 1812, secession became associated with Southern states as the North's industrial power increased.”
It's what's called the compact theory, which the Supreme Court said is illegitimate and rejected, because, according to the Constitution, the sovereign is the people, not the states. That is still hotly debated. If the people of those states voted to leave, well...
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