Comments by "Historia, Magistra Vitae" (@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.) on "PragerU" channel.

  1.  @TylerJames88  "no fascism is a negation of socialism." Still wrong. Fascism was never against socialism. It was against Marxism.
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  2.  @TylerJames88  "you do understand it's not socialism if it's stateism and class collaboration lol. That literally can't be socialism" Wrong. Socialism is an economic system where the collective (such as workers, guilds, syndicates, unions, the government etc.) either directly own or control the buildings and tools that make goods and services like farms and factories. This can be achieved through decentralized and direct worker-ownership, or through centralized state-ownership or control of the means of production. Fascism had the latter.
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  3.  @TylerJames88  " lol the doctrine of fascism disagrees with you." Nope, it specifically does not.
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  4.  @TylerJames88  "that's also not socialism lol. Syndicalism is not socialism." Wrong. Syndicalism is a form of socialism.
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  5.  @TylerJames88  "I'm not arguing with someone who rejects the writings of the fascists on fascism. Have a good day." I'm literally quoting and telling you about the writings of the Fascists themselves. Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxist interpretation of socialism ("class warfare"). Instead, it advocated for class collaboration where the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions / Fascist Corporatism), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism (Neo-Hegelianism). Being an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, (which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism), its idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the State, or "embody" the State (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the State, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State." As finalized by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile ("the Doctrine of Fascism"), Fascism came from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its "dictatorship of the proletariat" cannot be achieved, and that only the State can properly organize a socialist society. Therefore, Fascism cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State. [01] "La Dottrina Del Fascismo / the Doctrine of Fascism", by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile [02] "Che cosa è il Fascismo: Discorsi e polemiche / Origins and Doctrine of Fascism", by Giovanni Gentile [03] "the Philosophy of Fascism", by Mario Palmieri [04] "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice", by Renzo De Felice [05] "Mussolini's Intellectuals", by A. James Gregor [06] "La Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni", by Rabaglietti Giuseppe & Sergio Panunzio [07] "Teoria generale dello Stato Fascista", by Sergio Panunzio [08] "The Birth of Fascist Ideology" by Zeev Sternhell [09] Any work from Emilio Gentile
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  6.  @TylerJames88  "Fascism is anti socialist " Still wrong. They specifically said even in those quotes you put from the "Doctrine of Fascism", that they were against Marxist socialism i.e. "in which unity within the State (which amalgamates classes into a single economic and ethical reality) is unknown, and which sees in history nothing but the class struggle." They had no problems with socialism itself, when used by the State and not against it.
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  7.  @TylerJames88  "right wing closer to the traditional right wing than liberalism. I'm correct." Wrong. Again, Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxist interpretation of socialism ("class warfare"). Instead, it advocated for class collaboration where the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions / Fascist Corporatism), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism (Neo-Hegelianism). Being an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, (which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism), its idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the State, or "embody" the State (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the State, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State." As finalized by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile ("the Doctrine of Fascism"), Fascism came from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its "dictatorship of the proletariat" cannot be achieved, and that only the State can properly organize a socialist society. Therefore, Fascism cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State.
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  8.  @TylerJames88  "You do understand that marxian socialism is the dominate form of socialism." It is just one of the many socialist theories and ideologies. Fascism was specifically invented to change and fix the "flaws" of Marxism.
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  9.  @TylerJames88  "The same socialism you are trying to connect it too lol" Marxism and socialism are two different things. I have never claimed that Fascism was Marxism.
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  10.  @TylerJames88  "Fascism is therefore opposed to Socialism to which unity within the State (which amalgamates classes into a single economic and ethical reality) is unknown, and which sees in history nothing but the class struggle."" And here they specify what kind of socialism they are against, the Marxist kind, based on the "class warfare". However you should at least have the courtesy to quote the whole paragraph when quoting the Doctrine of Fascism, as they continue: "Fascism is likewise opposed to trade unionism as a class weapon. But when brought within the orbit of the State, Fascism recognizes the real needs which gave rise to socialism and trade unionism, giving them due weight in the guild or corporative system in which divergent interests are coordinated and harmonized in the unity of the State." They had no problems with socialism as long as it was used by the State and for the purposes of the State. Marxism specifically uses socialism to sow discord within the State via proletarianism and its revolution. Already pointed this out over a month ago btw.
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  11.  @TylerJames88  "lol again I have shown many quotes where they says they are against socialism. " Again, you should learn to read. They specifically say in those quotes that they are against Marxist socialism i.e. the concept of the "class struggle", not socialism itself.
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  12.  @TylerJames88  "Csn you even explain socialism outside of Marxist philosophy? ... explain socialism outside of the Marxist philosophy. Lol. You can't. Because you have no idea what socialism is outside of Marxism" Socialism is merely an economic system where the collective (such as workers, guilds, syndicates, unions, the government etc.) either directly own or control the buildings and tools that make goods and services like farms and factories. This can be achieved through decentralized and direct worker-ownership, or through centralized state-ownership or control of the means of production. Fascism had the latter.
