Comments by "Kora Na" (@korana6308) on "Sandboxx"
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@ again and again. Prototyping and pre series stage is different to the actual series craft that has entered service officially. So comparing the 2 types of crafts is not correct. It doesn't matter what caused it, it's still a crash. That's the point.
And thank you for finally mentioning that "loss" , as that "loss" turned out to not be a loss. And yes all of the propagandists were claiming that it as a loss lol, and there were no way for me to tell the truth, because they would just ban it lol. So I was watching it unfold in real time, and watching all of the propagandists spewing the same propaganda about it without the actual facts lol. None of the crafts were lost, one went for repairs and is now flying on an active duty.
But I knew you would mention it, 2 days ago lol. So I was waiting to respond to it for 2 days 😂. That my point still stands as it's got nothing to do with it's reliability, because it was not operated at that time, it was just standing in an airfield base and got battle scarred because of it, which is good because it proves that it was being deployed near the battlefield... Otherwise people would be claiming (like they were claiming before and claiming to this day) that it wasn't anywhere close to the battlefield lol... So without it getting scarred while standing there it wouldn't even get any publicity at all, because it's the perfect 5th gen. And so propagandists won't even mention it in a good light. They would only wait till something bad happens to mention it. So in a way it was a perfect publicity stunt to some degree and I'm glad that it happened since it wasn't destroyed ,but because they thought that it did, it got mentioned by every single tech propagandists that I know of.
And again the Su57 is constantly deployed on the battlefield on a daily basis, and hits his targets also daily. Though it's not his main role since it is trained controlling the S70 drone and cooperating it's forces on the battlefield through reconnaissance and control, on top of it fulfilling it's combat missions with missiles too. It is the most used 5th gen plane in the world. And it hasn't been shot down or crashed even once. Which proves that it's the best 5th gen in the world and nothing even comes close.
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@ For example the Al51 engine (it's derivative). Has the highest thrust to weight ratio of any jet engine, has 3D vectoring technology, optional stealth nozzle, the most reliable, the cheapest, the most efficient, with plasma ignition system, modern computer controls of different efficiency modes etc. an absolute unmatched marvel of engineering. That no one else in the world can match. The only thing that can potentially be better is either the Russian next gen or the NGAD engine, which I'm eagerly waiting on at this point. That is the only thing that can potentially surpass it is the 6th gen engine. But at the moment, nothing even comes close to, comparing it to the closest rival the F135 , it has slightly more max thrust (cruise/combat thrust is about the same) and there are more F135 engines, and also there's an option for a vertical take off variant VTOL... and that's the only 3 redeeming factors to it's closest rival... Everything else is better for the Al51, which is the engine of the Su57M. And is one of the factors why it is the best craft. I am absolutely fascinated with that engine, especially when you learn the history of it and how the school was developed... Not sure if that would be interesting to listen to, but I could absolutely write a book a bout it...
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@MiG-31893 I'm sorry I wish I could, but I can't. Most of the sources are auto censored. And trying to crypt it or trying to find which sources aren't censored is too tedious (most of them are), and like 80% of my messages are censored etc. But I can assure that you I've watched and read plenty of videos (most of them are censored on yt) and official articles on it, more than 10 documentaries just on the Su57 alone where they had different interviews with engineers and developers etc as well as probably every video on yt about the Su57 itself as well etc. (most of the info in those videos is incorrect, but it can't be corrected because the official sources are censored, and my msgs are usually censored, so people just regurgitating same information that is allowed to exist i. e. an eco chamber of information).
Something to look out for, there are also confusion with the Su57 (base model) and the Su57E which have different engines ( AL41), so that's where some of the confusion comes from as well. There are also different versions of that engine too, different variations of the Al51 engine I know of at least 3 modifications, but I'm pretty sure there are probably at least 2 more (anyway it's complicated).
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@MiG-31893 First of, what's that got to do with it being a good plane? It proves that it's a good plane because it hasn't been shot down once in an active combat zone. Second of all, It did wipe all of the main forces, whatever was in the skies when it was given the task (it has plenty other roles). Everything is flying low and at the back of the country at this point.
Thirdly that's not "just a slightly better engine, that's an entire generation worth of better. It's like comparing an Al31 to the F119, and claiming that it's slightly better... I mean it's the whole another generation over it, and the only thing that's keeping it there not slipping from the current gen is because the 5th gen itself was defined with an introduction of the F22 (but also they were promising to improve that engine thrust too with an upgrade, but no guarantees and "fingers crossed"...).
