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@digitaal_boog you know in most of the world, home defence means remembering to lock your door at night
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@Redbird1504 country? Can't do it. But vast areas of countries. Yes absolutely. I live in a very large town. I'd happily walk the streets at midnight with a month's wages in my pocket and nothing but the clothes on my back. A home invasion outside of the biggest cities is so rare it makes national news. In my home I have items of significant personal and monetary value (inherited coins as an example). I have never once thought I should lock my door during the day. As a side note. I own 2 fire arms for sport (why I enjoy forgotten weapons). They aren't kept in my house, infact they aren't even in my home town 😂. It's inconceivable that I would need such a thing to keep me or my family safe. After all. I lock my door on a night when I go to sleep. What more could I possibly need? If you live in a dangerous place, then I am sorry for that. But it doesn't make my point ridiculous at all.
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@Redbird1504 well in civilised countries. You don't normally have to worry about people with weapons attacking your home. That's what the rule of law is for 😁
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@bmxriderforlife1234 your not wrong. But remember that Hitler WANTED the competing companies/bureaucracy/party sects. It was fundamental to maintaining his power (and generally is for dictators). It wasn't an accident that they had half a dozen intelligence services that were all loyal to different people and who didn't work together. Same was true for weapon development. As for the Gustav guns. You have to consider them from the point of view of Hitler the political animal. They existed for much the same reason as the v1/v2. The propaganda value of having them was more important than any effect they had on the course of any battles. Both are great examples of why the Nazi system was ultimately its own worse enemy. In a liberal democracy and capitalist economy, such waste was culled through a Darwinian process. The weak would perish. Where as Hitler wanted lots of weak people and groups who couldn't challenge him. Worked great in the Weimar Republic to help him win power. Didn't help when he tried to play general.
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@off6848 here in the UK.... Anyone really. I mean it's not going to be a career. You'd have no job security. All that results in the usual problems of low investment in equipment. Poor work hours and or pay. Hardly inspires the work force. I mean if you were paid badly and knew 100% that your job is going to disappear. What's the insentive to do a perfect job?
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You realise that steampunk is an application of last technology into a modern naritive? Steam punk looks like this. Not the other way around :)
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In fairness I'm sure there is a huge amount of information about Chinese firearms. As much as there is about colt or Vickers. It's just not in English.
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Wasn't it Einstein that said I don't know what weapons ww3 will be fought with. But ww4 will be fought with sticks and stones....
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@4:30 over 1.1km per second is amazing. The energy involved and the speed makes the footage of shooting it all the more impressive. Brilliant Thanks for including metric for us none Americans. It's much appreciated!
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I wish I understood this joke :(
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There has to be some irony there. I mean in that powers with an empire had to use older gun technology to try and subdue the natives.
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I doubt the allied soldiers would give a crap. I've read countless battlefield memories and mostly front line troops cared about how warm they were when they could sleeo. If the food was any good. When they'd get off the line. If their officers were arseholes. If they'd get picked for patrols. And generally complain about the little things (for understandable reasons). They were in awe of artillery and yet often shocked how many German shells were duds. They complained the rear echelons/ marines/air force/navy/other allies had it better than them. Loved their brothers and good officers if they had them. If the grunts on the other side had muskets or machine guns was only relevant to the time they were being shot at. After that the idea of "oh wow that's something different to the gun we have" is just not something front line troops give a shit about.
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One of the surprising things I've learnt from this channel is just how cheap guns are. I asked a random sample of.... Blokes at the pub 🙄. What they thought a pistol cost. The lowest price was £3000.00 which is probably close to five thousand USD. This thing is a bargain
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Have to disagree. At least outside the USA. The effort and expense that the royal navy and RAF put into makeing weapons smaller is amazing. The RN had been trying to make guns smaller for 500 years before this gun was designed.
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@anaphylastiks thankfully there isn't. I live in a lovely quiet town in North East England. I just looked it up. The last murder we had here was in 1989. It was a big deal. The only real crime we have is road based or petty theft (usually kids). 4/5 years ago we had a load of burglaries. But that turned out to be a crime group that was traveling to different parts of the UK and spending a week each place. My area is 3 towns which together have a population of 200,000
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Forgive a daft limy asking a silly question. Do American police really 'normally' carry rifles now? Sounds bloody scary.
