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@McLovin1759 The keffiyeh is a regional symbol, not a religious symbol, similar to the "confederate" flag.
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@62Cristoforo Why are we still throwing around that organization's name as though they were the bad guys? Our guys aren't fighting them at the moment. It makes as much sense as continuing to be bitter about the Croats for the small war our guys had with them in Bosnia in the 1990s.
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@DanielS-ri1fw The keffiyeh is like the "confederate" flag. A person who is actually from the region it represents probably just has it to show their regional sentiment. A person who is not from that region might deserve the raised eyebrows he or she will get as a result of displaying it.
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@lordfogg9728 Secularism is not a thing that we do on this side of the river.
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@DanielS-ri1fw To answer your question, the notwithstanding clause and section one happened to freedom of expression, in 1981.
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@Andrico77 Didn't they have swastikas in Ottawa when they were doing all that virtue signaling about The Ukraine, or am I thinking of some other symbol left over by the schutz staffel in Galicia? The "confederate" flag actually is pretty comparable to the keffiyeh. Both are regional symbols, but both in some contexts could understandably and justifiably be taken as symbols of hatred or a desire to intimidate.
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@Iban-Underground well I don't see Hamas asking to buy explosives and aircraft parts from companies that create manufacturing jobs here. Do you?
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@alexander1974ish mmm the Palestinians who moved to Jordan in the 1960ws and 1970s have not exactly made themselves the most loved minority
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There is no moral issue at stake with the online hate law, because Quebec has never supported individual rights of any kind.
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@McLovin1759 By that standard, as Israel is the ethnostate created out of the former Ottoman Empire for the former administrative unit which governed Ottoman Jews, in an analogous fashion to the ways in which modern Armenia represents the old Ottoman Armenian Orthodox dhimmi, and modern Greece represents the old Ottoman Greek Orthodox dhimmi, the line between antiIsrael or antiZionist rhetoric and antisemtiic rhetoric is nonexistent.
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The keffiyeh is like the BFANV. It is often displayed as a symbol of regional sentiment with no intent to intimidate or menace. However, when it comes to people who do not have blood in West Bank or Gaza, or whose families do not come from there, or in the context of a demonstration at which chants for genocide are taking place, one does have to ask why a person would make use of it.
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If they're paying then we're selling.
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@corychallice7705 The Charter doesn't protect anything. Any province can always invoke the notwithstanding clause, or else use section one if they want to deal with language nonsense. People in this province just generally support the principle that a person ought to be free to speak her or his mind. Hard constitutional protections for individual rights are not really a thing outside of America and Japan.
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@corychallice7705 Hate speech is free speech, but the hate speech law is federal, and it is not realistic to expect the federal government ever to reflect a single civic value actually possessed by the local majority of any given province or region, because hardly any regional or provincial civic values so much as rhyme with those of the province next door. The two speech things to fix provincially are 1) get rid of the 100m abortion clinic protest ban and 2) bring back binding faith based arbitration, and allow all faiths to go through the procedure to register arbitrators under it. If some guy in Quebec says something about Islam and ends up in the slammer for longer than your average rapist, I don't care. They don't believe in speech rights over there, so it's like getting worked up about people not having privacy on the internet in mainland China.
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It's contextual.
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They throw punches, they get thrown out. Until then, I may not agree with the public expression of moral support for a listed terrorist organization recently involved in a nasty terror attack, but...the version of the rights of freeborn Englishmen carried to these provinces by the West Country fishermen who decided to check out the shore and to this province specifically by the Pennsylvania Loyalists, as partially articulated in section two of the charter, doesn't need any more undermining than it has been getting and will get.
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@susieq1386 Provincially, Premier Ford is a complete milquetoast, but...that's the strategy that kept Premier Davis in so long, and while Premier Harris had his heart in the right place, the problem is that that caused him to become demonized by the same entrenched special interests he had tried to fight, who were able to wear down all the progress he had made.
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well given you brought it up, if I ever read that the Russians are within a day's drive to the Vistula, I'm going to write my MP and ask that Canada drop out of NATO, because Poland isn't worth the toe nail of a Canadian Forces Fusilier Third Class, let alone an Article Five response.
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as far as the money laundering factory that uses that yellow and blue troll flag goes, people who donated enough and have the machine set up to rinse their cash through it are going to continue to do so
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Premier Ford's a marshmallow. Every other realistic alternative is a dog turd. You can put a marshmallow over a dumpster fire and pretend you're camping. You can't do that with a dog turd.
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They're college kids done with exams camping out on an unseasonably warm May. I think the message is retarded, but the kids themselves are just kids.
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The problem with that is it causes the demonization of the real conservative for decades thereafter by the special interests, then his good work is undermined when they are able to work on the public mood. It isn't sexy to govern somewhere between a marshmallow slightly tainted by raspberry syrup and Bill Davis, but that's what is needed long term.
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@Iban-Underground Exactly. It's not our guys fault the situation means only one side is buying munitions from them. You should support Ontario manufacturing.
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@arthurkjr hey fuck off with the E-word, all right
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@alexander1974ish Were it not for the housing crisis and the population adjusted recession, I would personally not give a shit about a hundred thousand Gazans in a couple of townhouse surveys in what in real life is the green belt. Manitoba is in a position to welcome a few of them, so Wab Kinew is doing Israel a favour by enabling a version of the strategic hamlet strategy by taking people fleeing an actual war. I don't know what you call those now that a "refugee" is somebody with a particular kind of lawyer, but, nothing more wrong with women and children from Gaza than from The Ukraine or Sudan or anywhere else.