The defense budget got nothing to do with the actual power, when you consider like a million different factors, going over each would again be tedious and most of the words would be censored anyway, but you have to understand that Russia was always going more economical with it's spending compared to the US and also spent alot of it's budget back in the Soviet Union on defense, when most of the budget of the Soviet Union was going on defense to begin with, hence WHY it had the good base for it's modern tech development to begin with. It was based on the Soviet Union spending. Also there are certain techs and programs etc which are better for Russia according to their doctrine (it's all extremely complicated) but basically the US always pushed with the development of their planes and aircraft carriers (also I'm not denying and never did that the US had better stealth, that's just a fact, but good stealth costs alot, and Russia went for efficient stealth instead of the expensive stealth etc, which is "good enough"), so they had advanced that part of the warfare the most, and Russia was focusing more on the missile defense, nuclear submarines, tanks and etc etc etc hence why this side is better for Russia. etc etc etc there are many factors to consider and to discuss. So it has better tech in the key areas of the warfare that it applies it's doctrine to, and also the Su57M planes are now better than the US counterparts as well... with the exception ofcourse that it doesn't have that many of them to begin with, and it literally just entered service this year, this particular modification... and USA still has the lead in the amount of drones and modern planes etc. etc. etc. which costs alot of money etc etc etc.
I'm sorry it's too much to discuss, and write, I hope at least this message goes through though...
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@MiG-31893 Lol how would you know which it did or did not shot down lol. As I've said before, it'd done a plethora of other missions, so it doesn't need to be targeting other crafts as the other Su crafts are doing that job perfectly fine anyway. The Su57 has other missions and is there for other more important and specific missions, which it finds plenty of, without it being used as just a vessel for missiles( though it does use them, but its not the main focus).
Also I though we were comparing it to the F35, because F22 is older, but if you want to compare it to the F22... everything is better.
1 Better engines.
2 takes more ordinance.
3 flies further.
4 cheaper, lower maintenance costs.
5 better EW and sensory fusion.
etc.
Also lets just establish that it's got all of the bells and whistles of the modern gen F35.
But compared to the F22, it's got 6 additional radars all around it's fuselage for the 360 radar coverage (plus the additional at the front). Satellite communication and ew com. . Better EW, as it can create an EM decoy/ skew it's signature away from the craft (on top of all of the standard antennas, track and guidance jamming etc etc etc) So it's literally better in every meaningful way. The F22 has the technology of the 1995. The Su57M has the technology of 2025. I think the difference is obvious. It is obviously closer in it's electronics and sensory fusion to the F35, but you already know that it's better...
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@MiG-31893 And I could debate the opposite.
Again it not having a stealth inlet is the exact same misconception as it not heaving a stealth coating... It does have both. Except it went for an efficient stealth variant which doesn't cost much money but is good enough for it's job of stealth.
You can clearly see different type of inlets with comparison to the previous gen of the Su27/Su30/Su35 inlets. Those changes angles and that slight bend are there precisely for the stealth purposes which are again,good enough for it's stealth.
Also the heat got nothing to do with it, it's done purely for radio wave scatterings and absorption.
You've also mentioned F22 and J20, but I don't want to steer far away from the topic...
The IRST isn't going to add much it's a small ball, which is also obscured from the ground radar systems for the most part, and frontal RCS from another plane would literally be identical..
Also I have no idea where you've got that from that Su57 doesn't have a modern radar. It has the most modern one in the Russian arsenal, and yes, it is the best AESA radar in it's class.
It's RCS is not smaller than the Su57 lol it doesn't even make sense. To even claim such a thing one has to be detached from the reality lol.
Yes, it carries those missiles externally (which adds to the RCS) and Su57 carries them internally, much better missiles too.
There are not just R37 rockets there are other variants too (that hit up to 300 km), however they were modifying the R37 rocket in particular to my knowledge for the internal use also. And I would assume they already have that variant in service too. So it would be no problem for the Su57 defeating it's adversary at all.
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@verdebusterAP That's precisely what I've said. The "multirole capability" is an inherent property of every fighter craft now, and it started from the 4rth gen and solidified with the 5th gen. However it didn't change the inherent properties of the aircraft frames designs. You can still design a multirole Bomber (which is what the F35 is), and a miltirole air dominance craft, as those are 2 completely different airframes in design philosophy.
