Comments by "John Zuma" (@johnzuma4688) on "Chris At Speakers Corner" channel.

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  5.  FURTUNA FURTUNA  - The first logical reason why Islam is not for the whole world is that it was only presented in Arabic which was a very minor language of its time and did not even have a complete written language that could not be misinterpreted. - Secondly as the quran contradicts what the God teaches in the Bible and does not confirm what the Bible teaches as proclaimed by Mohammed, so logically it cannot be from God. - Thirdly, with Jesus dying on the cross, no further prophet was needed for all of man-kind. Which explains why Mohammed was so desperately trying to suggest that Jesus did not die on the cross for all of man-kind. Mohammed making this vague suggestion that Jesus did not die on the cross of course would mean that God had lied to all Christians for some 600 years which of course is not logical. - Fourthly, after Mohammed was rejected by the Jews in Medina, he either banished them Medina or murdered them. Clearly not something our God of the Bible would do. - Fifthly, after Mohammed had abandoned his hope of persuading the Jews in Medina to accept him as a prophet he went back to following pagan idol worship rituals like bowing down to the Kaaba when it is was full of pagan idol gods. Later going on the pilgrimage to the Kaaba when it was still of pagan idols. Mohammed kissed the black stone in the Kaaba like the pagan idol worshippers. Mohammed walked around the Kaaba like the pagan idol worshippers. And Mohammed followed the bowing down ritual in prayer just like pagan idol worshippers did. - Sixthly, Mohammed insulted God when he claimed that Jesus was not God but that he was only a prophet of God. These points all show that Mohammed was never a prophet of our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible.
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  7.  FURTUNA FURTUNA  We read that in the year 624 AD Mohammed changed the direction of prayer from Jerusalem to the Kaaba. At that time the Kaaba was a place of pagan idol worship. So Mohammed bowed down in worship to a place of pagan idol worship where some 360 idol gods were being worshipped there at that time. We know from the Bible that our God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, Ishmael and Isaac would never have condoned bowing down in worship to a place where pagan idols were being worshipped. So clearly Mohammed’s allah is not the God of Abraham, Ishmael and Isaac. So who is Mohammed’s allah who is happy to be worshipped as “the god” amongst some 360 pagan idol gods? We see that Mohammed bowed down in worship to the Kaaba when it had 360 pagan idol gods being worshipped there. We know Mohammed did his pilgrimage to the Kaaba when all these idol gods were being worshipped there. We know that Mohammed kissed the black stone just like the pagan idol worshippers did. We know that Mohammed walked around the Kaaba just like the pagan idol worshippers did. If Mohammed was not worshipping the idols in the Kaaba, he would have torn down the Kaaba and built a new mosque somewhere else in Mecca. As he did not do that, we know that his allah was one of the idol gods in the Kaaba. As the saying goes, if quacks like a duck and it waddles like a duck it must be a duck. Mohammed worshipped just like the pagan idol worshippers did and that makes him an idol worshippers. And of course one is still a monotheist if one worships only one pagan idol. But that does not change the fact that Mohammed bowed down in worship to pagan idols which makes him an idolater. So tell us all, why do you believe that following Mohammed will get you to heaven? And do remember all of Islam is only based on what Mohammed maybe recited and how he lived.
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  8.  FURTUNA FURTUNA  My friend you display your ignorance of the Bible so brilliantly. The Torah is part of the Bible and yes it was written in Hebrew and some parts were written in Aramaic. The Gospel on the other was written in Greek as that was the language used in the Roman empire at that time and there were plenty of people who could read and write Greek. And that my friend shows that the quran was never from God as it was written in Arabic a language that was not even fully developed as a written language in the middle of the 7th century. And hardly anyone knew how to read Arabic. Clearly not a language that God would use to reach the whole world. We read in that hadiths that some 20 years after Mohammed had died, different groups of Muslims recited the quran so differently that fights broke out between these groups as to who was reciting the quran correctly. So the memorization of the quran had already failed completely just 20 after Mohammed had died. Uthman then compiled a new quran based on the quran of Hafsa and the burnt all of the originals. So you do not have the original quran from Mohammed. And we read in the islamic sources that more than 100 verses of Surah 33 are missing and many other verses as well. And even the qurans written by Uthman have all been lost. So nobody know what Mohammed or Uthman ever really wrote in the qurans. But we read that Uthman wrote only one quran in one dialect. Yet today we can buy more than 30 different Arabic qurans. So we know that they are all corrupted. And I have two Arabic qurans here at home and they have many verses in them that should be the same but they are different. Clearly my friend you have been told a fairy tale about the perfectly preserved quran, especially as many sections in the quran make more sense when you read them in Aramaic.
