Comments by "" (@rstevewarmorycom) on "OxfordUnion" channel.

  1. If the shoe fits wear it, otherwise... Cubans who wanted to get rich and never have to work again, in other words people with corrupt moral character and criminals, fled the island in droves. They wound up in Florida where they are chronically pissed off now, and try to direct it to Castro, even though they got what they believed they wanted, and now have to either work for a living or else now they occupy major wings of Floridia's prisons. They're pissed off that they didn't get rich and still have to work, they aren't actually pissed at Castro. He was their ticket to Amerika!! Dontcha know! As I said, though, Cuba is NOT a proper socialism!!
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  2. No, it's never been tried. You were lied to.
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  3. Nobody even agrees about what that is.
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  4. Don't need to be alike, that's what Socialism is good for, TREATING them all alike in right to a decent life even THOUGH they are different, AND providing them with what they need when they need more than another. It's in jibe with "equal before the law" even though we know they are not equal in reality. The ONLY "failed socialisms" around the world have been PHONY socialisms that were NOT socialisms but were controlled by rich fascist oligarchies who only CALLED themselves "socialist" to deceive their people!! WHEREVER you permit private disparate wealth to exist and control society, you will find phony socialism, phony welfare, phony fairness, this is why the wealthy should be given ONE and ONLY ONE chance to divest their wealth to the People's Government, and if they do not they should be immediately shot through the head. Look at socialism in Europe, for example, the more it is applied and developed socialistically, the more satisfaction quotient of the people for the government and society rises higher and higher!!!
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  5. Nobody would be "brought down to their level"/any such bullshit. When they fall down we stop and pick them up. When they can't find a job we make one. When that job won't pay enough, we pay it. When they refuse to work we arrange for the society to MANDATE BY LAW that provide them with NO FOOD till they agree to do so. Your children's future relies on this society, they and you are NOT independent. The whole system of providing you EVERYTHING is run by AND accomplished by the society, NOT BY YOU, and without the society YOU and your precious children would have a mud hut and rocks, sticks, and fur to work with, and NO PROTECTION!! So quit fucking pretending you can just "take your fucking marbles and go home" because you CAN'T, there IS NO home except that which we provided for you!! You can't BE a "winner" without the REST of us ENABLING that, nor can anyone else be a loser without us neglecting them!!
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  6. No, your grasp of what socialism is is delusional and brainwashed by the rich so you would panic if you heard the word spoken. You have been manipulated.
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  7. We can MAKE it fair if we wish to. That's called socialism. Quit spewing the garbage the rich taught you in schools, they only did that to scare you away from taking it all away from them!!
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  8. The only geniuses who believe in capitalism are genius thieves, we should kill them immediately!!
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  9. Anarchy is ridiculous. Government of some kind is always needed. Some will always be dishonest and corrupt.
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  10. Every step you take toward socialism makes you MORE profitable, and MORE satisfied with the government. What you just spewed was a mythology invented by the rich who would find themselves equal to everyone else, oh drat!!
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  11. Example: You are robbed. Everyone gets together and beats your money out of the thief. You are happy. Example: You are underpaid. Everyone gets together and beats your money out of your thieving employer and warn him never to do it again or they will beat him again. You are happy. Example: You are born on a planet, but someone has stolen your inherent land right to live safely on your own property on your own planet. Everyone gets together and makes it clear to those who stole your land that they must give it back to you or be killed horribly by torture. You get your land back and live in security upon it. All these examples are everyone exerting the power of Socialism. Everyone getting together for mutual protection IS Socialism.
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  12. Alex Hopkins No, will be forbidden to fire. They are required to produce with the staff they have and to pay them. If they can't, the people's staff will take over management, deprive the owners of any wealth derived from it, and pay the workers from profits. If that doesn't work the people will confiscate all personal wealth of the original owners, on the belief that they absconded with the value of the company. If the business cannot be made to work it will be terminated and the workers will be given other similar good paying jobs. The former owners will be required to get decent jobs to support themselves. You simply don't let thieves get away with it.
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  13. Alex Hopkins You don't get it. The WHOLE system of ownership and investment is canceled under Socialism. Under Socialism, "people" don't start businesses, THE People start businesses at the behest of the public. They produce what the People say they want. The rich are already stealing. The top 1% own 40% of the wealth in the USA!! They funnel your wealth to themselves by contrivance, rent, mortgage, they claim to own other people's homes!! NOBODY can own another person;s home!! That should never BE PERMITTED!! Let's gang up on them and steal it all back from them!! No one could be an employer without having stolen their wealth and position from a whole bunch of workers. There are NO inherent "employers" in this world, just people who got good at stealing and now want to make more by abusing their workers. Your remark that "taking away the assets of the employer is stealing" is like saying taking the stolen goods away from a thief is "stealing". It's a stupid notion.
