Comments by "" (@rstevewarmorycom) on "OxfordUnion"
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Don't need to be alike, that's what Socialism is good for, TREATING them all alike in right to a decent life even THOUGH they are different, AND providing them with what they need when they need more than another. It's in jibe with "equal before the law" even though we know they are not equal in reality.
The ONLY "failed socialisms" around the world have been PHONY socialisms that were NOT socialisms but were controlled by rich fascist oligarchies who only CALLED themselves "socialist" to deceive their people!!
WHEREVER you permit private disparate wealth to exist and control society, you will find phony socialism, phony welfare, phony fairness, this is why the wealthy should be given ONE and ONLY ONE chance to divest their wealth to the People's Government, and if they do not they should be immediately shot through the head.
Look at socialism in Europe, for example, the more it is applied and developed socialistically, the more satisfaction quotient of the people for the government and society rises higher and higher!!!
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Capitalism is efficient at funneling all a nation's wealth to a very few, and leaving its people publicly destitute. The improvement in living conditions in the west were NOT produced by capitalism, but IN SPITE of it. Finding a brand new untrammeled "unowned" continent full of timber and mineral and soil riches galore and taking it away from less able indigenous people by massacring them would allow ANY system of government to make it seem like it was the best thing since sliced bread, for SOME FEW. Any "serious economist" is either a rich bastard or a sycophant to rich bastards. Asking them if capitalism is good is the same as asking a wolf how sheep taste!! Making THEFT from victims by the rich and powerful illegal is a GOOD THING(tm). You don't seem to be defending "liberty" or "freedom" but instead LICENSE!!!
Freedom and liberty are ACTUALLY:
1) To own one's home by fiat of the communist people's government, without ANY fear of ANY kind of taxation of it, regulation upon it, or of eviction or confiscation!!!
2) To be guaranteed absolutely equal pay per hour of work for every worker. To be guaranteed a job or the state pays you a wage if they do not provide a job!!
3) To be protected from illicitly accumulated wealth and unfair economic leverages of the wealthy by ALL unearned wealth and speculation and all investment and usury being made illegal.
4) To be guaranteed health care, equal retirement wage as if working, equal disability wage as if working, telecom, power, police protection, fire protection, higher education, and public transportation, as a right of all citizens!
5) To be guaranteed an equal vote in all local government meetings, and be guaranteed that all government officials be shadowed and all their decisions signed off by examiners who examine
everything they do and report to the body politic about any devious actions.
6) All exorbitant wealth accumulated to be confiscated by the people's government for public works needs denied the people by the wealthy in the past.
Now THAT'S Freedom, Liberty, and Security!!
The ONLY reason this has never been tried is that the people have never managed to wrest the seat of power from the rich yet. The rich know that endgame IS THEIR END!!!
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Communists know MORE about how capitalism works than capitalists do!!! That's like telling an atheist that he just "doesn't know enough about the bible", it's desperately desperately ignorant of you!!! We KNOW the explanations, we simply disagree with them because of the vicious outcomes all capitalism produces! You assume everyone is a free and equal agent, they're NOT. You assume that everyone is free to bargain to get a good price, they AREN'T!! The way you describe capitalism it should result in everyone being equal with equal opportunities, and it DOESN'T!! WHEN it DOESN'T you blame the victims for being "lazy" when there are many totally accidental life circumstances that have the same result, and there is no proof anyone is "just being lazy" when they aren't and have instead been dealt a bad hand in life and are a victim of that. Wealth is produced by labor, end, full stop. It is NOT produced by "transactions", that's pure nonsense. Products do NOT come about by anything BUT human labor hours!! People can be criminally victimized by being forced to sign contracts as well, by need or circumstances, and you ignore that. It's as if you deny a person robbed with a gun was doing other than making a willing contract with the criminal that he pay not be shot!! It makes you obviously ignorant and brainwashed by the simpleton's capitalist brainwashing in the public schools!! Do you know who has spent billions pushing to get their way in school textbooks to get their little economic catechism of pseudo-voluntarism and capitalist incentive-investment-profit lie jammed into textbooks??? THE RICH!!! Great cadres of them!! Look it up!!
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ryeable The biggest complaint about housing the poor seems to be that they won't take care of the place because they don't care about it, resent the process that put them there, and the remote landlord who collects high rent so they can never save anything back. These housing projects become hovels outside the apartment door, and inside, as nobody believes it their job to clean it up and protect it.
But if you give them that one decent home that is their free and clear, that no one may take away from them, and they may not have another one in their whole lives, they are stuck there, and they will either develop pride of place or live in the squalor they permit.
Some may fail, but most will not, they will have a home to build their life from. So you see, it is NOT a matter of the impoverished BEING impoverished by their own improvidence and sloth, which is the right-wing distortion of things, but by not being allowed control and security in their lives.
Landlords have long know how to diminish people using money in order to control them into cash cows paying monthly tribute, and what it does to their souls and their children. We have to stop them.
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ryeable Irrelevant, it is the correct view of what is fair. Unless you give people their inherent right to live on the earth they were born on without owing you money per month, otherwise you have become a brigand, enslaver, a bandit, a criminal. Whatever people are is just not your fucking business. You were not put on earth to make sure they pay you money for land you had no more right to than they do. ANY claim you make that you "own" their house, residence, domicile, makes you a criminal enterprise and degrades their life for your benefit. It is theft, it is absconding, and it is WRONG!!
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