Comments by "sharper68" (@sharper68) on "The Humanist Report"
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+Hank Schroeder He can make his own choice and go bankrupt because of it because the system is not focused on providing care but making money. Our system is not about choice at all but about an effort to enrich a handful of assholes at the expense of every consumer who cares if his family lives or dies because they have access to care. There is nothing wrong with making money unless you have to advocate for those who can not afford your essential service to die because it is priced to high.
You guys keep babbling about "more taxation" ignoring the fact you would pay half as much as you do now for the same service that covered everyone with no copay, no deductible, etc, etc, etc. You are literally arguing to pay more and open the door to bankruptcy if heaven forbid something goes terribly wrong and you lose your coverage or someone you care about is fucked over because of preexisting conditions. You are arguing for the worst system in the free world while spitting half wit talking points fed to you about choice when in fact you have none except to pay through the nose or die quickly once sick to spare burdening your family and friends.
Point to one system on earth where your silly ideas work on a large scale to provide a critical service, name one. This is another fact free talking point meant to sound noble but what it really means is people will die, this is a policy that would literally kill 10's of thousands. This voluntary bullshit is nothing but a path to enriching the very richest at the cost of our 1st world society. There is nothing Nobel in stepping over the sick and dying to at a little to your bottom line. There is no where on earth your stupid service to assholes policies are in place and you have no expectation they would work any better than they do in the third world where the poor regularly die of completely preventable issues. Enough with the childish demand of volunteerism and back up how this would work I the real world or be silent with your selfish foolish demands.
You clowns literally support overt fascists as you vote for the GOP or anyone on the right these days. They sell sell you out the highest bidder every single day. The establishment dems are only barely marginally better but at least they do not empower insurance companies by allowing them to cut the basic service they provide so they can make an extra buck. Our health system is an overt failure not because of the poor draining it (as we provide weak coverage and care for them anyway) but because we have zero cost control and as prices go up and up insurance companies just pay the bill and pass the costs onto us as it makes no difference to them and actually increases their profit margins as prices rise.
I would argue it is you and your ilk that are garbage as you fight to see your fellow citizens die because simply because they can not afford care. You argue on behalf of your side making up what I stand for as I point out the actual results of your idiot spin.
Analysis of the situation is not your strength and if you actually did what you admonish you would find no arguments that actually back up your spin would be an improvement. You have bought some silly spin making you sound like a moral crusader for "freedom" when you in fact preach slavery to the insurance companies and the status quo. Even what you want is a tip of your hat to stasis as your ideas are so unworkable they will never see the light of day and the fact you by default side with the status quo empowers it.
"You’re the Nazis. You are the Stalin's and the Hitler's." Hyperbole much? In your mind is the entire first world being run by Stalin and Hitler? Canadians, Europeans, Asians and the entire first world live under "Stalin/Hitler rule in your fevered mind? Even you can not believe this stupid shit you spit. The answer is no halfwit and pretending otherwise is base stupid and rejected as an idiots assertion on the face.
Call me closed minded, but I have study proposals like yours and reject them because there is no expectation they will make things any better than they are in the third world and the most backward places on the planet where what you want is the only system available. You clowns are not connected to reality and spit talking points dreamed up in think tanks to rob you and me both. You are the ideologues here and part of a tiny minority who as bought in the bullshit you sell. Your analysis of the positions are as deep as rain puddle and are based on your dogma and not good results for consumers or anything that currently works let alone works well. You literally have no reasons outside an empty appeal to faith that what you want would work let alone provide good outcomes. I can point to the systems that are the best in the world and provide the highest quality care for the most people and you simply have no data backing your fact free assertions.
It is clear you have no idea what is even being propose as you say something stupid like this:
"Why in the hell would any sane person not only contribute part of their pay to their employer's private insurance company, but then also be forced to fund this "Medicare for all" through their taxes also?"
The answer is you would not longer have to get insurance from your employer as you would have options, if we paid for our health care through our taxes like the rest of the first world we would pay half of what we do not to insurance companies and everyone would be covered. The middle man is the insurance companies that that they do nto care to control costs because they make more as they go up along with their profit motive is the root fault or our system. I do not give a flying fuck about the insurance companies that have been selling us increasingly expensive oxygen for the last 40 years. At best they should sell supplemental coverage to those who want it and should b e out of the primary care game as they offer zero value and the ones driving up costs for the consumer as they literally do not care how much it costs as they pass everything onto us. So the answer to your misinformed question is you would no longer pay insurance companies for health care. You may get dental or other coverage through work but the burden of providing health care would be lifted from business allowing them to do what they are in business to do. I will not shed one tear for an industry that bankrupts 100 thousand Americans a year while rolling in money.
There is no such law forcing insurance to keep their rates higher as you have zero options to opt in anyway. You are literally making shit up and I guess when you have no arguments that is what you are forced to do. We have plenty of "competition" but no cost control and no one in it gives a fuck if you live or die as the insurance companies through a process called recidivism will work to find a way not to pay for needed care even if you have insurance. Competition is not what makes the other systems that actually work successful and you using poorly thought out talking points as you babble about it being anything but a sloppy blow job to the status quo as you drool all over yourself.
When you ask a question as stupid as "WHY do you even need a private insurance company or government insurance IN THE FIRST PLACE" it underlines your profound lack of comprehension on how the system even works or the costs associated with it very very few people in the entire country can shoulder. It is clear you think our system is the same as it was in the turn of the century before hospitals were expected to have million dollar mri machines or child mortality was 4s time higher than it is today. The era you guys point to was not a golden age of medicine and people regularly died because we did not have the resources or systems or knowledge built through research (also driven by money) that cured them. We can't do it because you can't afford your own care for anything more complicated than simple surgery. At least no more than once. We reject it because it is a pipe dream that ignores the costs and would mean hospitals simply could not function as you bringing in a couple chickens to pay for your health care will no longer cover it like in the good old days at the turn of the century when you dealt doc brown.
That you do not think you have an ideology does not mean you do not. You would choose to see people die in the name of your greed and no one should let you clowns forget what you stand for even as you pretend to be moral.
I am happy to listen to ideas but listen does not mean I will capitulate to them especially when they serve no one. You babble about those who disagree with you not being open minded as you represent the most closed minded vision there is and do not even care what your proposed policy means or who it hurts as long as it meets your faith based vision of the world. Being lectured by the likes of you as you show you do not even know what is being debated while pretending to be morally superior as you would step over bodies is empty bullshit waved away by the sane.
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