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  14. It's simple to restrain the selfish dicks, do the same as we did with murderers, back when people weren't quite sure what to do with them, kill them. Then there won't be any more selfish dicks after a while.
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  15. None do. The USSR wasn't socialism. It was an oligarchic feudal capitalism. It only called itself socialist to convince people that their revolution did them no good at all. The USA called them socialist so they could scare our people out of wanting socialism. Both oligarchies made out like bandits.
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  16. Socialism works fine, and the vast majority of the people like it, but the outside capitalist oligarchies and the greedy in the nation itself keep trying to overthrow it and take over the economy so they can take profit. The important thing to do is kill anyone who opposes it, and don't let anyone from a capitalist oligarchy into your borders, kill every one you catch. Let all the greedy leave. But they can't take any wealth with them. Arm everyone and tell them to shoot anyone they don't know.
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  17. Norway' government owns controlling interest in all its businesses. Sounds communist to me!!
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  18. No, personal property is of no consequence to the battle for fairness to all workers. Private property as Marx saw it was the means of production or speculation.
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  19. That's NOT what it means at all!!
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  20. On THIS ONE!!! It's a "voluntary transaction" when the guy says, "be a shame if your store got burned down". It's a "voluntary transaction" when you're forced to work for a non-living wage by capitalists who have ganged up and reduced wages. It's a "voluntary transaction" when a robber threatens you and you decide to give him money. When a trade isn't fair according to the People's judgement, then it is thievery, and the thief must be punished!!!
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  21. They aren't even ALLOWED to fire anyone. They are forced to give up THEIR OWN cut to make it work or get out of the business and the workers take it over!! Killing thieves isn't murder.
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  22. Norway government owns the controlling share of all industries, that way they can control them for the benefit of the People. That's Socialism. Russia NEVER was socialist, neither was N Korea. They were oligarchic or dictatorial feudalisms.
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  23. GOOD!! Only the government of the People should start or run businesses anyway!! Capitalism encourages theft and greed. Venezuela is an oligarchy of the rich stealing their petro-dollars and shipping them offshore into foreign banks, Chavez wasn't a socialist at all, it was all pretense to steal by the rich thieves he connived with. "Employers" are ALL thieves. Taking back what they stole is called justice!!
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  24. Bullshit. They deserve a living wage or the business must be confiscated. We'll have the government run it, if it is a needed commodity and cannot be produced for a cheap enough price, the government must subsidize it from other sources. Like expensive pharmaceuticals.
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  25. USSR was NEVER socialist. It was oligarchic feudalism. Norway is close, but needs even more. I don't know what the Catalans intend. Some of it sounds good.
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  26. We must confiscate the wealth of the rich till they are no longer rich. Then, if they are not subversives, they are entitled to the same health care as the rest of us. If they are imprisoned, they are also entitled to health care. There are NO "exploited", all are paid exactly the same per hour of work. EXACTLY THE SAME!!
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  27. No, it's ALL stealing. When you produce something in 100 hours, for example, a work of fiction or such, you are entitled to be paid for those 100 hours, BUT NO MORE THAN THAT, the "what the fuck have you done for us LATELY" rule applies. You do NOT get to sell your same work over and over to different suckers when you have already been paid for it!!! If invention takes a certain number of hours, then that is what you will be paid for it!! Copies of your invention get you NOTHING!! The work you produce is owned by the People once they have paid you for it!!! EVERYONE GETS A COPY!!
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  28. Unfair. Unequal health coverage and services. It is to be eliminated. ONLY public healthcare is to be allowed!! And there will NO LONGER EVEN BE "poor people". All will be paid EXACTLY the same for their hour of work!!!
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  29. True. Not precisely, but socialist control of the market by the people includes the options to continue the market but protect everyone from it by equal redistribution of wealth, or to do away with it entirely. If the market is completely controlled by the people's government, people will pretty quickly see that it is useless and inefficient, and they will choose communism. It's much more sensible.
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  30. No, I said capitalism is useless and inefficient and cruelly inhumane, and trying to run it for the people and exert mighty regulations and corrections on it to protect the people from it is even MORE inefficient and bureaucratic. Better to destroy it entirely. More communism is more liberty and freedom. Communism has never before been tried, except prior to so-called "civilization". Neither the USSR or red china were/are communist. Both were/are governed by huge plutocratic rich classes. That would never be permitted for a second under communism. Nor does communism have to be centralized, it can be administered locally in all cases, and cooperatives of local governments can interact as a united government of local communisms.
