Comments by "F Liu" (@F_Liu) on "Geopolitical Economy Report"
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Eventually, it would be all round losses for the US, potentially losing a massive exporting market of 20% of world population, once the market will be lost, it will be lost for good. As a Chinese, I think the decoupling by the US will be good for China on the long term, this will force China to develop and upgrade its own technology needs, and no longer rely on the US/West, as the US is increasingly becoming unreliable and untrustworthy. Already, Chinese people are buying more home brands, which offer value and quality. Sanctioning China will be in effect the US sanctioning itself.
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@robertcox14 ''Nixon met Mao in 1971/72 and a deal was made and Western companies were encouraged to move manufacturing to China.'' I bet they (your government and media) have never told you the most important incentive for the visit was getting China on the US side in helping the US to win the cold war against Soviet Union. And why was the US/West encouraging its capitalists to move manufacturing to China? Because of your government's Neoliberal economic policies, an ultra liberal capitalistic policy where profit making became your capitalists main driving goal, or in other words, the greed of your capitalists hollowed out your own manufacturing industry (you can't blame China). Your capitalists went to China to take advantages of the competitive and well trained Chinese labour for their own material and monetary gains. Btw, China DOES have labour laws and regulations, factories with sub par working conditions and pay would be fined and punished, don't buy into the anti China propaganda that China doesn't care about its workers, plus, first and foremost the Western companies that subcontracted the facilities should take care of its workers, if they failed to then that reflects badly on them, not the Chinese government.
Meng Wanzhou is not one of the ''Chinese oligarchs'', again Western projection. The truth is Capitalists in China can be extremely wealthy (they are perfectly allowed to by per governmental policy) but they have zero say in policy making and politics of China, unlike in the US/West.
I agree to a large extend, foreign investments contributed greatly to the Chinese economy as they provided jobs for hundreds of millions of people, but it can in no way claim all the credit for the Chinese economical transformation, in fact, what happened is both the result of Chinese government's pragmatic economic policy and the US' need to cooperate with China in order to win the cold war. It was a win-win.
And finally, China is NOT the next ''globalists'' project. What it basically did was beaten the US/West in its own game, that's why the US is so upset, the Chinese socialist model is helping ordinary people prosper whereas the Western capitalists greed is making the people poorer.
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@robertcox14 China is NOT an imperialist power, if it is then, you've just altered the definition of ''imperialism''. At least I have not heard imperialists building schools, hospitals, railways and other essential infrastructure in developing countries NOT for the sole purpose of exploiting its resources as the US/West has done. And with ONE military base, it would be hard for China to run an empire. China is only interested in mutual beneficial trade and business cooperation, it has no intention to run the world as a world police.
China's pollution (partly due to being the world's factory) is getting better, thanks to China's commitment to alternative energy consumption. The hypocritical West has a way worse historical record on pollution, and per capita, yet not doing half as much as China to combat climate crisis.
As a Chinese, I am happy to inform you of the reality of China, or you could learn from Ben, all you need to do is keeping an open mind...
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@mikeyrose4183 While you are entitled to your opinions about the Chinese nation and its people based on your personal experience and observations, I can't help to sense your deep bias and ignorance against China. Your knowledge about China is clearly outdated, and hubris and boasting is the least thing one would associate with the Chinese, the Chinese hardly ever brag about their achievements, because humility and self reflection is part of their culture, they always look forward to future improvement, and are never satisfied with what they have now. These are just facts.
Have you seen a Chinese branded EV lately? Have you travelled on a Chinese high speed train lately? Have you experienced the fast and well covered (mobile) internet infrastructure, seen an architect subway station or a new modern airport? Have you learned about the Chinese space exploration programme, their success rate of sending rockets into space, their space station modules? Have you checked out China's latest military innovation? It is very obvious you try your best to dismiss China's success, from an extremely poor semi colonised country to a fully industrialised world 2nd largest economy in just 40 years (no other country on this earth has done the same). Oh, by the way, not so long ago, before European aggression against China in the 1800s, Chinese products (silk, tea, porcelain, and many more) were among the most sought after products of the Western world (not to mention the ancient Chinese inventions that the West took for granted for, gunpower, paper making, printing, compass)... and all the way back to the Han dynasty (200BC) when merchants were trading Chinese goods through the silk road... The West, got their riches to start industrialisation from looting the raw material and resources from Africa, Latin America, Asia, including the silver they used to pay to the Chinese. Russia was a part of the European gang of empires who looted and invaded China too.
