Comments by "Xyz Same" (@xyzsame4081) on "Wendover Productions" channel.

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  11.  @rb3425  A lot of fear mongering about the productivity of an ageing society is going on - on behest of the neoliberal order and the oligarchs that NOW get most of the productivity wins - very much opposed to how it used to be in the Golden Era (in Europe: the Economic Miracle). Till the 1970s, the 70s oil price spikes were disruptive for the economies world wide. Neoliberalism hit Europe with delay in the mid to late 1990s. But it was earlier and worse in the U.K. and U.S. It is no coincidence that this was when the Soviet Union collapsed. Sure in the 1970s the ratio of employed people supporting the retired was different (the post war baby boomer before females could control their fertility. Condomes were around for much longer, but it was the pill that was the game changer - and the option to end unwanted pregnancies with legal and safe abortions). Does not matter though if you look how politicians made sure that labor would not become scarce and the post WW2 scenarios would manifest again: The workforce having negotiating power.  But you also have to look at the gains of productivity since then when families had many more children than now and had the earlier (gee I wonder why people doften draw the linea t 2 and have them later in life. Couldn't have to do with economic and professional demands and realities !) Sure fewer folks with a paid job will have to provide for more retired - but you have to look at how productive they are compared to the 1970s before the "pill drop" in demographics became apparent. People live longer, they go longer to school, and modern medicine is highly effective but also costs more than in the 1970s. etc. On the other hand there are things to counteract the higher costs. Not only the productivity wins. we had many years of peace and one generation inherits property form the generation before (they do not have to start at 1950s levels, they can build. On personal property and society as a whole. For instance infrastructure, but also the technology that was developed and is now avaialbele (with or without patents still valid). All the medications where the patents have expired. Sure there may be new ones that are even more effective, but he old ones are not bad either. In the 1950s and 1960s they just got the vaccinations for measles, polio, etc. Wealth accumulates although that is not evenly distributed. That too should help a society to take care of the little ones and the elderly.
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  16. What rubbish: the mythical market forces will NOT solve that. Cleaning up after yourself instead of leaving a mess is ALWAYS more of a hassle / cost. And putting the burden of costs / work / avoidance on the consumers ? Who are at the END of a process and have NO say, so they de facto end up with hardly any choices of what to buy. Shopping would become super complicated, time consuming and also more expensive. Companies that are held accountable financially for their WASTEFUL packaging choice (a lot has to do with the whims of marketing) would just put the extra costs on the product prices, they would not try to avoid waste or be more sustainable. They must be forced to be responsible (And consumers tried to push them, that ended with a fake solution for decades). hey also would add the costs on paint or gas for lead damage, buying their way out (not really - they just pass on costs, it is not like they would bring a sacrifice for pollution related costs, and would accept lower profits). doing harmful things and just increasing the price to buy their way out - that is not how it works. Lead in paint has been banned for instance.  We know that "consumer should make choices that nudge companies to be ethical"' does not work. It has never worked in the past. The companies do their best to circumvent, lie and spin a narrative even if they are called out. Clean Clothes and Fair Trade campaigns have been going on for decades and not much has changed, not for the mass of goods that are sold. The ethical and responsible solutions should be DEFAULT not something that consumers have to work hard for (with paying attention - and on 1000 other things, where biz also cannot be bothered, or with paying more money. There is only so much time and attention that consumers can and will invest because the lawmakers cannot be bothered to make the industries do the right thing). Not every citizen cares about the enviromentment and we should not depend on that. As we also do not depend on the masses being responsible (and aware !) regarding other things. The military draft for Vietnam was NOT voluntay, they locked people up for refusing to go to war. Paying taxes is also not voluntary. We also do not leave it to the goodwill of reasoable people if they will respect red traffic lights and we demand that people can't drive when they are not sober. That is enforced, monitored and there are fines and consequences for non-compliance - so by and large most people don't do it. Not voluntarily or because they are so attentive, enlightened and out of the goodness of their heart - but because society chose to settle that with REGULATIONS and set a NORM, a default for all members of society. THAT is effective. Putting the burden on consumers is ludicrous and is ineffective.
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  17. No, recycling " must not be profitable" but someone has to pay for it. The companies that chose to use a certain packaging will have to add the costs and pay for the processing when the consumers turn in the waste - (in Europe manufacturers or retailers have to declare what they use, and they have to pay into funds). in other words sales prices overall will go up. the industry will still not try to save material but will splurge for marketing reasons - and just pass on the costs. They tried the recyling ruse as a a PR gag because many consumers decades ago were willing to be responsible - even though businesses (as collective engaged in a race to the bottom regarding standards) are not responsible. At all. So they must be FORCED to be reasonable and responsible. They will clearly never voluntarily act in a responsible manner, but always cut corners, pollute and put profits / convenience over enviroment or health of humans.  It is no tlike the consumers have any choice or say what companies decide to use as packaging. The effort to demand more sustainable handling in general was undermined by the industries. They could have solved that in the last 25 years, but they just could not be bothered. (If sustainable packaing costs more - so be it then ALL industries will have to add those costs). The marketers usually decide a lot (and demand unnecessary packaging) and the rest is production (and what the machines that they chose to order, can handle). Shifting the burden to the consumers is wrong, because it is de facto almost impossible to avoid the packaging (unless people live on a farm and produce their food or barter. or if they are super conscious and only shop farmer's market. But that is only possible for a slim minority AND is more expensive. So being responsible is not default it is something consumers are punished for by having to pay considerably more for products that are ALSO sustainable regarding packaging. Or are at least better). We all shop in retail, growing food or bartering is not how we organize our society for millions of people.
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