Comments by "William Innes" (@williaminnes6635) on "Styxhexenhammer666" channel.

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  6. Kind of. At the beginning of the French Revolution, the first wave of revolutionaries decreed an end to slavery, including in the French empire outside of France. At that point, the Haitians were probably the world's most enthusiastic French citizens. Later, a different group of French revolutionaries realized that they really needed the money from sugar sales to fund the wars that broke out against Prussia, Russia, Austria, Britain, Portugal, and later Spain. (The French really pissed in everybody's coffee around the turn of the 19th century.) Napoleon sent Rochambeau to Haiti with the mission of suppressing the (fairly understandable) resistance the Haitians had to being told it was time to go back to being slaves. Dessalines was a maniac, but Rochambeau became the name of the South Park game of kick the other guy in the nuts for a reason, because that was his strategy for convincing people who had just been told they were free that they had to go back to being slaves. The guy literally invented a primitive version of the gas chamber to execute Haitians he suspected were involved with arming the Haitian revolutionaries. He'd burn sulfur in the holds of ships to suffocate people. He'd put nails in barrels and use them to roll people down hills. So, the mass lynchings of French and collaborationist Haitian planters LOOK nasty in those old cartoons, but...people were pissed. Really it's more similar to the War in the Vendee, except that the French central government was too weak to pull off a full genocide the way they were able to in what became mainland France. Partially this was because of the distance, partially because the Royal Navy went back and forth from helping the French when it looked like the Haitian Revolution would make problems in British possessions to helping the Haitian revolutionaries when it looked like a great way to grief the French - smaller version of what the French did to the British in America. The American Revolution just wasn't quite as barbaric as the French Revolution. The psychological thing was almost as bad as the indemnity. Given how nasty the war was, once Louverture got in, there was no way of convincing the average person to go back to working on a plantation. That was the only way they could have kept up their exports, because sugar was the one thing they were set up to produce. In a world where the later French revolutionaries had decided to keep slavery off the books, Haiti would have probably developed as a standard banana republic. They would have had a sharecrop economy for a century and change then gradually diversified. It'd be an upper middle income nation today. If you told somebody from that timeline our timeline's version of what happened, it would sound insane to them, and if they were from Haiti, they'd probably take it as an insult. Even had somebody who wasn't as brutal as Rochambeau been sent by Napoleon, it would still have been possible to convince the average person to work as a sharecropper. but after all the shit they went through because of Rochambeau? They weren't going to do that. and that meant you then had a century plus where instead of exporting something, they exported nothing. The tertiary tragedy of the way the Haitian Revolution happened - besides the horrific atrocities and destroying Haiti's exports for a hundred years - was that when the early French revolutionaries declared an end to slavery, in 1792 IIRC, the debate on slavery had just entered Common as a result of Wilberforce pushing it. The argument got made to see how it would work out for the French before rushing in. Then the wars with France distracted Commons from the issue until 1815, and it was just sort of forgotten until 1834, when, after a frenzy of changes to the way the system was set up started by getting rid of electoral districts where everybody was on the take, the decision was finally made to get rid of it. In other words, it was the initial catalyst for delay. Slavery might have ended 42 years earlier in the British Empire had things gone differently. That might have meant pressure on Spain and Portugal got started earlier. Titbit number four, the first wave of refugees welcomed by the United States as an independent country were Haitians and Frenchmen fleeing the Haitian Revolution. This was because South Carolina and North Carolina had disproportionately been settled by planters who had failed at growing sugar in the Caribbean, and who were automatically sympathetic to Haitian and French planters who lost their plantations during the Haitian Revolution.
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