A "multirole" essentially just means being capable of launching any type missile/rockets/bombs, plus an advanced radar. That's it.
I think it's the opposite the F35 wishes it could fire Kh 47 kinzhal missiles (the best hypersonic missile in the world) like Tu22M3 and Tu160 can. Whilst ofcourse it has some 5th gen capabilities, I'm not disputing that, like better radars and better stealth etc, as well as being connected to the "mil internet" and neither of those 2 aircrafts have that, but everything else is better for them though.
With regards to the Tu22M3 and Tu160 they are of a different role! I just gave them as an example. They are strategical bombers!!! and STRATEGICAL bombers obviously are not fighter jets neither are they multirole. But if you were to design a multirole fighter from the Tu22M3 you could! That's my point!!!
They are "oversized carriers" precisely because they are strategical bombers!!! That's their roles. That's the same thing in the US!!! The Tu 160 is an improved version of the B1B Lancer ( different aircraft but of the similar design and of the same role). After which the US went for a B2, that's a new generation of types of airframes and logic crafts. The mid part in this will be the B21(scaled down B2). The B2 is the large craft, the B21 is the middle sized one (strategical bomber), and the F35 is the smallest one, but with the same logic of it being a bomber craft but just designed to be a "multirole" bomber. But it follows the same design logic of any other bomber craft (mentioned above).
With regards to what's gonna be happening in the future, no... They are clearly designing an NGAD and are getting away from the F35 bomber mentality design... They are designing an air dominance interceptor like craft (which is in the name NGAD), with high speed and high maneuverability. So that concept of air dominance is clearly aint going away( it was challenged ONLY because of the push on the F35 LOL)!!! The only thing that stays is the F35 "multirole" bomber, which obviously will stay as a good 5th gen bomber (nobody else in the world has such a good 5th gen fighter (close range) bomber), but it's going to remain a 5th gen bomber as it was it's designed role in the first place, and can never become an air dominance/superiority craft, as those are only 3 planes currently F22, J20(MiG 144) and the Su57. The only three 5th gen fighter air dominance/ superiority crafts in the world.
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@williamgarry2635 1 the first statement doesn't make sense. Whats so different for shutting it down than the Su35 for example?
Point being, is that every single other m. Russian plane has been shot down already at least once. The only one that hasn't been shot down is the Su 57... which we have a video evidence of it flying over the combat zone. The only m. plane that hasn't been lost so far, that was used in an SMO.
Every other plane has been shot down. At the very least, it either proves that it's either much harder to shut it down - proving it's stealth capabilities ( counter to those "skeptics" that said that it's not stealthy or that it's not a 5th gen plane.🤦♂Where in reality it is the best 5th gen jet in the world, the Su57M. Nothing else even comes close), or that it's impossible to shot it down for them.
If they could shoot it down, they already would. I presume that it's not invincible, but it defo would have outplayed any of the so called w. missiles and planes, that's why they aren't using them in the first place. And not the other way around... First comes the realization that they can do it, only then they would proceed with the plan of deploying the planes and missiles... But if they see no reason in doing it, then they won't be beginning that plan at all...
India wanted a transfer of technologies, like thy did with T90, AK 200 series, Brahmos, their space program etc. from Russia. They wanted a transfer of technologies of the plane which no other country in the world can create and which they would never create themselves. Russia obviously didn't want that ( it ended that "transfer of technologies mentality" around 2010ish). Moreover it is in the interests of Russia to keep selling India 4th gen Sukhou Su30 series planes for now... Compare it to the F22 for example. Which was and still is under an embargo, and also has seen limited use in extremely classified conditions, aside from it shutting a balloon down😂. And to assume that Russia would just transfer the technology to the best plane in the world, which no other country is capable of creating, and would never be able to create ( would take decades to catch up to R. ,at the very least), would just be silly.
It is only now proposing a Su57E, which is the export version of the Su57. However they can't produce enough Su57's as it is, even for it's own VKS. As soon as the demand for the Su57 will be satisfied within Russia, after an SMO. Only then they would move to an external market. Also they could get higher margins $$$ with the Su75, it's like up to 50% potentially higher profit margins. Which by the looks of it seems like their strategy now going forward. And it's profitability stacks because of the interchangeable parts and technologies between the 2 planes (same engine). They might even push that out first instead of the Su57 externally.
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