Comments by "antonyjh1234" (@antonyjh1234) on "Richard J Murphy"
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@Jack-bs6zb In a way it will make the poor richer, the divide won't be there as much so even though most people in this chat would be able to buy any food item from anywhere in the world, almost any product, people still think they are poor. If it's UK they have one of the most beautiful country's in the world and still think they are poor, because of the divide.
The world needs direction to a better way than mindless investment that overall achieves nothing towards making things cheaper or easier. The goal is to keep everyone enslaved to money, which is bank debt and money being just a product, we all believe the power to buy all these things will continue while the world says uh uh, so it really depends on how you define prosper.
The goal now should be to raise general wellbeing, food shelter and medical care is such a small part of what we do, yet that's all we need, investment, for a job, is pointless.
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The removal of oil, either forced or by choice will mean an incredible change in everybody's attitude including politicians. This will happen in your lifetime and we are the customers of those vested interests and nobody is going to replace something we didn't create or pay the external costs of, yet.
I don't know anybody that has spent less, refused pay rises, not looked forward to a holiday, so let's not ignore our part in the system. There will be no replacement for something they didn't create, 6000 products come from oil and it surrounds us, single use plastic comes from the same barrel diesel does and people still plan driving holidays.
Change will happen when it runs out or we stop using the products by choice which no one I know seems to do. I disagree it's not about attitudes, if people realised that other people have been killed for oil and how bad it will become, just so they can go for a drive, it changes things. People just don't know and are kept ignorant by the state, at least change the attitude of working dead end jobs, of wasting energy towards things that aren't sustainable, mindless debt that we call money, let's at least change those things and see instead of blaming people we are customers of and calling them greedy instead of looking at ourselves.
Saying they should have a replacement so we can just carry on is where the problem lies as "they" have none and if we want one of the products from oil what do we do with the other 5999?
The attitude of people being self sufficient could change and the problem will be less for them, especially considering people are asking for change from those they should expect it from the least, a change in that attitude would be a great start.
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I used to be vegan and "eat less meat" is an example of big business corrupting society. If i eat the daily recommended amount of meat it equals from memory 15 cows over 60 years, I don't eat caged which is chicken, pigs and fish, and don't eat lamb a lot so always beef.
We, as in humanity feed more crop waste to animals than food we grow for them, the eat less meat is the reason chicken has barely moved in 20 years. Red meat and fat is now my friend, it has meant weight loss and better health, humans as they grow older absorb less protein so stick to the recommended amount, daily it helps with muscle retention that veganism couldn't do. Vege's are less nutritious, microplastics per gram of food in the hundreds of thousands and half the damage done to our bodies is supposedly from the sprays that are put onto them and in them.
Calories in and calories out aren't the thing when it's beef fat, or full cream, the lies of food companies have changed public perception based on a biased study that didn't control all things. Red meat for the win now, cream in coffee instead of milk, the feeling of fullness means less calories and kgs of food to get the same thing.
If I tell an older diabetic friend I can turn his life around in two weeks he doesn't believe me and now I'm leaner he says I have a higher metabolism and I tell him, I'm as shocked as you but fat storage and accessibility is easier when fat is in your diet and not seed oils, but he's too scared because he doesn't want to make his doctor upset while he takes his muesli with fruit and oat milk in the morning and after five years he's down five kg, I try to tell him have a fat meal in the morning but he's fully convinced if he has a steak it will kill him. It's all madness based on food companies lies what people think is healthy and eat less meat, directly subsidises it.
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As every single cent has a corresponding amount of debt, somewhere, money is the belief that we are progressing, it is debt but we use that as a means of exchange. As it is all debt and we need to earn it before we are allowed to exist, this is not wealth or progress. It is a misunderstanding of money being of value more than what it really is, banker debt that we use as a means of exchange, it is the need for it that is designed by the govt that holds us back from true progress, it is the ignorance of what it is and it is the lack of belief in a direction that we all agree on that is needed to supersede money. We do things now because we think banker debt has value, and we have given it more value than it deserves.