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  25.  @IjtabaAli-q1p  You say >> you have so much misinformation about Islam. << So tell me, what “misinformation” are you referring to? Or don’t you have any which is why you want to change the subject? You say >> Which bible do you follow? << I use a number of translations, so which version of the quran do you use? I have two Arabic versions of the quran right here at home. You say >> Catholic bible or Protestant bible which has 7 less books? << There is no difference between them in what GOD teaches there. So you can use any one. And both are available on the internet in a number of translations. So again, which version of the quran do you use and why that one? You say >> Abraham had slave-girl so did Jacob had two slave-girls. << You think that is not known?? After all Ishmael that is the father of Mohammed came from the slave women. That is why only the descendents if Isaac are the true line of Abraham. That makes Mohammed a false prophet. No Christian or Jews follows Abraham or Jacob today or see them as an example to follow. On the other Muslims today consider Mohammed to be THE example to follow. From the islamic sources we know that after Mohammed moved to Medina he lived the life of a war-lord who robbed, raped, committed adultery and child abuse (when he raped a 9 year old child), he also murdered and tortured for financial gain and he enslaved women and little children. If that is the best example islam had to offer then islam is not worth following. Now tell me, why do you believe that YOU will be with GOD our Father in heaven on judgement day, when you follow Mohammed? And remember if there are no clear quran verses that promise you a place in heaven with GOD our Father, then islam is the straight path to hell.
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  30.  FURTUNA FURTUNA  We read that in the year 624 AD Mohammed changed the direction of prayer from Jerusalem to the Kaaba. At that time the Kaaba was a place of pagan idol worship. So Mohammed bowed down in worship to a place of pagan idol worship where some 360 idol gods were being worshipped there at that time. We know from the Bible that our God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, Ishmael and Isaac would never have condoned bowing down in worship to a place where pagan idols were being worshipped. So clearly Mohammed’s allah is not the God of Abraham, Ishmael and Isaac. So who is Mohammed’s allah who is happy to be worshipped as “the god” amongst some 360 pagan idol gods? We see that Mohammed bowed down in worship to the Kaaba when it had 360 pagan idol gods being worshipped there. We know Mohammed did his pilgrimage to the Kaaba when all these idol gods were being worshipped there. We know that Mohammed kissed the black stone just like the pagan idol worshippers did. We know that Mohammed walked around the Kaaba just like the pagan idol worshippers did. If Mohammed was not worshipping the idols in the Kaaba, he would have torn down the Kaaba and built a new mosque somewhere else in Mecca. As he did not do that we know that his allah was one of the idol gods in the Kaaba. As the saying goes, if quacks like a duck and it waddles like a duck it must be a duck. Mohammed worshipped just like the pagan idol worshippers did and that makes him an idol worshippers. And of course one is still a monotheist if one worships only one pagan idol. But that does not change the fact that Mohammed bowed down in worship to pagan idols which makes him an idolater. PS: Not one of the prophets of the Bible bowed down in worship to the Kaaba. They did not pray 5 times a day. They did not follow the pagan idol worship rituals followed by Mohammed. Mohammed never worshiped our Almighty God of the Bible which is the ONE TRUE GOD worshiped by all the prophets of the Bible.
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  31.  FURTUNA FURTUNA  We read that in the year 624 AD Mohammed changed the direction of prayer from Jerusalem to the Kaaba. At that time the Kaaba was a place of pagan idol worship. So Mohammed bowed down in worship to a place of pagan idol worship where some 360 idol gods were being worshipped there at that time. We know from the Bible that our God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, Ishmael and Isaac would never have condoned bowing down in worship to a place where pagan idols were being worshipped. So clearly Mohammed’s allah is not the God of Abraham, Ishmael and Isaac. So who is Mohammed’s allah who is happy to be worshipped as “the god” amongst some 360 pagan idol gods? We see that Mohammed bowed down in worship to the Kaaba when it had 360 pagan idol gods being worshipped there. We know Mohammed did his pilgrimage to the Kaaba when all these idol gods were being worshipped there. We know that Mohammed kissed the black stone just like the pagan idol worshippers did. We know that Mohammed walked around the Kaaba just like the pagan idol worshippers did. If Mohammed was not worshipping the idols in the Kaaba, he would have torn down the Kaaba and built a new mosque somewhere else in Mecca. As he did not do that we know that his allah was one of the idol gods in the Kaaba. As the saying goes, if quacks like a duck and it waddles like a duck it must be a duck. Mohammed worshipped just like the pagan idol worshippers did and that makes him an idol worshippers. And of course one is still a monotheist if one worships only one pagan idol. But that does not change the fact that Mohammed bowed down in worship to pagan idols which makes him an idolater.