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@YaBoiZackbannedmefordissent I'm sorry but I don't understand that? Possibly as I'm a bit old and don't use social media so memes are lost on me. My comment was not supposed to be derogatory. I visited the USA around 20 years ago and thoroughly enjoyed my visit (and the people)
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@DPham1 I think a lot of it is just down to history. I can understand the idea that if someone else has something in their pocket that can kill me by pressing a button (or trigger). Then I want one too. That I guess is much as you say.... Human nature. The difference here in the UK and I'd say most of the "western" world, is that there is almost zero chance that anyone around you has a kill button. Therefore it's not rational to want one yourself. Much in the way that a country with no real enemies, such as Switzerland or Iceland. Don't feel the need to have large armed forces and weapons of mass destruction. There is no "other guy" to be worried about. It's why I can see the argument both ways for people in the USA. You can't put the genie back in the bottle. Vast amounts of firearms are in the hands of the public. Sadly vast amounts are in the hands of criminals. They are easy to get (I say that relatively and understanding there are exceptions to the rule). So can the situation really be changed?... Not without overwhelming popular support. As a thought exercise..... It would be worrying to think what would actually happen if 95% of Americans say "we live in a republic. We don't want guns anywhere but in the hands of the armed forces and where needed, the police. Therefore we vote to have all firearms bought by the government and melted down and recycled." The question then is. What do the 5% do. Some, no doubt would agree that rule by popular consent is the best form of government (and one Americans are proud is very much a core part of 'America'.). They'd see it as the law like any other they don't like following (such as paying taxes) and comply. The scary thing would be the remaining people who can't rationalise the situation and believe they are outside of the law. Much like dealers of drugs know it's illigal to possess and sell drugs. But do so anyway. Given this 'group' have (by definition) weapons that are designed to make it as easy as possible to kill people. Then you have a situation which I am not sure has ever happened before in human history. Have small groups who's activity was legal had their activities made illigal. Sure. It happens rarely in democratic countries. But it does happen. For example, opium was legal to buy and take in the UK until the 20th century. But opium addicts and pharmacy owners couldnt use opium to fight the majority.... I just find it interesting. I can't see that situation ever coming to pass. But it's the sort of thing we used to talk about in college when I studied law. Your reply was also interesting. I haven't read that book. What's it about?
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I often think of this when you hear of things like Vickers guns being used in Afghanistan. Over a hundred year old design. I suppose it comes down to the fact that these things were designed to kill other humans and if they still do that then they are useful. Sure we have better guns now. But your just as dead if your hit in the head by a 100 year old machine gun as you are by a day old one! It's what often makes me wonder why on earth modern army's have to use the latest and greatest in wars like Afghanistan 10 years ago. I mean drop bombs from a b29 on the Taliban and they are just as dead as dropping bombs from a b2 🤣
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As an Englishman I did find Ian saying that freedom is a "Fundamental argument of gun control." To be something very odd. After finding this channel I've talked about guns with friends here in England. And the mention of "freedom" never comes up other than to agree we don't understand why Americans consider it part of the argument. I mean, I'm not free to grow opium in my greenhouse and sell it to addicts. I'm not free to purchase chemicals and build a bomb. I'm not free to cultivate anthrax. All thoes things kill people, the bomb being designed to kill. The anthrax is lethal and the opium will eventually kill and addict. That's how it is with guns here. They are just something that is supposed to kill and that we aren't allowed to own unless we have the correct permits, much like laboratory can cultivate anthrax for study. Or a pharmaceutical company can have opium to use as a base for making medicans. Ian is impressively unbias. I love that about him. But the argument of "freedom" just doesn't translate outside of the USA.
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As an Englishman I did find Ian saying that freedom is a "Fundamental argument of gun control." To be something very odd. After finding this channel I've talked about guns with friends here in England. And the mention of "freedom" never comes up other than to agree we don't understand why Americans consider it part of the argument. I mean, I'm not free to grow opium in my greenhouse and sell it to addicts. I'm not free to purchase chemicals and build a bomb. I'm not free to cultivate anthrax. All thoes things kill people, the bomb being designed to kill. The anthrax is lethal and the opium will eventually kill and addict. That's how it is with guns here. They are just something that is supposed to kill and that we aren't allowed to own unless we have the correct permits, much like laboratory can cultivate anthrax for study. Or a pharmaceutical company can have opium to use as a base for making medicans. Ian is impressively unbias. I love that about him. But the argument of "freedom" just doesn't translate outside of the USA.
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"...1911... Everyone familiar with...". Oh my no. Why I have begun watching this channel. I doubt I'll ever see a 1911 or any other handgun given that I live in England. But I do enjoy watch these videos!
