Comments by "Zrips" (@Zripas) on "Donut" channel.

  1.  @ningendaggermouth  Inferiority complex? Buying new car is inferiority complex? Buying better cars is inferiority complex? Weird thing to say, but ok, you do you. And you do know that hydrogen cars are hell of a expensive ones with quite high maintenance costs? Right? Its not like you can get one for 10k and have 0 on maintenance costs...
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  2.  @ningendaggermouth  Its interesting that you mentioned 20k limit and then talked about 60k car. You do realize that majority of new cars independent of their fuel type costs over 20k? And how exactly is having money to buy car which costs over 20k is inferiority complex... inferiority complex is when you buy 500k car which isn't practical, fits only 2 people, creates excessive amount of noise and so on, but not 25k one...
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  3.  @ningendaggermouth  "As I said no sane person will dump $60k into a hydrogen car...or a shitty plastic Jeep" But this is not what you said, you said that people in general who pays more than 20k for a car have inferiority complex. It wasn't about hydrogen cars, it wasn't about poorly made cars, it was general statement of yours. "And you can still buy solid cars for under $20k" Yes, just like you could buy one for 100 bucks if you really wanted... Like, what actual point are you trying to make here? Car prices does have wide range, some are overpriced, some are not. New car for 20k or less will be some cheap tiny box "car". Can you get used one for that or less which is in good condition? Yes, but has no impact on actual point. "dumping more money into something which purpose is to drive you around the city and that will usually depreciate the moment you start driving it, is dumb" Tell me this then, from which magical place do you think used cars come from? Your magical 20k car was owned by someone before which drives price down over few years allowing you to buy it cheaper, years later. Welcome to economics 101. "instead of investing money they waste it on some stupid ass status symbol "white Mercedes" just to show the world "how successful they are"" ? Are you here just being jealous that someone can actually buy new Mercedes while you can't? Seriously... It so weird... Its like people can't spend their money in a way they want... If someone makes 500k in a year, I think they should be able to buy a car for 50k without you attempting to make fun of them for "wasting" money... Are you one of those who buys used toilet paper because buying new one would just be inferiority complex? "People are driven by the desire for others to envy them and they make wrong decisions" Or people simply wants cool stuff? "more and more cars are being repossessed because the idiots can't make the payments for their overpriced cars" And? "(and they are currently still the most inefficient no matter how much the author of this video would like to present it otherwise)" Like, care to present actual factual numbers to show that those are inefficient? Because by all actual scientific research ever done it was shown that BEV's are the most efficient ones. So like, on what basis can you make such wild statement? "Once I actually get my own home and save some money I would then and only then trade up from my current Dacia Sandero but the next car will still cost me under 20k and I'll enjoy driving it and laugh whenever I see an idiot driving a Bentley, a new Porsche 911 or a freaking G-class" ??? So your entire point is that YOU can't afford better car currently and YOU will spend money appropriate to what YOU can afford, while YOU will laugh at those who CAN afford better cars while saying that YOU will buy better one when YOU will be able to afford one... What's going on here?... Is your entire point "Don't buy car you can't afford" by making it overly complex? "so no it doesn't only have to be a 500k hyper car for someone to be a perfect example of an inferiority complex." Correct, but you should learn to avoid making general statement when you are talking about exceptions... I'm not even arguing against the fact that some people who barely survives from payslip to payslip decides to go on vacation or buys expensive stuff just to boast to their friends. But this doesn't have anything to do with some people buying more expensive cars when they can afford one.
