Comments by "Peter deWolf" (@StoneShards) on "Jordan B Peterson"
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"Evil" has its genesis in the human experience of the spirit of "perversity"--the face of the unknown. That experience aggregates and collectivizes together with the like experience of others to precipitate a "being" which acts consistently with the expectations of its "programmers", those who contributed to the collective. This "being" is magnified and activated by the attention it receives, becoming, in the process, "real". Eventually, the complexification of this "being" may progress sufficiently to engender a degree of independence, autonomy--but always according to universal law. The creators of this "being", though, are BOUND to it--it's just the price extracted by natural law for the creative effort. Everything we do, feel, and think is a binding of our attention that persists perpetually in the reality we know.
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There is both, a "unity" and a "plurality". The elements of the plurality are the differentiations of the unity. On the involutionary arc of creation, the unity differentiates as it "radiates"; on the evolutionary arc, it integrates. Earth represents the completion of involution, in the manifestation of densest "form", and the beginning of evolution, an abstraction, or complexification, of form into essence. Angels and demons, so-called reside on the involutionary side of the cycle, actively building forms for required functions; a hierarchy of human apperception resides on the evolutionary side. Here are the forms humans built from images from associations to personal experiential memory in the effort to approach the unknown using the familiar as comparison; forms of gods and devils, faces of the human fear of the unknown reality. We expand order into the unknown by comparison of it to what we know. The result of that comparison characterizes the knowledge value of that contact with the unknown. The process repeats recursively for as long as you can take it! Digesting the unknown, we grow big and strong. 🤗
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I don't see how the idea of the God-Man violates Jordan's fundamental convictions. He accepts the "omniscience, omnipotence, and OMNIPRESENCE" character of God; Jesus said, "Ye are all sons of God", and, "Get thee behind me, Satan!", putting the Deceiver and Tempter in his proper place as backstop and support and thrust-block--He did not banish Satan. Man's evolution reaches its pinnacle in the God-Man. The atheist assumes the authority of God in denying His existence! Society assumes the authority of God in enforcing its standards of behavior. Government assumes the authority of God in enforcing the standards of Society. God sits atop every pinnacle, so there's a natural association of God with yourself when YOU sit atop a pinnacle...when you are the best at something, or have the most of something, stronger than anyone else, and so on in the style of competition. Self is the deity of the Godless...and God is the Perfection of Self.
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You know, you can only accomplish what you BELIEVE IS POSSIBLE to accomplish, because, disbelief presents a rational DISincentive to pursue the accomplishment. When it comes to what is inside you, you can claim sovereign dominion: your word is law! Attitude! Bring it angry! Nerves originate pain sensation, so, KILL THE NERVE, psychically, intentionally, imaginatively, symbolically, every which way you like, the more the better, don't allow doubt...FEEL the nerve, imaginatively, DIE! Relax into the pain and let its intensity EXPLODE IT! Make such symbolic imaginings as you are led to by the moment, because your intention is fixed. They must be YOUR PERSONAL SYMBOLS for best results.
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At 4:20, Jordan is getting on to something...but, his guest is on a slightly different wavelength, or perspective. I'd like to offer Jordan a little assistance: when you "pose the problem and wait", what emerges are responses from INTERNALIZED AUTHORITIES! Everyone you've every met, you've internalized as an authority, meaning a source of true knowledge. People you interact with often become internalized as semi-autonomous critics, giving no end of trouble to those people not familiar with self-control. Authority is the currency of truth, a repository of trust. Nature internalizes as the authority called, "God".
Emotion and thought are crude handles for a sliding scale of perception and apperception. Perception starts the ball rolling by implying actions and states that directly affect the experiencer; then, emotion arises as possible/likely responses to the implied actions and states that follow direct perception. Thought arises as the experiencer attempts to articulate, especially with language, the emotion experienced. This is the base level of thought; abstracting thought yields symbolic thought that can function without an emotional accompaniment. How you operate this quadripolar dynamic determines everything about who you are and what you do.
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"Heaven" is a state of perfect powerlessness, which is, of course, "bliss". At the end of the day, you crave the perfect powerlessness of sleep. But, in the morning, we're done with it! Being awake in physical existence means you can DO STUFF, so sleep is boring. Outside of physical existence, you can't DO ANYTHING! That's the central advantage of incarnation. Experience of physical reality creates an anchor in the fabric of existence. It is MEMORY! @@ YOUR memory...everybody's memory...is LOCATED in the fabric of existence. This "fabric of existence" IS the ONE MIND. You operate the one mind as well as you are able; then, you learn and become more able. But, you don't really have a personal "mind" of your own. This conception is very inconvenient, as it blurs the truth.
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