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@FlowKio might have had something to do with the wave of human trafficking from Hungary back when Harper was in office. Spoke with a guy who said he was from Hungary and agreed it was real and that he agreed with Hungary getting thrown out of the visa-free agreement, as in his view it was mostly Gypsies using it. Also anybody I've actually known IRL from The Ukraine described the place as less of a country than a meme of corruption.
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@Iban-Underground ah ah ah, no IHRA definition antisemitism. Besides, in 1942, Canada as a self-governing colony of UK had been at war with Germany for three years.
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@Iban-Underground The mainland's not in the alliance structure. Israel is.
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@Iban-Underground Which begs the question, why is it that all kinds of questionable behaviour is acceptable by every other country in the world, but as soon as that country happens to be the ethnostate which exists to represent Jews as an ethnicity, suddenly there's this expectation of a standard to be set?
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@ndd8234 If the Izzies are paying for those explosives, aircraft parts, and software licenses, then that's them supporting our guys making stuff here. Well, the explosives, anyway.
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@ndd8234 The weather has been good, and they are welcome to their camping trip, but the cause is moronic.
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@ndd8234 I got a 24 hour mute so it might be that you were getting affected by it for interacting with one of my comments from immediately prior to it.
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@Xocolatben The religious right thing will have no impact for so long as federal HQ does not make the error of attempting to get seats in Quebec.
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@Prophet111 That's fine, for the east bank of the river.
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but are they? The online hate bill if anything makes sense to maintain, since removing it would unfairly favouritize the critics of Islam in Quebec it was plainly intended to target, given the Quebec antiJew antiMuslim law passed a court challenge that it had correctly violated the individual speech rights of Jews and Muslims in Quebec. At most the online hate law would be amended to state clearly that the notwithstanding clause was being invoked to ban criticism of Islam in Quebec, therefore avoiding providing the impression that the Conservatives are taking sides in an intraprovincial issue.
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@McLovin1759 If somebody chooses to use a symbol in a context which is hard to mistake as intended for hatred, then it seems reasonable that a certain stigma would attach to that symbol. Since there are no hard protections for speech rights in this part of the world - federally, given the complete absence of support for individual rights in Quebec, this puts individual rights including speech rights firmly on the far right of politics - in practice I do not see why were somebody to use one of those symbols in an analogous fashion to the way the keffiyeh has been used at too many demonstrations since October 7 that it would not meet a similar sort of sanction.
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@McLovin1759 Since when is any form of nationalism not seen as hatred? Even when its adherents are not screeching for the blood of another ethnicity in the streets.
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@McLovin1759 and you do understand that the specific context in this case is an MPP with a long history of antisemitic remarks who went out of her way to say no to an opportunity given to her by her former party leader to clear the air on the subject, yes?
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@McLovin1759 Naw he just banned the Palestinian scarf. The main person wearing it had the record in public life that she did and it had been a bit too prominent in demonstrations involving calls for genocide. Same as if a "confederate" flag had been at more cross burnings than cookouts.
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@McLovin1759 and if this province is going to walk back restrictions on speech rights, then ditching the abortion clinic protest ban and ditching the ban on faith-based binding arbitration - i. e. allowing "shariah law" - should be higher priority than allowing back in the legislature a symbol most recently used to call for the mass murder of an ethnic group
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@McLovin1759 Ah, so you DON'T GAF speech rights. 😃 Well done. You got a long thread out of me. I wonder how many other whiners about a known antisemite's desire to display a symbol of her desire for the mass murder of all Jews argue in similarly bad faith? 🤔
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@Iban-Underground mmm that chant about the bodies of water that's a euphemism for wanting to kill the Jews sure sounds like hatred to me. Now if the reality here was closer to the hate laws are on the books, but they never get enforced, ever, I wouldn't be fussed about it, but...
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How hard do you suppose it would be for some anglophone piece of shit from the other side of the river, sitting fat and content on his corrupt Liberal pork barrels, to log on to social, express his sincere opinions about brown people, and attempt to paint it as something we on this side of the river believe?
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@acheybones588 Bing search says he's wrong on the details and that it was Lauren Southern who got to be a punching bag on October 5, 2016, outside a JPetes event at Sidney Smith Hall.
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@minkorrh These guys who hate on Premier Ford because of the health care thing, they're just bad faith ass holes covering for their leech buddies who want to be able to hire more leech buddies into the bloated bureaucracy dragging down the entire system.
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That hasn't been the standard ever since the Irish showed up in their potato boats and couldn't keep themselves from drinking and rioting as though they were still back in the bog.
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That is what they did on the other side of the river.
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January....I think 3, 2019, Broadview Magazine, might still be up on the internet, printed allegations that Canada had been funding the al Qaeda in Syria material support organization. CBC report on the same incident the previous summer, again, might still be up on the internet, alleged that the targeted number of al Qaeda terrorists to be evacuated from Syria to Canada was as high as 200. The pre-subsidy mainstream media only reported the number as 100. Trudeau said Israel had asked Canada to take the terrorists. Netanyahu said Canada had asked Israel to have the terrorists. There was intermittent reporting of the terrorists having been moved to a prison camp in Jordan.
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@pattit6530 We're in the same alliance structure as the Izzies, and that won't change.
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@acheybones588 If you're going to single out one ethnostate, you're inviting being confused with somebody motivated by hatred of the ethnicity it represents.
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