Comments by "William Innes" (@williaminnes6635) on "Styxhexenhammer666"
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I forget the name of the Indian master Buddhist who came to China and was convinced by Huike of his devotion to Buddhism by Huike cutting off his own arm in front of him. edit - Bodhidharma, but I had to write out the rest of the story to make me remember
They always draw him as obviously foreign in the monastery frescoes - big bulging eyes, wild beard, crazed grimace.
I sort of imagine Bodhidharma looking at Huike and going "holy fuck, man, you just cut off your fucking arm! All right, all right, I'll stop trying to convince you I'm an impressive religious master and let you be my top disciple."
anyway legend goes Huike meditated in one of the caverns up in the mountains so long the force of his concentration burned an image of him into the cavern walls
then the other folk religion character that got picked up by the version of Buddhism that came to be associated with the better know schools of traditional Chinese martial arts was Vajrapani, where the theory is that Vajrapani was originally just Hercules, to whom Bactrians and other central Asian people had continued to pray to after the diadochii - the ancient Macedonian generals who divided up the empire of Alexander the Great - as a god of strength. Buddhism as it passed through central Asia from India, the argument goes, picked up basically any folk deity it could consider to be a supernatural entity inferior to Buddha himself who acted with the overall purpose of helping people to enlightenment, and Hercules became associated with one of the Buddhist analogies about how keeping yourself detached from worldly concerns was like wiping the dust off of a reflective surface, hence the character bearing a diamond that shot lightning - forget the language, might be Sanskrit, but Vajrapani the name means "lightning diamond." Five dollar word for the day is "eponymous." As schools of martial arts began to follow Vajrapani as their monastery sub-deity, eventually the diamond in his hand began to be replaced by a quarterstaff, since Buddhist monks to show what they were carried a staff with them with a ring in the top, so a stick was a weapon to which they always had access, and stick fighting became strongly associated with monasteries which focused on martial arts. Typing this out, I sort of wonder if maybe this might have been the result of a Buddhist having encountered a depiction of Hercules carrying the club of Hercules. This would be a twelve foot shaft usually of ash IIRC for monastery drills, but during the later medieval campaigns against pirates from Japan, the monks used eight foot iron staves which were more lethal. The stories related to the exceptions the martial arts monasteries made for meat, alcohol, and women are more along the lines of "well I had a dream that the Buddha told me that it was OK if we ate animal sinews to gain strength, so our abbey makes an exception to the Buddhist monastic code." When a tradition needs to come up with an excuse to say why it is OK for high T guys to act like high T guys, it comes up with an excuse. (I actually can cite my source on this one, everything here is in Meir Shahar's compilation of essays related to his translations of rubbings he took of inscriptions on stele erected around Shaolin Abbey in mainland China in the 1990s and 2000s.)
TL; DR, we have the same thing to thank for how we know the Indian caste system is relatively "modern" as we do for the existence of kung fu
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and to anybody who reads this and decides they want to get into it, learn Sanskrit, try to get a hold of a copy of the Buddhist monastic code, the vinaya, and learn it cover to cover, try to pick up some Japanese, and keep your day job
At that point, you've got the skill set East Asian studies Ph Ds with funding for a grad student want to see to begin to vouch for why your slave wage labour for them ought to be worth a college saying you have a Master's degree, and beginning to point you at stuff in the vinaya and interpretations of it that other people have not studied recently, which is how you're going to get a dissertation out of it.
Don't take courses not related to Sanskrit or the vinaya until you've got that shit down like the back of your hand.
Japanese because the best archives in the world for the Eastern Tradition are in Japan.
Japan only started keeping its own set of records in the 5th century after Christ, but they're the one place where the wars didn't burn them to the ground or the weather didn't turn them to soil or the scholars didn't turn to apathy and cynicism, so they have the most complete set of records related to the Eastern Tradition.
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