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Russia attacked Ukraine because Ukraine wanted to join NATO, and Russia believes that NATO poses a danger to it. Russia has the right to consider NATO a threat and to be concerned about this threat - the same Americans in 1962, when the USSR placed missiles in Cuba, were also scared, so much so that sanctions are still being imposed against Cuba for no clear reason. And there was also a military operation of American troops in the Bay of Pigs. In 2003, America invaded Iraq because the Americans were afraid that Iraq might develop nuclear weapons. In 2000, the Americans deployed nuclear weapons in Poland and Romania. The German Foreign Minister assured Gorbachev in 1989 that there would be no expansion of NATO. And in 1997 and 2004 it happened. Ukraine and Georgia are certainly independent states. But you cannot ensure your own safety by sacrificing the safety of your neighbor. The USSR collapsed in 1991. And NATO existed in 2007 - 16 years after the collapse of the USSR. In 2007, Russia had not yet attacked Georgia. In 2007, Russia had not yet annexed Crimea or invaded Ukraine. So why did NATO exist in 2007? Why did the Americans place nuclear weapons in Poland? Russia would never have attacked Ukraine if Ukraine had not tried to join NATO. Ukrainian society has historically been located in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and Austria, and therefore Ukrainians as a nation have grown freedom-loving. Ukrainian society has always, since the 19th century, been split into Westerners who wanted Ukraine's integration into Europe, and Slavophiles. In 2014, a liberal revolution took place in Ukraine, the pro-Russian government was overthrown, and liberals came to power who wanted Ukraine to join NATO. That's why the war started, because Russia considers NATO a threat to its borders. Russia had very good relations with Ukraine until 2014, and Russia would never have attacked Ukraine if it had not tried to join NATO. Ukrainian politicians are no less to blame than Putin
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Russia attacked Ukraine because Ukraine wanted to join NATO, and Russia believes that NATO poses a danger to it. Russia has the right to consider NATO a threat and to be concerned about this threat - the same Americans in 1962, when the USSR placed missiles in Cuba, were also scared, so much so that sanctions are still being imposed against Cuba for no clear reason. And there was also a military operation of American troops in the Bay of Pigs. In 2003, America invaded Iraq because the Americans were afraid that Iraq might develop nuclear weapons. In 2000, the Americans deployed nuclear weapons in Poland and Romania. The German Foreign Minister assured Gorbachev in 1989 that there would be no expansion of NATO. And in 1997 and 2004 it happened. Ukraine and Georgia are certainly independent states. But you cannot ensure your own safety by sacrificing the safety of your neighbor. The USSR collapsed in 1991. And NATO existed in 2007 - 16 years after the collapse of the USSR. In 2007, Russia had not yet attacked Georgia. In 2007, Russia had not yet annexed Crimea or invaded Ukraine. So why did NATO exist in 2007? Why did the Americans place nuclear weapons in Poland? Russia would never have attacked Ukraine if Ukraine had not tried to join NATO. Ukrainian society has historically been located in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and Austria, and therefore Ukrainians as a nation have grown freedom-loving. Ukrainian society has always, since the 19th century, been split into Westerners who wanted Ukraine's integration into Europe, and Slavophiles. In 2014, a liberal revolution took place in Ukraine, the pro-Russian government was overthrown, and liberals came to power who wanted Ukraine to join NATO. That's why the war started, because Russia considers NATO a threat to its borders. Russia had very good relations with Ukraine until 2014, and Russia would never have attacked Ukraine if it had not tried to join NATO. Ukrainian politicians are no less to blame than Putin
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@thornelderfin Crimea wasn't part of Kievan Rus - it was controlled by nomads from Asia, so called Pechenegs, later Crimean Tatars. Kievan Rus conquerred and captured only small part of Crimea in the 10th century - the city of Kherch.
Kievan Rus is an ancestor of both Ukraine, Russia and Belarus. Moscow didn't existed when Kiev was a capital of Rus, but Moscow was built in the 13th century on the land of Vladimir-Suzdal principality, that was part of Kievan Rus.
Also, Kiev became the capital of Rus after the unification of Rus in 882. The unification of Rus happened after the Novgorod principality (territory of modern Russia) conqueerred Kiev in 882. Later the prince of Novgorod betrayed his nobles and proclaimed himself the prince of Kiev. And later Kiev principality captured the Novgorod. Only after this Kiev became capital. Russian city of Novgorod is older than Ukrainian city of Kiev. So, Russia have the same right to be a successor of Kievan Rus, as Ukraine. And if we would count Russia as an successor of Kievan Rus, Russia have rights to all Belorussian and Ukrainian territories, according to your logic about Crimea (You said that Crimea must be Ukrainian because it was a part of Kievan Rus, but why do you think that Ukraine is successor of Kievan Rus?)
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Russia attacked Ukraine because Ukraine wanted to join NATO, and Russia believes that NATO poses a danger to it. Russia has the right to consider NATO a threat and to be concerned about this threat - the same Americans in 1962, when the USSR placed missiles in Cuba, were also scared, so much so that sanctions are still being imposed against Cuba for no clear reason. And there was also a military operation of American troops in the Bay of Pigs. In 2003, America invaded Iraq because the Americans were afraid that Iraq might develop nuclear weapons. In 2000, the Americans deployed nuclear weapons in Poland and Romania. The German Foreign Minister assured Gorbachev in 1989 that there would be no expansion of NATO. And in 1997 and 2004 it happened. Ukraine and Georgia are certainly independent states. But you cannot ensure your own safety by sacrificing the safety of your neighbor. The USSR collapsed in 1991. And NATO existed in 2007 - 16 years after the collapse of the USSR. In 2007, Russia had not yet attacked Georgia. In 2007, Russia had not yet annexed Crimea or invaded Ukraine. So why did NATO exist in 2007? Why did the Americans place nuclear weapons in Poland? Russia would never have attacked Ukraine if Ukraine had not tried to join NATO. Ukrainian society has historically been located in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and Austria, and therefore Ukrainians as a nation have grown freedom-loving. Ukrainian society has always, since the 19th century, been split into Westerners who wanted Ukraine's integration into Europe, and Slavophiles. In 2014, a liberal revolution took place in Ukraine, the pro-Russian government was overthrown, and liberals came to power who wanted Ukraine to join NATO. That's why the war started, because Russia considers NATO a threat to its borders. Russia had very good relations with Ukraine until 2014, and Russia would never have attacked Ukraine if it had not tried to join NATO. Ukrainian politicians are no less to blame than Putin
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