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  13.  @TylerJames88  : I described socialism on a general level, not Marxism which is about proletarianism and wanting to establish Communism. Also there is no such thing as "real socialism".
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  14. Wrong. Hitler was a National Socialist, not a Fascist. Both ideologies are also on the far-left and based on socialism. They have nothing to do with right wing of any kind.
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  15. No. Corporations running the government is called Corporatocracy which is the complete opposite of Fascism. The word you were looking for is Corporatism ("corporativismo" in Italian). It was one of the cornerstone principles in Mussolini's fascism, and had to do with the way society and the economy would be organized, with state power at the head of a system of nationalized syndicates ("corporazione") representing each major industry. Mussolini's corporatist view stressed total state power over businesses as much as over individuals, via these governing industry bodies controlled by the Fascist party, in which businesses retained the responsibilities of property, but few if any of the freedoms.
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  16. "Let's talk about how our capitalism system strangles the life out of its people," Nope, it doesn't. Capitalism is based on voluntarism. Nobody has to work for someone.
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  17. "the damage and death caused by companies owning everything" Damage and death such as?
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  18. "driving down living conditions to make an extra buck." Living conditions have improved across the globe and still keep improving, thanks to capitalism.
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  19. "Capitalists are the real snakes here." Nope.
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  20. @GG Little C Big Nutty : Inco rrect definition. Fa s ci sm is defined as the following: political and economic system that rejects ca pit ali sm, libe ralis m/de mocra cy, and co m mun ism, in which the means of production is organized by national wo rker syn dic als (i.e. tra de uni ons), and the guiding philosophy of the state is Actual Idealism. F asci sm didn't care about the race and was a form of tot ali tar ian soc ialis m. However fa scis m has not been a thing since the w w2 Italy.
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  21.  @lucashjelvik1738  : I know, but wo kepe dia has a wrong definition ... just like they have a wrong definition about recession now. Both Italy and Germany were AN TI pri vatiz ation. They pri vati zed nothing. On the contrary, they so ciali zed and nati onali zed almost everything, especially Germany, where everything from economics to leisure activity was under the NS D AP control.
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  22.  @lucashjelvik1738  : Except they didn't privatize, they nationalized. There is literally a word coined for their socialization, Glei chs cha lt ung.
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  23. All la bor uni ons were abolished in May 1933, replaced by the Deu tsche Arbeit sfront (DAF, or German Labor Front). The DAF created a single overarching la bor uni on. Essentially all German workers and employees in every economic sector belonged to the DAF. While traditional unions prioritized workers’ rights, the DAF emphasized national economic goals above personal well-being. In September 1933, Joseph Goebbels created the Reich Culture Chamber. It coordinated literature, music, theater, radio, film, fine arts, and the press. Only artists and writers belonging to its affiliated bodies could continue in their professions. Groups that were previously organized under political parties or labor unions—such as sports teams, music groups, and craft associations—were disbanded. The ones that remained were organized under the NS DAP. A 1934 law made the Adolf Youth the only legal youth group in Germany. 5 In 1939, participation became mandatory. All German children became exposed to NS DAP ideology from an early age. Even leisure time was coordinated according to NS DAP principles in the Strength through Joy (Kraft durch Freude) program. The program was a division of the German Labor Front. Strength through Joy offered subsidized tourism packages, music lessons, art classes, fitness opportunities, and sponsored theater and concert tickets. - United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
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  24. "When the government teams up with corporations to enrich themselves and screw and control everyone else through laws and economics." You are a bit off. What you are describing here is actually called Corporatocracy.
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  25. "Fascism is corporatism. " Corporatism ("corporativismo" in Italian) was actually how Fascism managed their socialist Command economy. It was one of the cornerstone principles in Mussolini's fascism, and had to do with the way society and the economy would be organized, with state power at the head of a system of nationalized syndicates ("corporazione") representing each major industry. Mussolini's corporatist view stressed total state power over businesses as much as over individuals, via these governing industry bodies controlled by the Fascist party, in which businesses retained the responsibilities of property, but few if any of the freedoms. Each profession and field had their own Syndicate, which in turn, operated symbiotically with its composed members, whose activities and interactions were managed and coordinated by the government. The idea was to let the state control and direct the economy from the top-down without itself owning the means of production.
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  26.  @TylerJames88  "Fascism is a negation of socialism." Wrong. Fascism was the negation of Marxism. Fascism itself was a socialist ideology, based on National Syndicalism, Statism and class collaboration, instead of the Marxist "class struggle".
