Comments by "John Zuma" (@johnzuma4688) on "Chris At Speakers Corner"
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cdkablan5677 You should get your knowledge about the quran up to date before you worry about the Bible my friend. Of course if you are so embarrassed by the Mohammed and the evil he approved that you try and change the subject then I can understand your questions. Here a list of the 40 different Arabic qurans that are known.
1, Qaloon Qur'an
2, Al- susi(ibn-katheer) Qur'an
3,Khaled QUR'AN
4,Idrees QUR'AN
5,warsh Qur'an
6, Hafs Ad- Dury (Abu - Amro alBasri) QUR'AN 7,Al- Laith QUR'AN
8,Al- Bazzi Qur'an
9,Al- Azraq QUR'AN
10,As - Susi (Abu Amro alBasri) QUR'AN
11,Ad - Dury(alkisa'i) QUR'AN
12, Ibn shanboodh Qur'an
13,Al- Asbahaani QUR'AN
14,Hisham QUR'AN
15,Ibn Dhakwan QUR'AN
16,Isa BinWardan QUR'AN
17,Sulayman QUR'AN
18, Ibn Jammaz QUR'AN
19,Ahmad bin Farah QUR'AN
20,Qunbul Qur'an
21,Showba QUR'AN
22, Ruwais QUR'AN
23,Shujaa' bin Abi Nasr Al- Balakhi QUR'AN
24, Abu Amro Al -Ala QUR'AN
25,Hafs QUR'AN 1924 Cairo edition
26, Sana QUR'AN
27, Al- Dury(Al Hasan AlBasri) QUR'AN
28, Hafs Al - Dury(ibn kathir) QUR'AN
29,khalf QUR'AN
30,Ishaq QUR'AN
31,Al Hasan bin Said Al- Matuu'l QUR'AN
32, Abu- Farah Al- Shan - budhi QUR'AN
33,Ibn Masud QUR'AN
34,Ubai kab QUR'AN
35, Ruh QUR'AN
36,Abu Musa QUR'AN
37,Hafs QUR'AN 1982 edition
38, Ibn Abbas QUR'AN
39,Topkapi Qur'an
40, Samarkand Kufic Qur'an
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>> Narrated Anas bin Malik: Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman came to Uthman at the time when the people of Sham and the people of Iraq were Waging war to conquer Arminya and Adharbijan. Hudhaifa was afraid of their (the people of Sham and Iraq) differences in the recitation of the Qur'an, so he said to 'Uthman, "O chief of the Believers! Save this nation before they differ about the Book (Quran) as Jews and the Christians did before." So 'Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to 'Uthman. 'Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, 'Abdullah bin AzZubair, Said bin Al-As and 'AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies. 'Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, "In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur'an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish, the Qur'an was revealed in their tongue." They did so, and when they had written many copies, 'Uthman returned the original manuscripts to Hafsa. 'Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt. Said bin Thabit added, "A Verse from Surat Ahzab was missed by me when we copied the Qur'an and I used to hear Allah's Apostle reciting it. So we searched for it and found it with Khuzaima bin Thabit Al-Ansari. (That Verse was): 'Among the Believers are men who have been true in their covenant with Allah.' (33.23) << . Sahih Bukhari 6:61:510
We read in the hadith Sahih Bukhari 6:61:510 that some 20 years after Mohammed had died, different groups of Muslims recited the quran so differently that it was feared that fights would break out between these groups as to who was reciting Mohammed's quran correctly. That shows that the memorization of the quran had failed completely just 20 years after Mohammed had died.
So Uthman compiled the quran and made it ONE quran written in ONE dialect. Uthman then burnt all the originals which means nobody today has the quran according to Mohammed.
Today we know of some 40 different Arabic versions of the quran, all written by unknown people after the time of Uthman. So the evidence is quite clear, the quran invented by Mohammed was burnt by Uthman, so nobody today knows what Mohammed actually said and the many different Arabic qurans we can buy clearly prove that all these qurans were corrupted.
And all of Uthmans qurans have been lost as well, so no-one can check what Uthman wrote. And we have Islamic sources that tell us that more than 100 verses of Surah 33 have been lost. And some sources tell us that the quran should have 111 surahs and other tell us that the quran should have 116 surahs. So did Muslims add surahs or did they delete them? So did Mohammed lie about his allah guarding the quran or was Mohammed's allah not capable of doing this?
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