Comments by "Adam Bainbridge" (@AdamMGTF) on "Drachinifel" channel.

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  30. I see your logic in the benefit of hoping to over run France with the 1918 offensive. But it would still have failed. A interesting thought is this. Knowing the successes at tannenberg and in the east in general. What if the west was not supposed to be the first area the Germans won? In other words. If you persuade the general staff to attack in the west with a plan to establish trench ware fare on french soil. And ASAP release divisions after the race to the sea to the east. You make sure no atrocities are committed - world option is important. You do not attack in the west. Other than small scale things to keep the enemy off balance. You win in the east. Either through Russian revolution as it happened or because it happened sooner thanks to greater defeats. You could then use the spare man power to help the ottomans push for the Suez Canal. All the while your stopping AH form ever listening to hosendorf and your making them defend only against the Italians. The whole time you do not shell Scarborough and Hartlepool. You don’t carry out zeppelin raids on cities and you don’t instigate gas warefare but make sure your own side has masks. Why all this? You approach the allies by constantly saying “we didn’t want this war. We were all dragged into it. Let’s return to status quo ante bellum along the french/lux/bel border and agree to demilitarisation In Alsase lorrain with a possible plebiscite in 10 years time (this may be more acceptable to the reichstag) The British have this situation then: The Germans have avoided aggression since defensive warefare started. BUT losses have been horrific when the British attacked. Same for the french. The Germans acted with honour and seem to manage world option in their favour or at aleaat in nutrality. They just want the war over and the uk/french people want this too. Especially as they can hardly be told the Hun are war criminals. All the while, french soil is occupied, Belgium over run and the British have to worry about loosing the Suez Canal. And the two “sick men of Europe” are holding strong and have conquered Serbia (great loss on both sides) but you use your future knowledge to get Aus to play nice in negotions. Net result. Peace without horror seen in reality. Germany and AH gain massively in the east. Poland may be created as a puppet satellite of the CP. the ottomans gain more land around the Black Sea. The British keep Suez and gain some German colonial possessions. The french get their land back, gain a buffer to the Germans and hope of peace for a decade and maybe Germany throws them a African colony. A good trade for huge tracks of the east of Europe. Italy gets sod all as usual The Austrians get a chunk of Serbia but the Serbians still have a small state and AH get parts of Russia. I’d say that’s doable with small changes to the timeline and access to the heads of state in the central powers. And it’s definitely plausible. Either way. It won’t stop a Ww2. Just change the lineup
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  36. @28:00 a bit (OK a lot) of additional info which is really worth thinking about. (sources at end) At the time the Germans were well behind on payments they owed the Soviets for food and raw materials. The German economy had been built on a foundation of sand. They'd pulled off their 'economic miracle'. But the economy was fundamentally weak and they had little in the way of hard capital to buy things on the world market. So basically they really had sod all else to pay the Soviets with. Add to this that they were well aware of the fact that they were now seriously dependent on the soviets as the blockade was in force*. And there was little option but to give the soviets the ship. That's the main economic factor. The other often overlooked# factor, were in diplomacy and geopolitics. At this time and shortly before. There were huge efforts from the allies to fix Russia into an alliance. That had narrowly been avoided due to ribbintrop/molotov pact and the criminal- laxidasical attitude of the allies in getting the Russians on side (sending their envoy via SHIP! Not aircraft or even train, at a time when days mattered, they sent an envoy via ship via the Arctic circle for god sake... Sigh). Because of this, stalin knew he was in a strong position to get as much as he could out of Germany (German accounts all note how shrewd a negotiatiator he was). AND the Germans knew they were at the mercy of stalin in many ways and Ribbintrop had orders from Hitler to really lay it on thick (there was a bit of a feeling of "we have to make up for all the anti communist stuff")... So when there was a chance to give the Russians a half completed ship instead of hard gold. They jumped at the chance. Not paying at all wasn't an option. Germany needed russian raw materials and they REALLY needed to keep Russia happy so that they didn't join the allies. To emphasise how important this was to Hitler. He even condemned Finland and withdrew support for them in the winter war. In spite of a huge backlash domestically for doing so. In every way. Keeping Russia on side in 39-40 was worth one half finished cruiser. If pushed I think they would have given up the whole class. So for the patron who asked the question and mentioned Germany surely wanting ships... The answer is yes. You'd be right if your only thinking militarily. But considering everything. There were more important things happening. History isn't about weapons it's about people after all. *(Hitler for all his faults when it came to learning lessons from history... was well aware of what this did in ww1. He was obsessed with not loosing the 'home front' which meant keeping the people (and industry) fed. # especially among people who think of historic stratagem in terms of computer games lol Main sources: W. SHIERER (obviously), some Kershaw and Hastings
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