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  27.  @lexter8379  : Wrong. Fascis m was an outgrowth of Sorellian Syndic alism, which itself was an outgrowth from Ma rxist socialis m. The idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the state, or "embody" the state (corpus = body). The purpose wasn't the promotion of private interest, but the centralization and synchronization of society under the state, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state." Ideologically, where the Fascis ts diverged from the Marxists was in their rejection of the narrative of class warfare, which they saw as utterly repudiated by the behavior of "the proletariat" during World War I, where rather than join together in a mutual overthrow of capitalism, the working class of each country stayed in lockstep with national loyalties and slaughtered their supposed foreign class brethren. Both the Fascists and Marxists despised classical Liberalism, and saw it as having a perverse role in atomizing the individual from society. Mussolini's favored intellectual, Giovanni Gentile, freely acknowledged Fas cism' kinship with Marxis m through Sorellian Syndicalism.
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  28.  @avus-kw2f213  : What do you mean dismissed? Corporatism is only about regimenting the society into different groups. The hypothesis that society will reach a peak of harmonious functioning when each of its divisions efficiently performs its designated function, as a body's organs individually contributing its general health and functionality, lies at the center of corporatist theory.
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  29.  @Soarcio  : What propaganda? Have you read history?
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  30.  @Soarcio  : Well almost everything was nationalized. The owners of industries could “keep” their businesses, as long as they served the directives of the state. These business owners were supervised by public officials and paid high taxes. Essentially, “private property” was no longer a thing. Statism was the key to everything, thanks to the nationalist and collectivist discourse, all the efforts of the citizens had to be in favor of the State.
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  31.  @Soarcio  : Again, what "propaganda" exactly? Have you read any ww2 history?
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  32.  @Soarcio  : Has never been ri ght win g and has nothing to do with rig ht w ng whatsoever.
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  33.  @z2z3z45  : Wrong. Fascism was never anti-socialism nor did if fight against socialism. It was anti-Marxism and fought against Marxism specifically. Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxist interpretation of socialism ("class warfare"). Instead, it advocated for class collaboration where the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions / Fascist Corporatism), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism (Neo-Hegelianism). Being an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, (which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism), its idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the State, or "embody" the State (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the State, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State." As finalized by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile ("the Doctrine of Fascism"), Fascism came from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its "dictatorship of the proletariat" cannot be achieved, and that only the State can properly organize a socialist society. Therefore, Fascism cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State. [01] "La Dottrina Del Fascismo / the Doctrine of Fascism", by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile [02] "Che cosa è il Fascismo: Discorsi e polemiche / Origins and Doctrine of Fascism", by Giovanni Gentile [03] "the Philosophy of Fascism", by Mario Palmieri [04] "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice", by Renzo De Felice [05] "Mussolini's Intellectuals", by A. James Gregor [06] "La Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni", by Rabaglietti Giuseppe & Sergio Panunzio [07] "Teoria generale dello Stato Fascista", by Sergio Panunzio [08] "The Birth of Fascist Ideology" by Zeev Sternhell [09] Any work from Emilio Gentile
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  34.  @DinoDaley-xp2eo  : It is the people like you, who are coping.
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  35. @Worldmisery "Fascism is anti-socialist and right wing." Wrong. Fascism was neither. Again, Fascism was a totalitarian far-left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on National Syndicalism which they adapted from a French Marxist, known as Georges Sorel. It rejected individualism, capitalism, liberalism, democracy, and marxist interpretation of socialism ("class warfare"). Instead, it advocated for class collaboration where the means of production was organized by national worker syndicals (i.e. trade unions / Fascist Corporatism), and the guiding philosophy of the state was Actual Idealism (Neo-Hegelianism). Being an outgrowth of Sorelian Syndicalism, (which itself was an outgrowth from Marxist socialism), its idea was that society would be consolidated (i.e., incorporated) into syndicates (in the Italian context, fascio/fasci) which would be regulated by and serve as organs for the State, or "embody" the State (corpus = body). The purpose was the centralization and synchronization of society under the State, as an end unto itself. To quote Mussolini's infamous aphorism: "All within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State." As finalized by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile ("the Doctrine of Fascism"), Fascism came from the belief that the "Stateless and Classless society" Communism calls for after its "dictatorship of the proletariat" cannot be achieved, and that only the State can properly organize a socialist society. Therefore, Fascism cared about unity in a strong central government with society being brought together by syndicalist organizations obedient to the State. [01] "La Dottrina Del Fascismo / the Doctrine of Fascism", by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile [02] "Che cosa è il Fascismo: Discorsi e polemiche / Origins and Doctrine of Fascism", by Giovanni Gentile [03] "the Philosophy of Fascism", by Mario Palmieri [04] "Fascism: An Informal Introduction to Its Theory and Practice", by Renzo De Felice [05] "Mussolini's Intellectuals", by A. James Gregor [06] "La Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni", by Rabaglietti Giuseppe & Sergio Panunzio [07] "Teoria generale dello Stato Fascista", by Sergio Panunzio [08] "The Birth of Fascist Ideology" by Zeev Sternhell [09] Any work from Emilio Gentile
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  36.  @DinoDaley-xp2eo  Cope harder and go read some history while you are at it.