So no, I won't accept your view about Chinse people lack creativity, the Chinese know full well how important innovation and industrialization is in keeping them independent from Western exploitation... China has been the top country for many years in a row, to file most new patents.
But anyway, China never needs approval and recognition from anyone. You have a lot to learn about China. People can see through your ignorance and bias in an instance, as I said, we are not stupid, we know the facts.
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@khoi pham cao Overtook the US by a thousand times or more for the lives saved by China's Covid measures, clearly all the lives lost in the West don't mean much to you typical of someone who supports Western neoliberal capitalism where money is always placed before lives.
Your dollars could be worthless in an instance because it is backed by literally nothing (toilet paper), whereas Yuan is backed by solid manufacturing capability and physical gold, look at which country is the biggest trading partner of most countries in the world, yes, that's China. China dominates world trade and (advanced) manufacturing, half of the Western shopping malls would be empty if China stops exporting. Btw, Australian iron ore companies (Australia's pillar industry) trade with China in Yuan, and they begged China for this, Russia trades in Yuan supplying huge volume of high demand resources to China. And Saudi Arabia could kick start the Petroyuan any day, just don't want upset the US too soon, lol. It is the type of goods and amount being traded in Yuan that matter. China is doing a favour for most countries to trade in Dollars because it is easier for them, but everyone knows once it is ditched as a currency for trade, it is worth nothing.
About your other "points", my friend already addressed them very well in his reply, you are right in a way, China has never dominated and will never dominate the world, not in the same way as how the US has been doing (world police), but on trade, infrastructure development and development of some advanced science and technologies, China already dominates. Conclusion, you need a reality check ✔
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@kphamcao "I have heard top talents wanting to go to the US. Nobody want to go to China." This again, is not reality, I guess you didn't hear recently some 1400 Chinese scientists are leaving America for China, btw, Chinese (born and educated in China) scientists dominates the technology scene in the US, surely that doesn't make America look too good, it actually confirms China's ability to produce talents cannot be matched by the West. Anyway, keep your Anglo centric vision, if that make you feel better. You might just be another one of this self hating Asians, whereas most Asians feel more pride with China's rise, instead, you call this " grandiosity compex", lol. Last time I checked, it is the Westerners who tend to suffer superiority complex.
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@kphamcao These ''Chinese'' scientists don't need me convincing them to return to China, they make their own choices where they want to work and pay taxes, but that still does not change the fact that China's education system gave them the competitive edge and a solid foundation to do well wherever they choose to be.
Did you read my comment properly? I said most Asians feel positive about China's rise, as they overall benefit from this, as explained in my comment, and again I have never asked you to ''like'' or ''love'' China, or anything it does, you are the one who keeping interpreting that way and feeling somehow I am asking you to like China, again where have I even hinted that I think all Asians must like China. But it is a fact, most Chinese people who hate China doing well are self hating Chinese. I met many of them.
''None of China's neighbor harbor any love for China. Among the debt traps, the condescending attitude, the constant sea harassment, the hypocrisy to complain about the US while attempting to do the exact same things. I could go on for days. It is you who need to meet reality.'' This is again, not reality, but mostly Western anti China talking points, and there is no such country as ''China loving'' country, there is only countries who love its self interests, so what they do is to strike a balance between ''loving'' China and the West for its own self interests, but evidence tells me no China's Asian neighbours want to pick a clear stand with the West, and all of them want to benefit from a rising China, and this is all the reality I need to know.
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