Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "Secular Talk" channel.

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  16. Way back in the 90s the discussion about the death penalty came up at work and someone mentioned a British documentary where a couple of film makers just looked at the facts. They did not go either pro or con on the subject just what the facts were. Where the methods came, how long they take, how many are botched and in what way they are botched. I found it at the video rental store (it was the 90s) a few weeks later. What stunned me was how little I actually knew about the subject. Like how long various techniques take. It was a long time ago but I remember a couple of things. 1) The worst was electrocution which most people have the idea that its a pulse of volts and bang no heartbeat. More often than not the person does not die from the voltage but from the internal damage done from burning which can take almost an hour in some cases. 2) The cocktail being used at that time (mid 90s) for lethal injection was developed by 2 Nazi doctors who experimented on mentally retarded orphans. The information was recovered in the aftermath of WW2. 3) If hanged and the hangman got the drop right and the knot in the right place it was near instant from the neck being snapped. If not the person could either strangle slowly taking up to several minutes or be decapitated as happened in Iraq with Saddam Hussein's half brother. 4) Stoning, which is still practiced in a few countries can take hours. 5) Beheadings are either instant or so ugly it can't be described. 6) The firing squad is either instant or so ugly it can't be described. The ugliest fact however was during first 90years of the 20th century less than 10% of all people formally executed by "the state" (as in any nation, state or jurisdiction) were charged with a crime and given a trial. Over 90% of all the people formally executed in various nations and states were never charged with any crime let alone given a trial. They did not go into how many people were later found to be innocent.
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  22. ITS WORSE THAN KYLE IS SAYING I have been trying to highlight this report for over 6 months ago when RICHARD WOLLF mentioned it. The report was published in SEPTEMBER 2022 nearly 10 months ago. Anyone can find the report just google "congressional budget office family wealth" and the actual home page for the report should come up. On that page you can not only download the report but an Excel spreadsheet with all the data in the graphs. Here's some facts from the data of the very first graph in that report which is the one shown by Kyle at 4:26. From that graph you can not only get the effect of the 2008 GFC by comparing the 2007 data to 2010 but also the recovery by comparing the 2007 data to 2019. Adjusting for population and averaging the data on a per person value: The Top 10% LOST 11.1% of their wealth in the GFC but by 2019 were 21.1% ABOVE their 2007 value. The Middle 40% LOST 13.3% of their wealth in the GFC but by 2019 were 4.6% ABOVE their 2007 value. The Bottom 50% LOST 49.5% of their wealth in the GFC but by 2019 were STILL 21.8% BELOW their 2007 value. So after the GFC that they caused the Top 10% got around US$4 Trillion from Bush and another US$4 Trillion from Obama and have since recovered and by 2019 were US$20 Trillion ABOVE their 2007 value. Estimates have them at least US$8 Trillion above that during the COVID Pandemic. The current collective value of the Top 10% can be estimated to be above US$90 Trillion compared to an estimated collective value of US$2.5Trillion for the 165 million people who make up America's Bottom 50%. This is neoliberal economics in overdrive. FYI - I'm Australian but went to college in America on a scholarship this is my gift to you all. Apologies if its blunt, but I do love America and the American people. I do want to see America back at its best and right now America is NOT at its best. And so you know this sort of neoliberal brain virus is doing just as much damage in Australia. We are in the midst of a full blown double crisis of housing and energy and our genius economists have said things like "its just the markets adjusting."
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  45. YOU ARE DEAD RIGHT I'm Australian but went to college in America and first hear about this report over 6 months ago when RICHARD WOLLF mentioned it. The report was published in SEPTEMBER 2022 nearly 10 months ago. I went and checked it against the Australian data which is presented a little differently but tells the same basic story. Anyone can find the CBO report just google "congressional budget office family wealth" and the actual home page for the report should come up. On that page you can not only download the report but an Excel spreadsheet with all the data in the graphs. Here's some facts from the data of the very first graph in that report which is the one shown by Kyle at 4:26. From that graph you can not only get the effect of the 2008 GFC by comparing the 2007 data to 2010 but also the recovery by comparing the 2007 data to 2019. Adjusting for population and averaging the data on a per person value: The Top 10% LOST 11.1% of their wealth in the GFC but by 2019 were 21.1% ABOVE their 2007 value. The Middle 40% LOST 13.3% of their wealth in the GFC but by 2019 were 4.6% ABOVE their 2007 value. The Bottom 50% LOST 49.5% of their wealth in the GFC but by 2019 were STILL 21.8% BELOW their 2007 value. So after the GFC that they caused the Top 10% got around US$4 Trillion from Bush and another US$4 Trillion from Obama and have since recovered and by 2019 were US$20 Trillion ABOVE their 2007 value. Estimates have them at least US$8 Trillion above that during the COVID Pandemic. The current collective value of the Top 10% can be estimated to be above US$90 Trillion compared to an estimated collective value of US$2.5Trillion for the 165 million people who make up America's Bottom 50%. This is neoliberal economics in overdrive and its made a mess of the developed world.
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