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  1. ryeable No, he can't think outside the box of acquiring the property of others illicitly. Capitalism started when the people of a village sent their produce to market with one guy who was supposed to trade for what they needed for them as his share of the work. But the guy cranked up his prices and then only paid the villagers what he didn't want to steal for himself. Later, petty thieves called barons used this ill-gotten wealth to buy up supplies of needed things and gouged people for them, while they didn't work a lick. Later, the powerful barons enslaved whole villages and made them serfs. The baron, born no more magically deserving than the rest of them, nevertheless had the gall to suggest that he was blessed of god, and that everyone should do as he said or be thrown off "his" land to starve and freeze. Every bit of capitalism and where it came from was a criminal endeavor at every turn, a dishonesty, a theft. The future is coming where no one will be permitted to claim to "own" another's home, no matter what excuse. The future will come when people will be paid exactly the same per hour no matter what their job or status, and anything else will be a felony. The future will come when scams to avoid work like capitalism and investment will be barred from existence. It is coming.
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  2. ryeable Socialism happens whenever someone tries to enslave another and is stopped. Socialism happens whenever people realize the evil of claiming to own the world out from under poeple who were born on it. Socialism happens when capitalists are stopped. Socialism happened first on the plains of Africa when we needed to gang up on predators, no matter how scary, and everyone was expected to do his part and not steal from each other.
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  3. ryeable Socialism is every time people help and protect each other from unfairness.
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  4. ryeable Anything but common decency shouldn't be permitted.
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  5. virgule888 You are a LIAR!! Everything you cite about human nature has been disproved. When Utah started giving the homeless homes, they immediately began to get off drugs, clean themselves up, and look for work or training. They HAD thought they would have to develop expensive programs to do this, but it happened spontaneously MERELY FROM HAVING A HOME THEY COULD COUNT ON!! It is when you end harsh unmanageable consequence that people flourish and begin to take charge of their lives. People need to see a positive improvement to their lives from working, and then they will do it. And industries that are run BY THE WORKERS are more profitable and productive, this has long been seen, but they must have a personal and equal stake in their work. As long as CEOs are paid fabulous fortunes by depriving workers of much of their efforts and products, they will NOT be productive or care if they are. Socialism can give people these opportunities and the security to build their life up. It does so by protecting their homes from eviction, removing the tribute of rent or mortgage, and handing over residences to the people whose ancestors built all of it, and therefore is their rightful inheritance of he earth. Socialism robs back the ill gotten gain of the rich to its rightful producers, and forces the now former rich to find productive work to live. Socialism is NOT the welfare state, the welfare state is demeaning, and it was invented by the capitalist rich to prevent the people from dragging the rich out in the street and guillotining the lot of them. Socialism is restoring fairness and controlling the economic realm by democracy.
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  6.  @sallybaddeley6060  You haven't responded with any content at all. You just stated your erroneous view.
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  7.  @sallybaddeley6060  BOTH!! By "our" I mean the will of the democratic socialism.
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  8.  @sallybaddeley6060  Well, I MIGHT like that, but what I'm proposing is that they be subjected to the rules established by the socialist democracy. I've told you what my views are at great length. If you want to know what I said, look at my lengthy comments, not merely answers replying to you but to everyone. If you're too stupid to do that, well then... Basically the rules of any sane decent Socialist Democracy are that people are paid the same for their labor hour on jobs the People want done, and that wealth acquired by any other means is crime and is illegal. You own your home and garden and no one can take it away from you or evict you from it. If you trade homes with someone voluntarily it is straight across, with NO other incentive, so you are encouraged to take good care of your home. Most consumed commodities are free as is food IF you have a job. You save your labor hours to buy other things. If you need more labor hours, you sign up for more work. Etc.
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  9.  @anthonyoer4778  ALL govt IS authoritarian. Without it you get Somalia. You just don't like authority being used to benefit everyone, instead of just the few.
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  10.  @sallybaddeley6060  No, we don't want the job. We want a little house with a garden an chickens. But if an opposing view threatens my house and chickens, KILL THEM!!
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  11.  @anthonyoer4778  That's what every govt does, and without that you get Somalia.
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  12.  @sallybaddeley6060  Everybody gets a decent house free and clear that NOBODY can take from them. Everybody is guaranteed a job suitable to their talents, or is guaranteed equal income. Everybody is paid the same for their hour of work. Don't work you don't get free food. Everybody gets a free share of govt benefits, health care, transport, protection, water, power. No wealth in the form of usurious stocks or bonds or shares is permitted to exist. Go against this equality and the People send you to reeducation camp. Once you HAVE rights and equality, NO one is permitted to oppose it.
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  13.  @sallybaddeley6060  The People will do that, I will be working my little job and tending my little garden and chickens.
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  14.  @sallybaddeley6060  No, Democracy is the means of deciding, it is Democratic. Democracy is NOT an economic system, contrary to American propaganda. The system is economic equality, enforced by the People and their Democracy. You work the number of labor hours the People mandate as the minimum to get free food, all other govt services are free. If you want more stuff, you sign up for more labor hours. We decide that democratically, as a group. Everyone owns their house and yard which no one can evict them from or take away, till they die. There is NO rental. You are given a house at adulthood. They cannot be taxed for property. Homes can be swapped on a state website. Straight across with no incentives or inducements. Tax is removed prior to payment for work, labor hours are adjusted down to cover all public obligations of the state, The People have the obligation to support the ill, disabled, elderly, and children. Incentive has never been required for scientists, they work typically at a basic level of income. They are the kind that if Science didn't pay, they would do it as a hobby. Difficult jobs are assigned to larger numbers of workers who check out heavy tools from govt stores..
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  15.  @anthonyoer4778  ALL govt has to be "authoritarian", without it you get Somalia. The only "economic lies" here are yours.
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  16.  @anthonyoer4778  Sure they are, pay taxes, obey the law, or people with guns and truncheons come for you. Democracy is merely the means of deciding the laws. Socialism is no different. Socialism is Democratic.
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  17.  John Donnellan  That's a feature of lawlessness, not Democratic laws. Communists are Democratic.
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  18. @Karen Benson Steal money and try to run with it deserves prison.
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  19. @Marco Alessandro I'm 70 and a retired physicist. Why should anyone care about your home improvements? Nonsense zoning laws and building dept high-handedness is only found in the USA.
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  20. @Marco Alessandro Well that's silly. It doesn't have to be that way at all. You don't seem to understand Trotsky, or why Lenin had him killed in Mexico. And Marx was a theorist, he had nothing to do with Soviet Russia. He would have been horrified by Russia because it was NOT democratic, as was Eric Arthur Blair, whose pen name was George Orwell. Anyway, Russia had lots of people deciding things, just not democratically, The Politburo and the army, who took their orders from the Politburo families when not from the dictator.
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  21.  John Donnellan  Why are you a fucking idiot? Nobody wants the Soviet system back, AND, IT WASN'T EITHER COMMUNISM OR SOCIALISM!! IT WAS FASCIST FEUDALISM RE-VISITED!! The rich Politburo families would pull up in limos in furs, with the army behind them and STEAL EVERYTHING!! That's NOT a viable economic system! And, under either communism OR socialism a rich class like the Politburo would NOT BE ALLOWED TO EVEN EXIST!! That's how we KNOW it wasn't communism OR socialism!! I hope we torture MORE fucking christian missionaries, those shit are the assholes of the world!!
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