Comments by "LancesArmorStriking" (@LancesArmorStriking) on "HasanAbi"
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@PlatinumAltaria
..So, basically proving my point again. You refuse to believe that you could possible be wrong, or that the scenario doesn't play out exactly as you've described it.
At least, not in a way that benefits Ukraine.
There are lives to negotiate. That goes for Ukraine, too. lol
And in spite of all of what you said, 8 years later, Crimea in still Russian and will likely remain so.
You can argue with me on the internet all you want, but the truth is that all possibilities are open-- and it is all about likelihood. Anything is technically possible, but some outcomes are more probable than others.
I see it as likely that Russia will further reduce its holdings to just Donbas and Crimea, and will keep the conflict brewing to force a negotiation.
Now, given all that-- do you expect Ukraine to keep throwing bodies at their eastern front?
Assuming you don't just say
"no you're wrong, Ukraine just.. .can't lose! I can't accept the idea that they won't win!!"
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@ravenblood1954
How am I delusional? For exploring all possible scenarios playing out in the conflict?
You literally refused to even entertain the idea that there would be any outcome besides Ukraine's complete victory.
Really going for broke there, huh?
The West is more prosperous because of colonialism and slavery. One only need look at Europe before the Age of "Exploration", and after.
I just find it just astounding that you think the countries which had literal colonies in living memory are the "good guys".
Why do you think Kenya is still furious with Britain? Why do you think France still has French Guiana-- their fantastic diplomacy and democratic governance??
You know how much Europe had funneled into it in terms of resources and FREE manpower? Untold trillions, for hundreds of years.
It'd be a miracle if Europe WASN'T prosperous.
That is something which Russia was
A) hundreds of years late to, courtesy of the Mongols,
B) stopped at every turn by Europe, which had already industrialized and colonized.
See the Crimean War: all of Europe wanted to prevent Russia from having what they had: access to the sea. Same with Japan in the East.
Historic instability came at the hands of constant invasion. We don't have the British Channel. Or the Mediterranean. Or the Alps, or Pyrenes, or the Atlantic. Just flat, indefensible land.
How do you expect us to be stable under these conditions?
The only time we came close was the 1900s, when Russia had expanded to the Carpathians in the West, the Karakum Desert in the south, and the Pacific in the far East.
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@ravenblood1954
Yes, but it is at least a consideration of the other sides' negotiations. You claim that it's insane that Russia should even be allowed to put forth terms, yet you turn around and say that Ukraine should basically get everything it wants.
Like it or not, Crimea won't return to Ukraine-- the people there literally don't want to be part of Ukraine.
In 1994, when Russia was weakened and busy with Georgia, Crimea voted on its own to become autonomous. Ukraine declared it illegal.
Whatever happened to respecting democracy??
Was the plan to forcefully Ukrainianize the Crimeans? Isn't that what Ukraine claims separates it from tyrannical, horrible Russia? Or is it just "okay when we do it" now?
The "people of Ukraine" didn't decide their government. The Verkhovnaya Rada under-represented the southeastern regions (Russian-speaking ones) and there were counter-protests against the Maidan overthrow.
It was because of massive protests in Kiev, not the entire country, that the whole government was changed.
Ultimately, when you ignore these warning signs, Russia sees an opportunity-- much like the US in Middle East-- to support separatist groups.
The demand is easily enforced-- they're right next to each other and Russia did it for 400 years before.
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