Comments by "Sedna063" (@Sedna063) on "Binkov's Battlegrounds"
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Not true. But, however, NATO countries are better in warfare. Russia is still fighting a war based on attrition and mass mobilisation. NATO fights their wars intelligently, taking lessons learned from WW2 from both victors and loosers. NATO armies realised that the Wehrmacht had a lot of strong points and took those while addressing weaknesses and using some of their own war strenghts, such as logistics and information gathering.
This lead to an amalgation of fighting styles that have made NATO armies hard to beat. The technological superiority only adds to that. NATO countries enjoy a better doctrine. They spend far more on training specialists, they incorporate decision making at lower levels for local purposes. They fight smarter, not harder. Way more intelligence gathering capabilities, way, way more intelligence sharing between units, much more interconnectivity between different units --> much faster type of warfare that overwhelms the enemy and forces the enemy to constantly react instead of taking the initiative.
Coupled with the logistics, the economies etc. this makes western armies so tough to beat. Countries like Russia largely continue to wage napoleonesque warfare styles. With masses but with little to no communication, attrition based warfare etc... Resulting in much slower advances and missing opportunities.
China is already moving at breakneck speed away from the Russian warfare system to incorporate lessons learned over the past decades to create a chinese style of smart leadership with mass production. I bet that in the future the armies of the second and third world will not send their officers to Russia anymore.
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Nobody doubts that Germany started WW2 but it was not the sole responsible country of WW1.
It was Germans that did the Holocaust, everybody committed war crimes.
Polish soldiers, how many, 1000? The main bulk of polish armed forces surrendered in 1939, you were amongst some minor helping units but not a full fighting armed force. Ah and we beat the S*** out of americans in Monte Cassino.
There is the Deutsche Kriegsgräberfürsorge that does take care of rebedding fallen germans to other tombs. They located my great grandfather for instance.
Facts are, Germans lost.
Facts are, Germany is the richest country in Europe even if it lost a lot of territory and human power.
We are the leader of the EU, amongst the G7, G20 and countless other organisations. We are top in quality of life, social security, education etc.
Facts are, German contribution to science is outstanding.
Facts are, so many Polish or eastern europeans in general come to work in my country.
Facts are, the Nazis are dead, I am 20, I am not responsible for any actions, I will not apologize because I did nothing wrong.
Facts: Germany won in Scandinavia, France, Poland, Balcan, Greece.
Germany only got beaten by the combined forces of the USSR, Great Britain and the USA and it took them 4 years to bring us down, a country with less inhabitants than the empire, USA or USSR.
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The fate of Europe? Mate, Sweden and Russia are European, the Ottomans, well, without the austrians you would not have had a chance too and khanate, I don't know much about it.
Napoleon captured Moscow too, didn't help him too much in the end. Hitler did also fight a much bigger war, not just one city but the biggest country on earth, a front from Leningrad to Stalingrad, 3000km long.
USA and Russia were strong, France amry was just tactically shit and Britain had it's empire.
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I didn't. I perfectly understood what you meant. But to be fair, Poland hosted the largest community of jews before the war and b) all jews from western countries were deported to Poland because the death camps were located there. Anybody caught saving jews was shot or send to concentration camp and got killed in the last months.
It is the most effective way but a cowardice way.
I am not gloryfying the Nazis. They let to the destruction of Germany. I am however belittling the polish achievements you state because you do overstate them, for example in your comments, you try to create an illusion that Poland was a key member to allied success. Heico and I showed you that this was not true. You were a minor player.
Antisemitic tendencies were prevailant in all countries in Europe, don't argue that. In Germany, lawyers, doctors and so were also dominantly jewish or at least show much higher % than their part of the population. Parliamentary seats, number of Poets and so do not correlate to an open society.
Because there were much more jews to be saved than in Germany, persecution started very early in Germany and therefore almost all got caught, with some exempts.
You did collaborate with Nazis, don't deny it.
If you watch Hollywood, take it with a grain of salt.
The closest you can get with an accurate description of soldiers of Germany are the german films. Mostly were normal men, farmers, workers or others. 10% were strict Nazis. By the way, there are films about German heroism and bravery.
We gased but we apologised, paid huge sums to the families of the victims (still paying) and put of commemorating statues and so and it is in political debate.
We did this 70 years ago, politicians from today are not responsible for this. I guess, if the generation of the murders is dead, we can be a moral leader again. And we are leading, now we showed christian ideals in 2015. Did you? No.
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You did.
I never made Nazis heroes, are you blind or can't you read. And why do you tell me history I am very aware of? As already mentioned twice, you saved ost jews because all jews were in Poland.
Some Polish did collaborate, just because there was a resistance doesn't mean there wasn't collaboration.
Israel doesn't like us, especially since Netanjahu came to power.
You executed german soldiers when they gave up and were officially POW. Just to mention one crime.
Heroism. How about heroic fighting in the Autobahnschlachten or so many other battles. Ardennes 1940 and 1944-45? That was fighting.
I do not doubt that you were important for the breaking of Enigma Code. However, the polish mathematicians did "hack" a design from 1918 and in 1938/39, the Wehrmacht introduced a new version, rendering polish "hacking" (I do not have a better word) nearly useless. In Bletchley Park, there were only brits. Regarding the more important version of the Kriegsmarine, this was only solved when they got the codes from U110.
Again, I didn't say that the german jews survived, man, can you actually comprehend what I am writing?
I was saying that persecution started already 1933 and intensified 1938 to unprecedented levels.
In the country of the GESTAPO, saving jews was much more difficult than in Poland with the woods.
Some did but most got caught.
As for sentences, germans were usually sent to either prison or concentration camp, sometimes shot. Still pretty life threatening, given that they tried to execute all prisoners (for example, in my hometown Dortmund, they executed 300 prisoners and concentration camp inmates hours before the americans came).
One hero? Oskar Schindler.
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