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@squeakysoliloquy83 "Soft fas cism is different to the historical Fasc ism. " There is no such thing as "soft fasc ism". There is only fasc ism, which is historical by definition since it is not a thing anymore.
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@squeakysoliloquy83 "soft fasc ism (as explained by Vlad Vexler) is like talking the talk of a fas cist but not really walking the walk" That is not how fas cism worked.
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@squeakysoliloquy83 "of course there is" Nope. It's not a thing.
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@squeakysoliloquy83 "that's right, 3xactly, it's how fasc ism didn't work" Either you are a fa scist or you are not. You cannot "talk fas cist" without "walking fasc ist". Also someone like Trump would be the very people the fas cists opposed.
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@squeakysoliloquy83 "You stick to mainstream garb age." I stick to history.
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It's cute that you think that you people even have Capitalism. You don't. You have a mixed economy system. That is why you don't get much positive things. You need more Capitalism and less "welfare statism".
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@RealMrBruh "Since when was Anarchy right wing lol? The original anarchists and most anarchists today are on the far left. " Leftist anarchists are usually Communists, as Communism is a form of Anarchy, just based on collectivism. Right anarchists are indeed An-Caps, based on individualism.
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@RealMrBruh "Also by this logic theocracies are left wing? " They are. For someone who is in favor of individual rights and liberties, it makes no difference if a totalitarian government is based on religious value or marxist values, or whatever supposedly "superior" values that get enforced and imposed upon everyone. It's about how much government (collective) control there is, not which book they claim to get their authority from.
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@RealMrBruh "You have, a priori decided that bad=left and good=right. " I'm not the OP, but personally I would argue, that the fundamental differences between left-wing and right-wing ideologies center around the rights of individuals vs. the power of the collective. Left-wing beliefs are based on the notion that society is best served with an expanded role for the collective in-group (collectivism). People on the Right believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when individual rights and civil liberties are paramount (individualism) and the role — and especially the power — of the government is minimized. - The more Right you go, the more individual rights and liberties are allowed, hence resulting in an economic liberalization and eventually, Laissez-faire. - The more Left you go, the more collectivism is unleashed upon the society, hence resulting in an economic centralization and usually Socialism.
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Subjugate others with what? The whole point of libertarianism is to make government inefficient when it comes to subjugating others.
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That's not how libertarianism works.
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@LawrenceTimme : They seem to be Collectivists and Nationalists, so they are on the Left. Couldn't find much about their economic policies but they certainly love big daddy government and they might even be socialists.
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Does there need to be a plan? or do you think people are only kind and helpful when forced to be at the point of a gun? Charities and non-profits are already a thing though.
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@ulverop : I'm sure there would be enough people willing to help them out, however at the end of the day, no matter if people are homeless, disabled or whatever... they are not entitled to other people's money and things in general.
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What would be the point if anything and everything could be "right" ?
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@marionmorrison2854 : Technically you said, as traditionalism basically results in everything being on the "right". For example, socialism is traditional on the eastern part of the world, capitalism on the west. Now you have two contradicting economic systems on the "right" side. It will only get worse if we start to actually look what has been traditional in every country. So yes, American Right would be different from the British Right and both would be different from the Chinese Right, but why call them Right in the first place when they have nothing in common?
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@marionmorrison2854 " I don't agree that socialism is traditional in the east. There was a tradition before that." Socialism has been a thing in China for a long time for example, from Pol Pot to Mao to Xi Jingpin. Also the question is how far in traditionalism we want to go. Does that include Russia before or after the Bolshevik revolution for example? or China before or after their imperial dynasties?
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@Mark Pawelek : "Fa scism is ri ght-win g Hegelianism / Statism" Incorrect. It is fa r le ft, state soci alis m.
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@Mark Pawelek : "Comm unism is l eft-w ing Hegelianism / Statism" Incorrect. Comm unism is ext reme left and doesn't involve a sta te. It is supposed to be the end game of marx ism; stat eless and clas ses dystopia.
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True. This current Center-Leftist, mixed economy "welfare statism" is nothing more than modern feudalism.
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They are not Liberals though.
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@VoiceMonkey : Fa sci sm is fundamentally a socialist ideology. Also the differences between left-wing and right-wing ideologies center around the the rights of individuals vs. the power of the government. Left-wing beliefs are liberal in that they believe society is best served with an expanded role for the government. People on the right believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when individual rights and civil liberties are paramount and the role — and especially the power — of the government is minimized.