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@nolanasd6092 hmm if only we could get politicians to decide matters by dualing with these things. I dare say that government efficiency would improve massively.
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In the UK we consider that a bonus 😅
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@Thaddeus2007 yourself.... Thanks for the education. As an Englishman I'd happily hold a gun with my finger through the guard and not think twice But this makes total sense. I remember going clay pigeon shooting years and years ago and the only lesson I remember was "don't point at anything you aren't happy to kill". So that is of course a sensible thing, it also explains the way forgotten weapons etal hold guns Safety first! Thank god sod all Englishman own guns. We'd not even know how to hold them 😂
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@oueou8293 I don't understand what you are on about. I'm sorry.
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@oueou8293 I don't speak Hebrew and to be honest I don't really have any interest in religious wars or the media's coverage of religious wars. I'd rather not waste my time. Thank you for replying though.
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Yup. And let's face it. No bugger else in England has a gun anyway so it's still more lethal as club than anything the other chap has. Cracking movie. I still ask my brother how long them teas will take to brew. He just adds 5 mins everytime I ask 🧐
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Isn't the point of Browning's guns that they are 'meh'. They work and are reliable without being another special. They are cheap and easy to make without being rough. They are unremarkable and that's what makes them great at what they do. So really. Wouldn't it be more odd that someone think a browning pistol is odd or outside the box
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Interesting that your not really into guns is so different to the fact that I am interested in guns and live in England and yet have only touched a gun once in my life and that was at a open day for our territorial army (like the us national guard). And I've probably only seen a gun in the UK 3 or 4 times. I'd love to be able to shoot at a range as a hobby. But I can't. That said I am glad that there is no such thing as gun crime where I live (as guns just don't exist, it would be like having crimes committed by warewolf)
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@far_away907 I was a cadet 15 years ago. In England and we didn't have real guns. The only opportunity to shoot a gun would be on an exercise day. We did get to fly though. Starting with gliders
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@ianholmquist8492 you have misunderstood. He wasn't a recruit. He was a cadet. In the UK cadets are aged 13-16. They can join army/navy/air force. My experience was it was more a way to give teenagers opportunities. Like going "on exercise" which was basically camping. To learn life skills and socialise. There was a military aspect to it. But that was more to teach respect. In no way would a 13 year old cadet be considered part of the armed forces. So this training tool doesn't make a joke of anything.
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Wouldn't the steam punk version of this be the grandson? After all. Steam punk is based on the era of steam. So anything that's "steam punk" by definition comes many years (decades/centuries) after.
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This is really interesting. But it's scary that there are places in America where you need a military auto rifle in your house or car to protect yourself. 😳
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@oldesertguy9616 and Patrick, thanks for your messages. Interesting, it's always fun to learn about other cultures. It's a big difference to here
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@Roddy556 I'd disagree if I was a police officer who lived somewhere where such things were needed. And I wouldn't like being a normal citizen in a place where the police needed to be so heavily armed. I suppose it's one of them things you don't think about if it's normal to you. But if police here were doing such a thing I imagine people would be either terrified the governments officials were (literally) enforcing a police state and would worry about freedom. Or if it was justified we'd probably expect that that means that anarchy has broken out or something. That's why I would find it scary. I wouldn't like to think that police needed weapons which I think of as something only carried by soldiers. Not sure if that makes sense. anyway.
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@Roddy556 I don't know any police here who carry rifles. I know some special units have semi automatic weapons. Mp5s or something that looks like them. But I believe only for guarding nuclear sites and political figures. My local police definitely don't have them. The idea of being a long way from help makes sense. Do the police in cities then? It's fascinating how different the two countries are.
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@Roddy556 London as I'm sure you'll agree if you've travelled England (much less the rest of the UK) is very different. Yes there are more armed officers. But they are very much in the minority of the force, and you'll generally only see them either around tourist areas or the seats of government. Which is a result of terrorism sadly. In England that's not London you'll not see a armed officer at all. Seeing a handgun on an officer is something that makes people stop and stare and it's a mega minority of officers. Seeing one with a carbine rifle I just can't imagine. Hell. If we need a specialist tactical armed forces we don't have anything like SWAT. We call the army who call the SAS 😂 (genuinely, the Iranian embassy in 1980 is probably the obvious example, others are hard to think of). Anyway, I wish my cousins in the USA and Canada who serve as police. And I hope they never need guns at all. Let alone rifles.
