Comments by "HaJo Os." (@hajoos.8360) on "Drachinifel"
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@TheNecromancer6666 this counts only for the crews and engineers. The social differences and behaviour between officers and crews were not helpful and the circumstances of comeradeship on board were better in WWII. The Germans were enforced to use their experiences, for example 2 aft turrets of Seydlitz out of action at the battle of the Doggerbank, because they were inferior. Admiral Beatty was too arrogant to use conclusions and consequences, because he commanded superiour forces. I do not share Drach's opinion about the biggest calibre is the best. The Germans had in WWI and II more rounds ammunition on board, because their shells were smaller. About speed you are right in the German planning. But in reality German battlecruisers were one or two knots faster than their british opponents. At the Doggerbank Blücher slowed the Germans down. Without Blücher we would not have seen the battle. It is a major mistake to put slow ships into the line of battle, as we have already seen in the battle of Tsushima, but the Germans repeated the mistake at the Doggerbank and Jutland. With a smaller and faster high seas fleet at Jutland Jellicoe would not have been able to cross the German T. The opposite is the case, it is probable that Scheer would have crossed the British T, before the Homefleet would have formed the line of battle. The would have meant a decisive victory for the Germans. At the battle of the Falklands Admiral Spee failed totally, Lütjens failed always, Kummetz failed at the Oslo Fjord, and Captain Langsdorff failed at the battle of River Plate. The Germans admiralty was miserable in tactics and strategics, and they promoted the wrong men. They decided politically, always a mistake. The German admiralty was not even able to calculate the correct fuel demand for their operations, unbelievable.
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@paoloviti6156 Dear Paolo ... Vittorio Veneto was not damaged by a 16-inch shell but by a swordfish-torpedo. The Italian air-force was too busy with it's duties in Greece, and the Luftwaffe-reconnaisance failed. The major aspect were the losses at the British air-raid on Taranto, where the half Italian fleet was set out of service. It was a strategic mistake, because Taranto is geographically too exposed. Something like Brindisi would have been better, but the Italian Naval High-Command, after the airraid on Taranto, shifted the fleet to La Spezia, Naples & Genua, where they were more or less useless. Another aspect was the miserable torpedo protection on Italian BBs (installed/constructed around 1935). Only one small swordfish-torpedo could effect severe damage on the BBs. Compare it with German BBs. When Scharnhorst was sunk at the North-Cape the Brits needed a minimum of 14 torpedo-hits to sink Scharnhorst, means Scharnhorst was better protected than Musashi or Yamato, which were hit by aerial-Torpedos and not as Scharnhorst by ship-torpedos. Scharnhorst's weak point was the armament above the main belt, where DoY could hit the propulsion room to slow down Scharnhorst's speed, in spite of the flat silhouette of Scharnhorst-class ships.
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@paoloviti6156 Italy is very young as a state or nation. So, the naval tradition is related to former sovereign cities, comparable to Germany as a federal patchwork rug & a part of the German I. Reich. So, except the brave Italian submarine-commanders, no one wanted to die for Italy, which was getting known during the Spanish civil war, when the Italian detachments to Spain were totally useless. Even Hitler made a mistake, when he sent troups (an entire army) with Rommel to Africa to support 20 or 22 Italian divisions against 3 British.... i am not so informed about the education in the Regina Marina, but in Germany, the Naval High-Command was influenced too much by politics. The braves were sent home, and the cowards & the dud shells were promoted. The Italians accepted, when the US Navy positioned the exile-mafiosi in the bow of their landing crafts in Sicily as the new order. The dream of an Italian Empire remained very shortly. But still better than the Brits, who still believe they have an empire as we can read every day on this channel.
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