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  4.  @ningendaggermouth  "I had to stop reading when you pulled the oh so predictable jealousy card" Because you sound like someone who is jealous of people who can afford more expensive cars... "who dumped insane amount of money into his crappy Ferrari, Porsche, some ugly Aston Martin SUV and a G wago" But we are not even talking about Ferrari here, we are talking about 20k+ cars, which is extremely cheap when it comes to cars in general, especially new ones. "because you can buy a good personal city car for under 20k" Yes, you could, or you could buy more expensive one if you have money... You could even buy a bicycle and avoid owning car in general... But it's non argument. "and everything above it is just people stroking their fragile egos" So they simply have money to spare?... Not everyone in the world are poor you know... Some can actually afford slightly more expensive cars, especially if they want to buy new one and not the one owned by 10 previous owners. "but if that's the only option that you see for that price that's your problem" That's the thing, its your problem. By your logic you should never buy anything more expensive than 500 bucks, because that car could serve your needs too... But there is the difference between buying car just to get from point A to point B and getting car which can do it allot more comfortably for more money. "meaning even if I could afford it I would never buy one or anything in that price range" Even if you were making 10 million in a year? You would not want to have a nice new unused car which provides all the comfort and features you could get? "to drive around the crowded Euro city" That's the funny thing, you could (in US you can) get something like Tesla BEV with FSD which would drive for you, you could relax and enjoy actual trip. Would that be a flex or buying something for your own convenience? Especially if you can afford it. "because I will do me and stay true to my values no matter the amount on my bank account" That's fine... You do you, issue is just with your incorrect statements here... Will clarify something here. Ironically enough I'm looking for a new car and I'm looking for something in a price range of 15k, was thinking about max 10k initially, but due to how low quality those cars are with barely any newer features I would like to get, had to go slightly higher. Which is basically max what I would be ready to give for my next car. Its not like I can't afford more expensive one, I can, its just that there is no point to do so for me personally. Main thing for me is to get newer car with more modern technology in it for to last like 10+ years before it starts to become completely outdated across the board. If I could I would drive single car for my entire live, but car's do break and at some point there is no longer a point to keep fixing it. Point is, if someone is buying new/used car which is more expensive than YOU can afford, this doesn't mean that they are trying to flex, maybe, just maybe they can afford it and they want to own that car and it is beneficial to them. Additionally. Buying BEV which initial cost is higher than ICE car can be more money saving than buying cheaper ICE one due to lack of maintenance costs and cheaper "fuel". So my question would be: Is it really a flex to buy a car which saves you more money in long run?
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  5. Hydrogen had its chance to take off, now every single company prioritizes BEV's over any hydrogen car, its too late, Hydrogen might only become relevant things in sectors where energy density is big criteria
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  6. But its not, isn't it? Hydrogen car sales are dwindling, while at same time being replaced with BEV's sales, which are on quite steep growth curve at the moment
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  7.  @modelaircraft6576  Its not really question of you being ready, at some point you wont be allowed to drive ICE car in public roads as much as you would like it, its on same exact line as it is now with horses, while you can still ride those, you cant really go to work on one. Europe bans new ICE car sales from 2035, so while it might take some time to take out existing ICE cars from the roads at some point you wont have real option besides buying EV's.
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  8. Reminder that hydrogen in its pure form doesn't exist on earth and you actually need to make it by introducing crap ton of power into entire process. Reminder that biggest lithium exporter is Australia. Reminder: Fact check.
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  9.  @IraFox84  Yes, it is stupid point to say that EVs need energy when hydrogen needs around 60% MORE of it... So yea, it is stupid point... How much pollution does lithium mining causes in comparison to how much pollution hydrogen production causes? Just FYI biggest source of hydrogen at this moment is natural gas. Yes, maybe fact check yourself.
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  10. That would be quite inefficient with added complexity with bunch of inconvenient things. Having 2 expensive cars put into one will not make it better solution.
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  11. Because hydrogen refueling stations are 100% different. While those might look externally similar, all the internals are 100% different. So in general its cheaper to build new one than to try to replace old one when everything needs to be changed.
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  12. If road cant handle 2,003 kg car then you seriously need to rethink quality of your roads...
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  13. Then go and buy one... If you want hydrogen cars then you will have to actually buy one... So have you?
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  14.  @emprr_  Because no one wants to buy hydrogen cars. This is why BEV's won over Hydrogen, you can plug those at your house and have it always full and to build charging station is relatively cheap. Hydrogen had its opportunity to become a thing, it failed, that's it. If it could not overtake market when BEV's have not been viable option, it has no chances to do it now when battery chemistry improves every single year, prices of those go down and we are getting more and more companies producing BEV's and miniscule amount of Hydrogen options.
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  15. How? By laying down basic facts?... Like, which part of this videos was false? And include explanation why its false.
