Comments by "LancesArmorStriking" (@LancesArmorStriking) on "The Majority Report w/ Sam Seder"
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@jlighter1
The answer there is simple. It pledged, in 2008, to make both Ukraine and Georgia full NATO members.
You might not agree that Russia was forced to do anything, but from its own perspective, that potential state of affairs was unacceptable.
If you want a counter-example, the US was "forced" to threaten nuclear war over nuclear missiles in Cuba.
Cuba is also a sovereign nation, and the US had no issues stationing Jupiter missiles in Turkey, but freaked out when the shoe was on the other foot. In that moment, from the US point of view, Cuba had to be forced against its will.
It's a simple reality— alliances don't exist in a vacuum; there isn't a reality where "every state has the right to join any alliance it wants!".
That's not how any state has ever acted in history, and you're ridiculous for thinking Russia or any other country should act that way.
Especially after what NATO did in Libya (no Article 5 trigger), it's not a defensive alliance. It's a de facto arm of the US military, and it's extremely dangerous.
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