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Leftism should, and is, reserved for people who are strictly anti-capitalist.
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@Chris Landry: No. Na zi sm and Fa scis m are 2 completely different s oci ali st ideologies. Na zis were national so cia lis ts, not fa sci sts.
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Interesting. Wasn't expecting Trump to adopt the Leftist "end justifies the means" mindset.
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"If you're rig ht wing then you advocate for a strong EFFICIENT govern ment with the backbone to fight back against leftw ing ideology. " Nope. You are as bad as le ft garb age. The fundamental differences between left-wing and right-wing ideologies center around the the rights of individuals vs. the power of the government. Left-wing beliefs are liberal in that they beli eve society is best served with an expanded role for the gover nment. People on the right believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when individual rights and civil liberties are paramount and the role — and especially the power — of the gov ernment is minimized.
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"Basically, you're part of the problem. " The government is the problem, and people who want to make it bigger.
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@MB-fy8kk Franco etc. believed in totalitarianism... but you do you, Chancellor Sutler.
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@dallascopp4798 "I don’t think you can claim classical liberals as right wing." In our modern day political spectrum, it is a Far-Right ideology ... Americans mistakenly call this ideology as "right wing libertarianism".
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@dallascopp4798 "And Jean-Jacques Roussea- the renowned enlightenment philosopher and liberal philosopher- was against the traditional French monarchy." However Rousseau wasn't a Liberal nor did he or France have anything to do with Liberalism, which was founded in England, by John Locke. Rousseau was a proto-socialist and believed in direct democracy, and was against private property as a concept.
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They are not Liberals though.
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... and how would you people decide who gets to be "the king" exactly? Good luck trying to convince your independent states to bow down to your supreme king of the federal government, especially if that king is a leftist.
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"WW2 got rid of the only real opposition to communism." They weren't opposition. They were rivals. Liberalism stands in opposition to socialism in general, but I guess you people have no clue what Liberalism even is.
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"The West adopted left wing values through a capitalist economic system, " No such thing as "left wing values". Capitalist economic system is antithetical to the Left.
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You have no clue what Right wing is then.
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Liberalism hasn't even been tried yet.
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Liberalism is not dead by any means. Many people are just too addicted to the big daddy Government.
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Libertarianism is literally the opposite of marxism, and communism respectively.
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@mrgabagoo580 "you support the free movement of labour? " But of course.
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@mrgabagoo580 " I would describe myself as a social conservative with socialist economic views ... However, that is precisely one of the reasons I oppose completely free markets - I believe in national sovereignty and nation states." Are you familiar with Oswald Mosley perchance?
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@mrgabagoo580 "Again, but for your following bad faith response," It wasn't. Assuming you are from the UK, the closest ideology that matches your ideals would be the BUF. Also Mosley didn't exactly follow the footsteps of the Austrian with a mustache, but the instead the Italian bald dude.
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Libertarian, is in socialism or Liberalism as in individual right, liberties and small government?
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Trump has always been a moderate, and to the American Left, everyone to the Right from Lenin is "Far-Right", even Stalin. They just have no clue what they are talking about, and Dan is not exactly correct either.
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"Quite simply I'd say political left pushes for change and political right resists change/pushes to reverse change." Now you are talking about Conservatism and Progressivism, which have nothing to do with the left/right spectrum.
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"What is left and right depends on what the status quo is at that given time." So technically there is no left and right according to you, as everything is relative.
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@jelle6325 The problem is that there is no logical consistency there. For example, by your logic the regime of Fidel Castro in Cuba would have been Left wing prior their revolution, and after they succeeded taking over the country, they are magically on the Right now (as why would they want to change their status quo for which they fought for?) .... even though nothing changed in their ideology.
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Liberals and Liberalism in general have nothing to do with modern Left wing politics. You are talking about Progressive Leftists here.
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"com munism is the largest government possible where freedom is all but completely abolished." Actually that is marx ism. Commun ism doesn't have a government, since it's supposed to be a stateless and classless society. However yes, it's somehow supposed to work like a hivemind without individual freedom.
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@Alek Samson : Both naz ism and fasc ism were F AR-left ideologies, since they were different branches of soc iali sm and they really didn't differ much from what Le nin and Sta lin did. It was not a battle of left against right, but a struggle between different left-wing ideologies, an internationalist and a nationalist one.
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@Aleksamson : Nationalism goes against com muni sm indeed, yet people like Jos eph "for the Motherland" St alin and M ao were highly natio nali stic while also being so cial ists.
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