Comments by "doveton sturdee" (@dovetonsturdee7033) on "Imperial War Museums"
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@raghave1043 Nonsense. Actually, the Bengal Famine had a number of causes, among which were the number of refugees from Japanese held areas, the inability to import food from those same areas, stockpiling by hoarders and, perhaps worst of all, the Bengal administration, which tried to minimise the crisis. The worst that could be said of Churchill was that he should have known what was taking place, but didn't. After all, in 1943, he had little else to worry about.
You could also add the refusal of FDR to allow the transfer of merchant shipping, by the way. What is without dispute, except by those who choose to blame Churchill for everything since the Black Death, is that once he did find out, he transferred food distribution to the British Indian Army, and had grain convoys diverted from Australia to India.
I appreciate, of course, that you won't believe any of this, as it doesn't suit your agenda.
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@jetaddicted Which Indians? There were around 600 Indian (Muslim) mule handlers, in four companies. Three companies were evacuated, although the fourth, on detached duty on the Maginot Line, was captured. Those who reached Britain were actually honoured with marches through a number of towns (the newspapers of the time confirm this), and Britain's, the toy firm, even produced models of them, for heaven's sake.
Actually, when the Belgians surrendered, a British Division, commanded by Montgomery, as it happens, undertook a difficult night transfer to block the resulting gap in the allied line.
I have never understood why people like you, with no actual knowledge, insist upon displaying you ignorance and prejudice in such a manner. Perhaps you might try to explain?
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Oh dear, the distorted revisionist claptrap about the Bengal famine yet again.
Actually, the Bengal Famine had a number of causes, among which were the number of refugees from Japanese held areas, the inability to import food from those same areas, stockpiling by hoarders and, perhaps worst of all, the Bengal administration, which tried to minimise the crisis. The worst that could be said of Churchill was that he should have known what was taking place, but didn't. After all, in 1943, he had little else to worry about.
You could also add the refusal of FDR to allow the transfer of merchant shipping, by the way. What is without dispute, except by those who choose to blame Churchill for everything since the Black Death, is that once he did find out, he transferred food distribution to the British Indian Army, and had grain convoys diverted from Australia to India.
I appreciate, of course, that you won't believe any of this, as it doesn't suit the agenda.
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Dynamo reduced a catastrophe to a mere defeat. For the Royal & Merchant Navies, it was a remarkable victory, and for Bertram Ramsay a triumph. What a pity that the recent 'Dunkirk' movie seemed almost to write the Royal Navy out of the story, in favour of the 'Little Ships' myth.
What a pity, also, that the subsequent evacuation of 192,000 troops from French Atlantic ports, Operation Aerial, has, apparently, been lost to history.
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@nukni4225 Churchill would have known about a similar phrase used by Garibaldi. Between the wars, Churchill contemplated writing a biography of Garibaldi. The phrase Garibaldi used was ' "I offer hunger, thirst, forced marches, battle, and death," which was hardly stolen by Churchill.
However, that wasn't what you claimed. You wrote ' Remember his "we shall fight in the mountains, we shall fight on the beaches ..." Stolen from Garibaldi,' and you cannot produce a source to justify your statement.
Therefore, you should not muddy the waters. You should apologise for your false claim, or concede that you are a liar.
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@Boppy-B-B How is that 'segregation?' Gurkhas did, by the way have their own officers, as also did Indian formations.
Within an 'Indian' Brigade, by the way, there were usually three battalions. Two were Indian, and one British. Read about, for example, 4th Indian Division at 2nd Alamein, which had three infantry brigades, consisting of 3 British & 6 Indian, battalions.
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@msreviews5576 Actually, Churchill had significant influence on the strategy of the Western Allies throughout to war. One of his major achievements was to dissuade George Marshall from forcing through his ideas about a landing in France in 1942 or 1943. The Island he saved, by the way, together with the Commonwealth & Empire, remained the dominant force in the west until the last nine months of the war in the west. Certainly, D-Day would never have been possible without the British & Canadians.
He didn't, by the way, 'win the war,' which is why I have never claimed that he did. The war was won by a great alliance, with the Soviet Union playing the major part on land. Churchill, and the British resistance in 1940-41, made possible that resistance.
Churchill didn't 'fade away' after the war, either. He was Prime Minister again from October 1951 until April 1955, when he stepped down at the age of eighty.
Finally he didn't make any reference to a "shall reign a thousand year " empire. He actually said, 'if the British Empire and its Commonwealth last for a thousand years, men will still say, "This was their finest hour."
Did the words 'Commonwealth' & 'if' pass you by?
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@jamesb2166 So? In 1929. The Labour party won 287 seats with 8,048,968 votes, the Conservatives won 260 seats with 8,252,527 votes.
In February, 1974, Labour won 301 seats with 11,645,616 votes. The Conservatives won 297 seats with 11,872,180 votes.
These anomalies do occur in any constituency based electoral system from time to time.
The following is perhaps more symptomatic of the general mood in the country:- The 1950 Election, which Labour narrowly won, showed a swing to the Conservatives of 4.3% and a swing away from Labour of 1.6% There was a further 4.6% swing towards the Conservatives in the election of 1951.
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@kalyana9705 Are you really deluded enough, or gullible enough, to believe that, at a time when 2.5 million Indians had volunteered to join the Allied forces, Churchill would have engineered a mass famine in the sub-continent? Presumably, you are not a member of Mensa!
Actually, the Bengal Famine had a number of causes, among which were the number of refugees from Japanese held areas, the inability to import food from those same areas, stockpiling by hoarders and, perhaps worst of all, the Bengal administration, which tried to minimise the crisis. The worst that could be said of Churchill was that he should have known what was taking place, but didn't. After all, in 1943, he had little else to worry about.
You could also add the refusal of FDR to allow the transfer of merchant shipping, by the way. What is without dispute, except by those who choose to blame Churchill for everything since the Black Death, is that once he did find out, he transferred food distribution to the British Indian Army, and had grain convoys diverted from Australia to India.
I appreciate, of course, that you won't believe any of this, as it doesn't suit your rather prejudiced agenda.
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