Comments by "John Zuma" (@johnzuma4688) on "Chris At Speakers Corner" channel.

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  14. >> Narrated Anas bin Malik: Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman came to Uthman at the time when the people of Sham and the people of Iraq were Waging war to conquer Arminya and Adharbijan. Hudhaifa was afraid of their (the people of Sham and Iraq) differences in the recitation of the Qur'an, so he said to 'Uthman, "O chief of the Believers! Save this nation before they differ about the Book (Quran) as Jews and the Christians did before." So 'Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to 'Uthman. 'Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, 'Abdullah bin AzZubair, Said bin Al-As and 'AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies. 'Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, "In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur'an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish, the Qur'an was revealed in their tongue." They did so, and when they had written many copies, 'Uthman returned the original manuscripts to Hafsa. 'Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt. Said bin Thabit added, "A Verse from Surat Ahzab was missed by me when we copied the Qur'an and I used to hear Allah's Apostle reciting it. So we searched for it and found it with Khuzaima bin Thabit Al-Ansari. (That Verse was): 'Among the Believers are men who have been true in their covenant with Allah.' (33.23) << . Sahih Bukhari 6:61:510 We read in the hadith Sahih Bukhari 6:61:510 that some 20 years after Mohammed had died, different groups of Muslims recited the quran so differently that it was feared that fights would break out between these groups as to who was reciting Mohammed's quran correctly. That shows that the memorization of the quran had failed completely just 20 years after Mohammed had died. So Uthman compiled the quran and made it ONE quran written in ONE dialect. Uthman then burnt all the originals which means nobody today has the quran according to Mohammed. Today we know of some 40 different Arabic versions of the quran, all written by unknown people after the time of Uthman. So the evidence is quite clear, the quran invented by Mohammed was burnt by Uthman, so nobody today knows what Mohammed actually said and the many different Arabic qurans we can buy clearly prove that all these qurans were corrupted. And all of Uthmans qurans have been lost as well, so no-one can check what Uthman wrote. And we have Islamic sources that tell us that more than 100 verses of Surah 33 have been lost. And some sources tell us that the quran should have 111 surahs and other tell us that the quran should have 116 surahs. So did Muslims add surahs or did they delete them? So did Mohammed lie about his allah guarding the quran or was Mohammed's allah not capable of doing this?
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  17.  @ItsNothingAmazing  My friend, you said you wanted my sources on which I base my statements. I supplied those sources to you. Now you moves the goal posts which makes you a hypocrite. And I showed the hadith and quran verses that clearly showed that Mohammed kissed the black stone and believed that it had magical properties. Both are pagan idol god worshipping rituals and beliefs. Muslims today do the hadjj because Mohammed did the hadjj. And Mohammed did the hadjj because the pagans did the hadjj. So logically and factually islam is only a pagan idol god worshipping religion. And that Mohammed is a monotheist is irrelevant when we see that he only worshipped ONE pagan idol god represented by the “magical” black stone. And remember even Umar in effect called Mohammed a liar when Umar declared that the black stone was just a black stone. And Uthman in effect said that the quran was not divine when he burnt all the qurans based on what Mohammed had recited and replaced it with ONE quran written in only ONE dialect. And the reason Uthman did that, was because the memorization of the quran had failed completely just 20 years after Mohammed had died. You say >> Also, unlike the Bible, there's only one Qur'ān. << I is very cute that you still believe in the islamic fairy tale of the one perfectly preserved quran. Problem is that I have two very different Arabic versions of the quran right here at home. So I hold the evidence that the quran has not been preserved and that you believe a fairy tale. But my friend, do not believe me, go and buy a warsh quran and a hafs quran in Arabic and compare them. You do not even need to know much Arabic to easily see the many differences in MEANING between just these two versions of the quran. And of course you do not recite the whole quran during your prayers every day, at best you only recite a couple verses. You say >> Islam is the largest practiced religion. << That is another islamic fairy tale you believe in. The largest religion is Christianity and it will remain so for many years to come my friend. You refer to some question that you claim I have not answered. Which one was that my friend. On the other hand, you of course have not answered my simple question. Let me repeat, why do you believe that you will be with GOD in heaven on judgement day when you follow Mohammed. And do show the quran verses on which you base your belief. I take you will run again my friend?
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