The choice, to go another way, and the will, is all we need for progress, to raise general well being.
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They work for the central bank, bringing in a wealth tax might devalue the property and the idea of property as a debt hole is the value goes up, not down. If they can't get a higher revaluation they may not get as much new money. As all money id based on debt, them having the charge their tenants more won't pull up the middle class and will hurt the poor the most.
I would say define " country will sort itself out" because the way I see it people don't understand money is bank debt, ask for a tax that as the channel shows removes money from society, so relatively the same inequality will exist just with a lower amount.
This whole "needs" has to stop, there is a ruling class that still rules and people don't understand the rules, that all money is bank debt, each dollar you own is bank debt so if the country is going to sort itself out then it needs to choose a direction, it doesn't need money, it needs an understanding of what it is, banker debt and we pay them with our lives efforts and get nothing in return.
There is no band aid to fix things, no lowering the deficit which removes money from society, creating more poverty. There has to be a general understanding that this product we are forced to have, that has an interest rate applied, doesn't have to be this way. It is ultimately choice and we aren't making the choices, people who have controlled our lives since we are born, for profit, instead of making society better, they care about creating demand for the products they sell, that is all.
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How does the govt benefit off tax if tax doesn't pay for anything?
I will repost what I said to another denier below, if you have any questions please ask.
99.97% of the mass of the atmosphere is only 100k or 62 mile high. If you go above three and a half k you would need breathing apparatus, the point is every bit of stored carbon we are using in the range of 100 million 42 gallon drums daily is being put into this tiny sliver of atmosphere.
In a tank of diesel is the same amount of energy as my total electrical energy for 3,2 months in an Australian summer with the air con going 24-7, if somebody uses a tank a week for a year that is equal to 17 years of my electrical energy. We put this carbon in and it's not 0.04% of the atmosphere, all this mass is around us because of gravity, carbon gas mass, when it's parts per million, it is how many there are per million molecules. One million molecules is a really tiny amount of space, there are trillions and trillions just in the kilogram of air and all the square metres above you. We are now at around 430 molecules of carbon for each and every million sized parcel of air.
Now, radiation from the sun hits the earth, this heat needs to leave again, it travels through us to space again, if there are trillions and trillions of absolute squillions of more molecules that can absorb this heat, it slows down the transfer of heat, and you can not add to any system without it meaning something. The meaning something in this case is when God was supposedly around he didn't have an Esky so he left all the ice, that cools us to this temperature, roughly what we have had 15,000 years, he/she left it all out in the open.
Now we both believe that you can't add energy/heat to a system like that without it meaning something. They can of course work out what is coming and the way we are going it will be total destruction of everything you've known, should you call that alarmist I am not sure but it's the speed we are talking about this time. The temps they think we are going to go to because of this increased forced radiation has been on the earth before, and plants and animals lived. That time it took 700,000 years to reach that temp, this time they reckon we will do it in one thousand years, to a temp that nothing alive today has experienced and might mean instead of the average temperature of the earth being 15 it might be 30.
As we have taken millions of years to adapt and humans are now alive at a temperature that no human has experienced, in fact 3 million years, this isn't alarmist nonsense, this is something the sooner older people stop saying things they can't explain their way out of logically, the better. I understand change is hard considering something that is classed as normal your whole life has to change but the truth is there if you want to see it.
The powers that be would rather lie and keep everyone slaves than lose or change themselves, they are more likely afraid of total collapse if they finally told the real truth. The truth is windmills aren't going to stop the next 30 years because of the lag affect and of course for you that will be ok, myself probably as well. I will say again, we can not add energy to a system without it meaning something, just because you might not fully understand the whole issue does not in any way mean this is climate alarmism, what you should be more concerned with is the lack of alarm and why.
We are not in a cooling cycle if the melt is quicker and sea level rise is increasing in speed, if the sea level rise is increasing as it is a cooling cycle must be impossible. I understand because of the age of Richard he might have an older crowd but to say all satellites are lying must mean you aren't serious in your comment or uninformed correctly.
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