Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "Secular Talk"
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I'm an Australian engineer but actually graduated from U. Illinois (late 80s - aerospace). Ironically this and many other issues is all the fault of one of Chicago person.
Sorry for the longish answer.
A couple years ago I started to take more serious look at economics. I'd done Econ 101 as an option and regarded the whole subject as a joke. But eventually I had to accept that Economists have incredible influence. As an engineer I got tired of being asked "What's the business case for that?" or "Who's going to pay for that?" and no matter the answer its never enough. I eventually realised its always from people with economics backgrounds. Even those with business degrees have a core of economics education and certain things are hardwired into that education.
So I chose to learn about them so I might have a chance of dealing with them.
The person at fault is Milton Freidman the famous University of Chicago Professor, who's theories became the foundation of Reaganomics and Thatcherism that we now call neoliberalism. Its been adopted across the entire Western World. His solution to every problem was free market capitalism combined with small government. Its been preached without challenge (or so little its irrelevant) to 4 generations of Western civilisation - boomers, gen -x, millennials and Zoomers. I say preach not teach quite deliberately because anyone who questions free market capitalism is treated like a heretic.
If you look at almost any Western Nation right now there are serious issues with basic services and infrastructure. It varies from place to place, but its the same root cause - Milton Freidman's ideology. He had some great lines like "Greed is good" but his line about "Corporations have no other obligation but to deliver profits to owners" that's at the center of these problems. Don't forget that energy, water, waste water, roads, bridges, transportation,... etc are all engineered systems. All the rest of you just assume that us engineers can just deliver this stuff. People are so accustomed to turning on a tap or flipping a light switch they never consider what it takes to make that happen. You all assume we are listened to by management, but we aren't. We constantly get pushback with those 2 questions "What's the business case for that?" or "Who's going to pay for that?" and no answer is ever good enough.
Remember Ronald Reagans famous catch cry "Government isn't the solution. Government is the problem." That was pure Milton Friedman philosophy. Another of his lines is "free markets are the most efficient way to run society" has shaped many government decisions IRRESPECTIVE of the the political ideology of those in charge. Don't forget that all the basic economics classes are the same with text books out of Harvard, Yale, Princeton,... etc. So even the most lefty government is riddled with economists all trained in free market economics.
In my home state of Victoria it was a Left Wing government that sold off the train system and the power stations. They told us the same line everyone hears: "free market competition will provide better services and lower costs to consumers." * BUT how can that be true when the corporations who have just bought those public assets have "no other obligation than to deliver profits to their owners?"* We now have to subsidise those corporations who bought our rail system. Our power bills are up over 400% and we have our own version of the energy crisis.
The problem is Milton Freidman was WRONG and it should have been obvious that he was WRONG, but to question his ideology and its offspring of Reaganomics and Thatcherism is to labelled a heretic.
I hate to see this happen to Chicago but it was a Chitown native who brought this shite down upon us all.
Sorry for the long answer.
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Because none of them want to admit that she lost, because they hold onto the fact she won the popular vote.
But they keep forgetting that's NOT what its about.
Think of it like a football game.
One team keeps marching down the field again and again. Out of 10 possessions they get 1 touchdown, 6 field goals, but throw 1 interception.
The other team truly sucks. They are a rambling mess of bad calls, penalties and fumbles.
They struggle on D giving up yards, 1st downs and points, but somehow they turn that 1 interception into a pick 6.
Their O is even worse than their D. They can't move the ball, they fumble and get called for holding again and again. Their QB is sacked 5 times and gets picked off 4 times but somehow they manage to score 3 touchdowns off some gimmick plays and Hail Mary's. They suck so bad their kicker not only missed a couple of critical field goals but also missed 2 extra points on bad snaps, bad holds and bad kicking.
WHO WON THE GAME.
Was it the team with more first downs, more yards, more interceptions, fewer mistakes, better kicking and a flashy superstar QB?
Or was it the team with 26 points instead of 25?
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