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  32.  FURTUNA FURTUNA  We read that in the year 624 AD Mohammed changed the direction of prayer from Jerusalem to the Kaaba. At that time the Kaaba was a place of pagan idol worship. So Mohammed bowed down in worship to a place of pagan idol worship where some 360 idol gods were being worshipped there at that time. We know from the Bible that our God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, Ishmael and Isaac would never have condoned bowing down in worship to a place where pagan idols were being worshipped. So clearly Mohammed’s allah is not the God of Abraham, Ishmael and Isaac. So who is Mohammed’s allah who is happy to be worshipped as “the god” amongst some 360 pagan idol gods? We see that Mohammed bowed down in worship to the Kaaba when it had 360 pagan idol gods being worshipped there. We know Mohammed did his pilgrimage to the Kaaba when all these idol gods were being worshipped there. We know that Mohammed kissed the black stone just like the pagan idol worshippers did. We know that Mohammed walked around the Kaaba just like the pagan idol worshippers did. If Mohammed was not worshipping the idols in the Kaaba, he would have torn down the Kaaba and built a new mosque somewhere else in Mecca. As he did not do that we know that his allah was one of the idol gods in the Kaaba. As the saying goes, if quacks like a duck and it waddles like a duck it must be a duck. Mohammed worshipped just like the pagan idol worshippers did and that makes him an idol worshippers. And of course one is still a monotheist if one worships only one pagan idol. But that does not change the fact that Mohammed bowed down in worship to pagan idols which makes him an idolater.
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  37. Surah 9:29 Sahih International >> Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled. « Here we read that Mohammed demanded the following: - Fight those who do not believe in allah, that means all Non-Muslims which make up about 75% of the world population. (Jews and Christians do not believe in Mohammed’s allah but in the Almighty God of the Bible.) - Fight those who do not believe in the Last Day, that means all people who are not Muslim, Christians or Jewish. - Fight those who consider lawful what Mohammed and his allah have declared unlawful. That makes up all Non-Muslims. - Fight those who do not adopt Islam as true from the Jews and Christians. That part can be applied to all the points beforehand, even though the verse is written so badly that it is not clear what the writer actually wanted to say. But it does demand that all Jews and Christians must be fought and killed who reject Islam. So in effect Mohammed demands that at least all Jews and Christians must be fought which implies killing them unless they surrender to Islam and they pay protection money to the Islamic invaders who have occupied their country whilst being humiliated. That implies that they must submit to Islamic rule and agree to be oppressed second class citizens in their own country. What we do not see in this verse is that Muslims should fight only in defence or against traitors of Islam. When we then see that in Islam the world is divided into the house of Islam and the house of war, then we see that Islam views itself at being at war with all Non-Islamic society unless they have a treaty with them. And that as we know is not the case with “the West”. And of course anyone who leaves Islam is considered a traitor and therefore also needs to be fought and killed.
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  47.  @SunOfG0D  You say >> God is infinite and his names are therefore endless. The value of a name is only the meaning that we derive from it. << That is actually a very good description of how humans decide what a pagan idol god is the meaning. So yes, GOD is eternal, and that is the case for our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible. And our GOD of the Bible tells us HIS name. So can you tell me the name of Mohammed’s “the god”? You say >> With the semitic languages - we can derive many meanings from related root words - so Allah would derive meaning from وله (walah) << Actually it does not. The root is “lh” which is a contraction of “al-ilah” which refer to “the deity” with the loss of the initial hamza after the definite article “al”. You say >> which translates to endless love/irresistable attraction which can only be found in God << You show your confusion as “god” is a common noun and not a name. And certainly Mohammed’s “the god” is not a god of love and attraction. In fact we see in the hafs version of the quran that Mohammed’s “the god” approves of evil such as raping women captured in battle (surah 33:50) and wife beating “(surah 4:34) and child marriage (surah 65:4) which means that Mohammed and his allah approved of raping little prepubescent girls (those who have not menstruated) which is pure evil my friend and certainly not endless love or attraction. And yes, endless love for us is found in the GOD of the Bible which proves that Mohammed’s “the god” is NOT our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible. You say >> true worship can only be experienced when directed to God and no other. << So you admit that Muslims do not do true worship as they do not direct their worship to our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible but only to Mohammed’s “the god”. You say >> I personally disagree with anyone who says Allah means "the God" << My friend, I do not care what you personally agree or disagree with. In the Arabic the word “allah” means “the god”. You say >> as even the word God has it's unique etymology << the word “god” is a common known and refers to any god. So when the ancient Greeks referred to “the god” they would have referred to Zeus and the pagan idol god worshippers in Mecca called their pagan moon god “allah”. Or are you saying that Mohammed’s “allah” is actually the pagan moon god worshipped by the pagans in Mecca? Now tell me, why do you believe that YOU will be with GOD our Father in heaven on judgement day, when you follow Mohammed? And remember if there are no clear quran verses that promise you a place in heaven with GOD our Father, then islam is the straight path to hell.
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