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  16.  @Dreamriderindia5678  Said who? Because we have studies which shows that BEV's produce slightly less pollution than Hydrogen over its lifespan. You never fact checked this? Didn't you?
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  17.  @Dreamriderindia5678  You will have option to buy ICE cars for quite some time... Start complaining about it when you will no longer be able to get hands on one and then try to complain about price issues, if there will be any.
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  18.  @Dreamriderindia5678  Fact remain that we HAVE to transition to sustainable alternatives here, you want it or not, but oil is limited and it WILL run out sooner or later. Ban on new ICE cars being sold should start in 2035, so its 11 years away. This is only in Europe, which means that you can still import new cars from different countries and sell those as "used" even if those have only 2 miles driven. And then you will have additional 10+ years before last legally sold new cars become outdated. So its a possible issue which might be and issue in like 20'ish years from now in Europe... No one is banning ICE cars, there will only be limited access to new ones as we have to stop polluting environment if we want to keep living on this planet.
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  19.  @Dreamriderindia5678  European country, one of those which will get this ICe car ban in 2035 if that law remains active until then and not postponed.
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  20. Is it tho? You forgot to actually compare ranges from that full tank... Longest range with hydrogen is around 400 miles, while with petroleum car (ford focus) it would be around 1000. So you need to actually check price per mile and not just price per fill up.
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  21. Actual smart people did actual comparison on which cars pollute how much and BEV's came first as cleanest ones. Just a reminder that batteries can and are being recycled to make new ones which could be done or less indefinitely. And... Water isint fuel, hydrogen is, to get hydrogen from water you need to actually process it and that processing will cost you quite a bit and it will create extra pollution on its own.
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  22. That movie is from 2006 which could have applied to that time as you had basically zero BEV options, doesn't really have any value now tho.
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  23. Doesn't that same thing applies to BEV's? At the end of the day you still need around 60% more electricity to drive same distance with hydrogen car than you would with BEV. This is not even accounting additional complexities and costs involving entire hydrogen eco-system. Hydrogen is only somewhat viable for bigger transportations, like buses, semi, trains, ships, planes, but not for small passenger cars.
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  24. Youdo need electricity to produce hydrogen, and quite a bit more of that too... Even in comparison to hydrogen fuel cells you will need around 60% more electricity for same traveled distance. This doesn't even include the fact that you need to transport and store and distribute this hydrogen. It's a lot worse than you think...
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  25. @raymondjmcclain First law of thermodynamics makes your idea fictional at best. Electrolysis requires MORE electricity than you will ever had back from created hydrogen, so its non option.
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  26. We gonna recycle them by... Recycling them... Like what is your actual question here? We have bunch of companies already dealing with batter recycling and more underway.
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  27. Well true, for it to flop it would have needed to be a thing in the first place.
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  28. You still need to store it, transport it, store it again, then you can fill up your car and use it. There is huge energy loss on top of huge maintenance costs for all of this process. Just imagine trucks with 5000psi hydrogen tankers crossing city streets... "No Smoking" signs would be in 5 mile radius each time one gets noticed in the horizon.
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  29.  @IraFox84  EV's, some people actually did the math for end to end and how much pollution each of them causes. BEV's still won, to be fair, not by much, but still won. But what is interesting with you people is that it always ends up with "BuT Ev'S aRe BaD!11!1!" while commenting under video talking about hydrogen cars... Can you stick to the topic?...
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  30. Hydrogen even if it will improve it won't improve on same pace as BEV's does and due to extra complexity involved in this entire Hydrogen deal thing, it doesn't really have real chance to become anything more than niche thing for narrow use cases where energy density is more important than anything else.
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  31. EV's are most efficient from all the alternatives, so no idea how that makes them not efficient. Batteries can be and are recycled. You complaining about some countries exploiting their people is only that, some countries exploiting people, which is not related to BEV's, on top of that, for example biggest lithium exporter is Australia. You have this video which shows car with 3 huge hydrogen tanks, its range is around 400 miles. No idea how can you get additional 200 miles easily here...
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  32. False, like demonstrably false... BEV's can be charge at your house at night with your preset schedule when electricity prices are at lowest and every single day you will have full "tank" where 99% of users will never have a need to use superchargers. Its a mute complain...