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@Roddy556 as a side note, I just had a quick look. 4% of police in the UK are allowed to carry a firearm (that's any kind of firearm). They are officers in charge of protecting nuclear power plants and nuclear sites in general, the police who protect politicians and the royal family and (sadly) a higher percentage of officers who serve in Belfast. The final small number are officers who protect airports (major ones I mean). So I suppose it would make sense that a tourist would think we have a lot more armed police here than we actually have.
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@oldesertguy9616 that's one of the best comments I've read on YouTube... I tend to ask odd questions on here because I don't use social media and that's the exact sort of story I love to read! I fully believe that was the case. I actually own two 1980s car myself (a ford escort and a nissan laurel). The laurel was considered a massive prestige car for its time. Both are tiny by modern standards and a good friend of mine (who happened to get me into shooting hence my love of forgotten weapons) owns an imported Lincoln which is from the early 90s. Is very very cool and very very VERY big. As in it's longer than our modern parking spaces today. Obviously that's a case of the types of roads we have. You should see some of the roads in France and Italy, no wonder they love even smaller cars there! Thanks for your reply. Not sure if your still an officer or have moved on. But I applaud your civic duty and I'm really glad for your comments (original one and the one I'm replying to). Merry Christmas from NE England.
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Oh heck. Do other countries really think we talk like that? Even assuming you mean English and not British. It's still scary thinking that's what people think we sound like 😅.
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@Shawn_the_Protogen thanks for the reply Shawn. But I'm still puzzled. So you carry all of them but it's how you carry them? Like it dictates what box you store them in? I promise I'm not stupid. It's just a foreign concept (literally) to me 🤔
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@Shawn_the_Protogen @Shawn_Wolf_2727 like given. Info on predaters does make sense. But I guess what is confusing for the likes of myself is that if I woke up at 3am and some carrier hardened criminal was in my house. I would never ever think (even in blind panic) that the said criminal would have a gun of some kind. I guess that's why it's difficult for none Americans*. Bad way of saying that...... But what I mean is that I could never imagine wanting to have a gun to kill a criminal who meant me harm; because he/she had a gun and wanted to kill me. *I definitely don't mean that as a sweeping statement. It's just that I've traveled around Europe, north Africa, the near East and far east and their laws and customs are similar to here in the UK. In that if you walked around with a gun then you would be imprisoned.... Obviously in the counties I've visited I'm talking about stable governments. Also. My visits to the USA (NY being my favourite) did allow me to see your police and armed forces carrying guns. This was a culture shock to me and my travelling companions. But we never thought the law enforcement officers hard to carry guns, because all the people around us had guns too.... My Mind blown You've really got me interested in this topic. My final paper at university was on domestic violence. I don't enjoy studying violence. But I do wonder.... The people you know Shawn and other commentators on this thread... Do you really walk around with a gun in your pocket?(sorry to keep asking, please understand that it is totally inconceivable in the UK). If you do. Why? And would you feel safer say here in England if you didn't have your gun? Thank you again @Shawn_Wolf_2727 this conversation has helped me learn so much! Best wishes. AB
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This is every comment on YT where someone thinks they have solved the military by suggesting a modular ship/afv/submarine that will use swappable parts or combine everything into one 😂
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Proof that something that tries to do everything does nothing very well
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@Kneon_Knight ok. But I don't live there. As a side note. Where I live carrying a gun of any kind around with you would get you a significant prison sentence. Which I dare say is why people don't carry guns.... Which means I don't need one. It's also illegal to have a knife larger than 100mm (I think) on your person or a baseball bat if the intention is to do anything other than play baseball. I'm sure our laws can't be applied to Ohio. Because there you could already buy guns readily, cheaply, legally and easily. Here you can't. So the bad man who wants to rob you probably has his fists or a bat and your best defence would be to run away. Assuming such a thing happened which is rare.
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@bcb5696 and I hope that's my point in a nutshell. We don't all live in the same place and applying ones own values to another who's circumstances are different is obviously folly. I hope your home country can become more secure so that the rule of law keeps you safe. Rather than being scared for your safety. I'm incredibly lucky I live in such a place and I know that.
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Given all the faff. I'd love to see how a "normal" version of this gun compares. I'm gonna search yt for such a thing now. But i can't be the only none American who thinks "I wish I understood all the 'obvious' stuff"
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I thought this was a joke but when he fired it was obvious that gun would easily kill the bad guy
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Anyone in England unfamiliar with guns wouldn't know what an ar15 looks like. I'm fairness. I enjoy Ian's videos so have seen lots of guns on YouTube and I still don't know what one looks like 😂. Time to see if Ian has a episode on AR15
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