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  37. @ur grandad: Nope. It is called history, kiddo.
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  38.  BNC11  "Fa sci sm is f ar rig ht populism." Incorrect. It was aut hor itari an so cial ism, so f ar-le ft ... but yes, it had som e populi sm too.
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  39.  @bleemwisspillow8686  "The latter is short and full of a nti-s ocia list sentiments. " Anti-m arx ist, not so cial ist. Fixed for you.
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  40. Hitler saw their ideology as "proper socialism". There was nothing misleading about this video though. “I have learned a great deal from Marxism as I do not hesitate to admit… The difference between them and myself is that I have really put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun. The whole of National Socialism is based on it… National Socialism is what Marxism might have been if it could have broken its absurd and artificial ties with a democratic order.” — Adolf Hitler , Hitler Speaks (1940)
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  41. "I learned as a kid that fascism is a government run by corporations" What you learned is wrong. That is the opposite of Fascism, properly known as Corporatocracy.
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  42. "I was also taught socialism is the means of production owned by the labor force (which we know is a lie) " That is one form of socialism. Socialism is an economic system where the collective (such as workers, guilds, syndicates, unions, the government etc.) either directly own or control the buildings and tools that make goods and services like farms and factories. This can be achieved through decentralized and direct worker-ownership, or through centralized state-ownership or control of the means of production.
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  43. " and communism is the means of production owned by a government or dictatorship (which is fairly accurate)." What you are referring to here is the definition of Socialism. Meanwhile there is no Government under Communism, which by definition is stateless, classless and moneyless, anarchistic and collectivist society.
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  44. @Daniel Saldanha: Maybe, but they got it right at least. Mean while most of the am u ric a n s still think that fa s ci sm has something to do with A d ol f.
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  45.  @cheesepuff65  : Wrong. Under socialism people have no rights, and Fascism was a socialist ideology.
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  46.  @Rijneke1981  "Weren't the right-wing conservatives in Chile that helped General Pinochet come to power with his military junta? Pinochet who was a supporter of Milton Friedman. Did the conservative party in Chile and Pinochet suddenly become left-wing?" Pinochet was what we could call an "authoritarian right", since while he was a neoliberal, his regime was also a military dictatorship. His policies were the exact opposite of Hitler's and Mussolini's though.
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  47. @Worldmisery "National socialism is not socialist. The nazis supported capitalism. " Wrong. National Socialism was strictly anti-capitalist ideology. By definition, National Soci alism was a totalitarian Far-Left, socialist 3rd position ideology based on ethnonationalism trying to supersede Marxism as the most common socialist ideology. You cannot be an advocate for centralized planning and strong government controls without being a socialist. That's what made Hitler a socia list. He may have been to the right from the Bolsheviks, but he was still a socialist leftist as he believed in strong central government control. Hitler outright declared himself a socialist in Mein Kampf, just not the Ma rxist international or full Soviet type. He struggled with HOW to distinguish his socialism from the rest of the Marxist crowd.
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  48. @Worldmisery "Central planning is not socialism, public ownership and taxing the rich is socialism. Patriotism is not socialism, internationalism is socialism." Central planning is a form of socialism and part of the socialist economic system. When it comes to everything else, socialism is nothing more than an economic system where the collective (such as workers, guilds, syndicates, unions, the government etc.) either directly own or control the buildings and tools that make goods and services like farms and factories. This can be achieved through decentralized and direct worker-ownership, or through centralized state-ownership or control of the means of production. National Socialists had the latter.
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  49. @Worldmisery "No, socialism is public ownership for the benefit of the community particularly poor people." Wrong. Again, socialism is nothing more than an economic system where the collective (such as workers, guilds, syndicates, unions, the government etc.) either directly own or control the buildings and tools that make goods and services like farms and factories. This can be achieved through decentralized and direct worker-ownership, or through centralized state-ownership or control of the means of production. Reasons for implementing socialism is irrelevant.
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  50. @Worldmisery " Capitalism is private ownership which primarily allows rich investors and owners to make a profit while others remain poor." Capitalism is an economic system that maintains that the production of goods and services should remain in the hands of private individuals and businesses, not governments. To be successful, these individuals will produce the goods and services needed by the public, at the prices that the public is willing to pay. The law of supply and demand will determine what goods are produced and the quantities of them that are produced. Competition among businesses will ensure quality and affordability, and the drive for greater market share will encourage innovation.
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