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  33. You do know that hydrogen cars have their tanks with printed on expiration dates? Right? And for the battery, BEV's usually give you warranty on those for quite some time, in some cases it can be 10 years or 100k miles. You should actually look all this up before you start talking about it.
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  34. Hydrogen kind of works in things like buses, as you will have centralized hydrogen refueling place and buses generally have more than enough space to have those huge hydrogen tanks in them. Sadly this doesn't work for private passenger cars.
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  35. Biggest exporter of lithium is Australia... Hydrogen cars have their own list of issues, long list of issues, looooooong list of issues.
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  36.  @ZACKARDO  No, he is right, hydrogen cars are electric cars. Hydrogen is just a fuel to charge batteries in that car which will then use its power to turn motors. Difference between hydrogen fuel cell car and pure BEV is that hydrogen car will have smaller battery while containing 3 hyge hydrogen tanks to be used to charge that battery. Its electric car with extra steps.
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  37. First hydrogen combustion engine was invented in 1806, first hydrogen fuel cell was invented in 1966. How much more time do you need?
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  38. Its less green than BEV, ironically.
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  39. Home fueling?
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  40. BEV's you can charge at home or from any outlet out there, you can set schedule to charge your car when electricity supply is cheapest, this includes renewables. You don't need expensive and complex infrastructure to produce, transport and store hydrogen. Hydrogen doesn't appear from thin air, you are spending around 60% more energy from end to end to drive hydrogen car in comparison to BEV... And so on... There is only single benefit of Hydrogen at this moment, its energy density, other than this its losses on all fronts.
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  41.  @Mingothadingo  Nano carbon tube batteries are in extreme early development, while we can create few of those on tiny scale, there is still needs to be made scalable process, which could take decade or two, but tech is here already, it's an issue with scalability, just like hydrogen. Issue is that we have to transition to some sort of alternative. Hydrogen could have worked as middle step between gas and batteries like 20 years ago, but now, there is no point anymore. To build one hydrogen station costs around 1 million bucks, to build one BEV charging station costs around 50k, lets assume that you need 30 minutes of charging BEV and 5 minutes to fill up hydrogen car, which would be 6:1 ratio, so we are still looking at 300k to 1million, its still 3x more expensive to build hydrogen stations. This excludes actual maintenance costs, and believe me, those are huge for hydrogen ones. Top this with the fact that any wall socket can be your charging point only means that hydrogen doesn't really have much chances here to be anything more than someones expensive hobby. Hydrogen sounds only cool on paper, but sadly it doesn't scale when you start looking into it from start to end.
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  42. And this is why its not future as no one will invest billions in construction and billions in maintenance of those stations before there are enough cars to use it, and there wont be enough cars if there are no refueling stations.
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  43. What?
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  44. @mamuebav Will put it in simple terms. To travel, lets say, 100km, you will need 60% more electricity for hydrogen car than you will need for BEV. Why? Because producing hydrogen takes crap ton of power and then converting hydrogen back to electricity has its own efficiency losses. This adds up quickly. And BEV batteries can be recycled fully and reused to make new batteries more or less infinite amount of times, so once lithium is mined it will be used over and over and over and over again for battery production.
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  45. We are getting new battery chemistries every single year, multiple of those, and this will only increase with more interest in new battery chemistries we will get. So no, we will not run out of resources to make batteries, like seriously, check actual reserves of those resources needed to make current generation batteries, those increased multiple times because there was a need to find new mining locations for those.
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  46. What happens if oil runs out? What happens if there wont be any fresh water to be used for hydrogen production? What happens when sun goes supernova?... If materials start to run out, you can have your question, until then, its not an issue and you can always recycle existing ones.
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  47.  @chrismayer3919  This is why we are starting to shift towards renewables before oil runs out... At the moment best option is BEV's, because hydrogen cars ONLY sound good on paper and isn't scalable in reality.
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  48. There are situations when you need that extra speed, you might not need 0-60 in 3 seconds, but like when you need to merge with faster moving trafit, that extra umph helps allot.
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  49. Cleaner is better, best would be distilled water. This is why majority of hydrogen at this moment is being acquired from natural gas.
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  50. You think that BEV's cost you more in taxes than it would by switching towards eFuel?... Naive are we?
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