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  31. Capitalism is efficient at funneling all a nation's wealth to a very few, and leaving its people publicly destitute. The improvement in living conditions in the west were NOT produced by capitalism, but IN SPITE of it. Finding a brand new untrammeled "unowned" continent full of timber and mineral and soil riches galore and taking it away from less able indigenous people by massacring them would allow ANY system of government to make it seem like it was the best thing since sliced bread, for SOME FEW. Any "serious economist" is either a rich bastard or a sycophant to rich bastards. Asking them if capitalism is good is the same as asking a wolf how sheep taste!! Making THEFT from victims by the rich and powerful illegal is a GOOD THING(tm). You don't seem to be defending "liberty" or "freedom" but instead LICENSE!!! Freedom and liberty are ACTUALLY: 1) To own one's home by fiat of the communist people's government, without ANY fear of ANY kind of taxation of it, regulation upon it, or of eviction or confiscation!!! 2) To be guaranteed absolutely equal pay per hour of work for every worker. To be guaranteed a job or the state pays you a wage if they do not provide a job!! 3) To be protected from illicitly accumulated wealth and unfair economic leverages of the wealthy by ALL unearned wealth and speculation and all investment and usury being made illegal. 4) To be guaranteed health care, equal retirement wage as if working, equal disability wage as if working, telecom, power, police protection, fire protection, higher education, and public transportation, as a right of all citizens! 5) To be guaranteed an equal vote in all local government meetings, and be guaranteed that all government officials be shadowed and all their decisions signed off by examiners who examine everything they do and report to the body politic about any devious actions. 6) All exorbitant wealth accumulated to be confiscated by the people's government for public works needs denied the people by the wealthy in the past. Now THAT'S Freedom, Liberty, and Security!! The ONLY reason this has never been tried is that the people have never managed to wrest the seat of power from the rich yet. The rich know that endgame IS THEIR END!!!
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  32. So you like the "freedom" to steal the wages of workers when you DID NO WORK?? That which you call "freedom" IS THEFT, Moron!! Money YOU "make" from "investment" is money STOLEN from WORKERS!!! It is NOT EARNED BY YOU!!! IT IS STOLEN!!! What I say IS nothing new, and it will KEEP BEING SAID till IT WINS!! UPPER CASE EMPHASIS IS IMPORTANT FOR MORONS LIKE YOU WHO CAN'T UNDERSTAND!! BOOKS ON ECONOMY ARE WRITTEN BY RICH THIEVES to TRY TO JUSTIFY THEIR CRIMES!! The WINNER-THIEVES WRITE HISTORY, they are LIARS!! Freedom, Liberty and Security is what each person is owed by the People's State!
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  33. Communists know MORE about how capitalism works than capitalists do!!! That's like telling an atheist that he just "doesn't know enough about the bible", it's desperately desperately ignorant of you!!! We KNOW the explanations, we simply disagree with them because of the vicious outcomes all capitalism produces! You assume everyone is a free and equal agent, they're NOT. You assume that everyone is free to bargain to get a good price, they AREN'T!! The way you describe capitalism it should result in everyone being equal with equal opportunities, and it DOESN'T!! WHEN it DOESN'T you blame the victims for being "lazy" when there are many totally accidental life circumstances that have the same result, and there is no proof anyone is "just being lazy" when they aren't and have instead been dealt a bad hand in life and are a victim of that. Wealth is produced by labor, end, full stop. It is NOT produced by "transactions", that's pure nonsense. Products do NOT come about by anything BUT human labor hours!! People can be criminally victimized by being forced to sign contracts as well, by need or circumstances, and you ignore that. It's as if you deny a person robbed with a gun was doing other than making a willing contract with the criminal that he pay not be shot!! It makes you obviously ignorant and brainwashed by the simpleton's capitalist brainwashing in the public schools!! Do you know who has spent billions pushing to get their way in school textbooks to get their little economic catechism of pseudo-voluntarism and capitalist incentive-investment-profit lie jammed into textbooks??? THE RICH!!! Great cadres of them!! Look it up!!
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  34. You are an uneducated moron pretending he has the background to do "research", when all you're doing is confirming your moronic biases by looking for supporting nonsense online. THAT is NOT "research"!!
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  35. So we need to understand the complexities of capitalist thievery to prevent it?
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  36. No, you merely CLAIMED that the capitalist manner of theft was not "stealing" for reasons that are inherently specious. ANY TIME an exchange takes place that leaves one less compensated than the other, THEFT HAS OCCURRED!! If you try to deny that you are merely LYING!!
