Comments by "Alan hat" (@alanhat5252) on "A Different Bias"
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@craign2565 it's not, at heart, about left or right, it's about class.
The Torys are the Cavaliers who supported the King in the Civil Wars, they're the barons who drew their power from the King. This has changed over the years as the source of power has changed & it's transitioning at the moment from big business to hedgefunds & think-tanks.
Labour on the other hand are only just over a century old & derive their power from Trades Unions & their ability to bring the country to a halt, they're working class.
Starmer's wing are extremists within the wider party & they've forgotten their power base, they're relying on Israel's influence within politics & Press & they're relying on the Party's Central Office who are also under Israel's whip. They're poaching votes from the Torys. Again there's a transition going on, the membership are deciding whether to re-centre the political wing or abandon it & start a new party.
Obviously it's not that simple but that's an overview of the undercurrents.
From this I hope you can see that both parties have space for both right-wing & left-wing views.
Beyond that FPTP narrows the choice to 2 even though the field is much wider, people vote for perceived authority or comradeship. On the Tory side the only competition in England (where most voters are) is Farage's party (whatever it's called this week, Reform I think) which is why the Torys have shifted to poach Farage's votes.
On Labour's side there's the LibDems, Greens, Communists Women's Party & dozens of others all taking votes from each other so Torys win most elections even though they're the least representative of all the parties.
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@Chris-xl6pd the 2 party system started during the Civil Wars 400 years ago, the 2 partys were Torys & Whigs, both are still in Parliament.
Torys kept their name & are currently in Government but the Whigs didn't become Labour, they became the Liberals, then the LibDems.
Labour are a new party, just over 100 years old, actually a coalition of several parties, mostly Labour & Cooperative, & from their ranks another party formed 30 years ago, New Labour, who are currently in Opposition.
At the next election another completely separate party stands a chance, they already have 3 people in Parliament & lots in Local Government, the Green Party of England & Wales (Scotland already has lots of Greens)
So you can see new parties do come through sometimes & perhaps now is the time for the next one?
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