Comments by "Dylan Vogler" (@dylanvogler2165) on "UATV English"
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@bonsummers2657 the Russian story is a lie. Their imperialist all Russian nation, which states that Ukrainians and Belarusians are part of the Russian nation, is an outdated relic. Whilst Ukraine isn't Kyivan Rus' (neither is Russia btw) the origins of its statehood lie not in the Ukrainian People's Republic or the West Ukrainian People's Republic but in the Cossack Hetmenate of the 17th and 18th century. During these times there was already a clear distinction between those living in what is now Ukraine, called Ruthenians and later "little Russians" ,which is derogatory in modern use, by the Moscovites, and the Moscovites, later called "Greater Russians" by the Moscovites themselves.
I think it is funny how most people, who say they know Ukrainian and Russian history, gloss over the Cossack Hetmenate so easily. Whilst many Ukrainian traditions and identity stems from this time. Even their predisposition towards democracy in contrast to Moscow's predisposition towards autocracy. As the leader of the Cossack Hetmenate, the Hetman, was voted into this position and not born into it.
The fact that Ukraine or Russia are the continuation of the Kyivan Rus' is obviously bs. From both of them. They are both descended from it. Just like how France, the Netherlands and Germany all claim to be descended from the Frankish Empire. However it is also false to state that Ukraine as a state emerged only in the 20th century. It emerged as a seperate state identity, under a different name but with the same people, in the 17th.
From the Russian, and Polish-Lithuanian perspective these lands were the borderlands. Which has given rise to the modern name instead of Ruthenia/Rus'. But we shouldn't forget that these lands were not always just borderlands and from a Rus' perspective they were their heartlands.
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