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  37. No, you PRETENDED you were revealing a truth, when in fact you were LYING!! Consent is not fairness, because someone deprived HAS to consent to being robbed in order to survive. That is MOST properly called CRIME!! It is like a minor in a low-power position "consenting" to sex, or an employed woman feeling they must consent to sex with the boss! It is CRIME!! In the same sense, a person consents to giving up his wallet in return for the his mugger not shooting him!!
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  38. Well that's totally ridiculous and wrong!!! SAYING it is not so does NOT MAKE it so, you lying MORON!!! EVERYTHING the state does for ALL the people IS an example of how democracy INEVITABLY results in socialism little by little, each and every edifice of social service the government has established IS socialism!! ALL services ARE essential!! That's WHY they were established!! The rich could always afford them, but for EVERYONE to have them Socialist Institutions must be established!!! And to pay for them the People must confiscate what the rich have STOLEN to make themselves RICH IN THE FIRST PLACE!! What's the fucking difference between "equitable" and "equalizing", you lying buttfuck? NOTHING!!!! You're jibber-jabbering!!!
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  39. Little coward, run away when you know you're wrong, little coward, run away when you know your best arguments have been tromped on and defeated, little coward.
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  40. Nooo, you're just a propagandistic liar with NO support in the evidence.
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  41. Because you're ignorant. You can't even spell.
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  42. I could if I was dishonest, I'm not. It isn't that hard to tell morons what they want to hear and get famous. All it takes is another charismatic moron to jabber their moron jabber at them. They will pay to hear you, and they will pat themselves on the back and pretend they are scholarly. I mean look at all those books behind him, don't you think he knows more than you, but he is still telling you your stupid ignorant beliefs and telling you you were right all along. Even though you weren't.
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  43. You're crazy!! The MOST prosperous all have the MOST regulations!!
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  44. Like, with their laws and regulations on commerce, pollution, transport, you can do pollutive, exploitative, dangerous shit in underdeveloped countries you couldn't get away with for a minute in an advanced civilized nation. The list would be endless if I supplied you with one. Sure you know that and are just hiding behind your question.
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  45. ryeable The biggest complaint about housing the poor seems to be that they won't take care of the place because they don't care about it, resent the process that put them there, and the remote landlord who collects high rent so they can never save anything back. These housing projects become hovels outside the apartment door, and inside, as nobody believes it their job to clean it up and protect it. But if you give them that one decent home that is their free and clear, that no one may take away from them, and they may not have another one in their whole lives, they are stuck there, and they will either develop pride of place or live in the squalor they permit. Some may fail, but most will not, they will have a home to build their life from. So you see, it is NOT a matter of the impoverished BEING impoverished by their own improvidence and sloth, which is the right-wing distortion of things, but by not being allowed control and security in their lives. Landlords have long know how to diminish people using money in order to control them into cash cows paying monthly tribute, and what it does to their souls and their children. We have to stop them.
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  46. ryeable Irrelevant, it is the correct view of what is fair. Unless you give people their inherent right to live on the earth they were born on without owing you money per month, otherwise you have become a brigand, enslaver, a bandit, a criminal. Whatever people are is just not your fucking business. You were not put on earth to make sure they pay you money for land you had no more right to than they do. ANY claim you make that you "own" their house, residence, domicile, makes you a criminal enterprise and degrades their life for your benefit. It is theft, it is absconding, and it is WRONG!!
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  47. ryeable Personal property is fine. Absconding with other people's share of the world and CALLING it your own is theft!! Stealing it back from you is then the greatest moral act!!
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  48. ryeable You can scream that all day. Would you believe a thief if he turned up with others belongings and declared "MY PROPERTY"? Don't be stupid. As for whether it's happening, the world is becoming more and more socialist by the minute, and people are recognizing that the less fortunate that they took unfair advantage of have a right to the land and to live unencumbered upon it. Your screaming way of theft is dying. It started dying in the middle ages with the fall of kings and feudalism. It is continuing. The world is taming its cruel bastards like you.
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  49. ryeable Someone can own their own residence, IF someone like you doesn't steal their land from them by capitalist contrivance and then try to make them pay monthly tribute to you in rent or mortgage. Someone can accumulate wealth by honest real work, but it won't make them wealthy as you want to become by your capitalist stealing. Whenever one man pays another man less for his work than he wants to be paid for his, he is stealing and enslaving. All investment is merely another way of stealing. Wanting to "make my money work for me" is a way of saying you want others enslaved to you. That is criminal and immoral.
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  50. ryeable He's an idiot. His brain is in the box of capitalism.
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