Comments by "snuffeldjuret" (@snuffeldjuret) on "Thunderf00t" channel.

  1.  @Damien.D  "totally unrepresentative of what spaceflight is" yeah, landing rockets rarely takes place. In fact, only SpaceX does that ;).
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  2. tbh "BFR" main real goal has to be to put up starlink satellites.
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  3.  @shekarnt  not a very good comeback mate.
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  4. 15:31 thunderfoot saying the twin booster landing isn't impressive. Where do you get off mate?
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  5.  @BenderLens  its funny how people like you really have to downplay the accomplishment of SpaceX to fit your agenda.
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  6.  @BenderLens  "I'm not downplaying them, I'm being realistic." No, you are trying to downplay as much as you can without sounding ridiculous.
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  7.  @whateverrevetahw6846  if that is the best you can come up with, all I can say is good luck with your crusade, you are going to need it :P.
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  8.  @whateverrevetahw6846  again, does not address what I wrote :). You must have been so furious when SpaceX won the HLS contract :).
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  9.  @whateverrevetahw6846  what makes you think that the Falcon 9 launches at a loss?
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  10.  @whateverrevetahw6846  because it is fun to see you try your best to avoid answering relevant questions. Musk haters are so desperate that it is actually entertainment to see them huff and puff.
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  11.  @whateverrevetahw6846  I'm not on a crusade, I'm just not joining yours. I know that upsets you, but that doesn't mean I am on a crusade. I know you have difficulties understanding nuance and that hyperbole is your friend, but you should really understand at least that.
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  12.  @whateverrevetahw6846  "... the biggest fraud that ever lived ..." That is not Elon, mate. As I said, you have difficulties understanding nuance and hyperbole is your friend. "... but you are instead spending an equal amount of time to do the opposite ..." That is not what I am doing. I am here poking and prodding you to see how you will huff and puff each time.
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  13.  @whateverrevetahw6846  The success of Tesla and SpaceX do enjoy me, as well as your misery.
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  14. 13:35 no, look at the Buran, the Russian space shuttle.
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  15.  @NazmulIslam-ko6wq  :D
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  16. the more Elon delivers, the angrier they get :P.
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  17. I think what is often missing is that the whole landing and reusing thing is just a bonus really. If the rocket goes up, it is a success, and this is something Starship actually does already.
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  18.  @extrastuff9463  but the economical success of Starship comes from its ability to put Starlinks in orbit. The rocket will be a success even if no human ever flies on it. The project is pushed by a dream, but we have to remember that success can come from more things than fulfilling that outrageous dream. "... as thunderf00t pointed out building a more or less functional habitat with robots first would be nice to have for humans to not die." And that is what Starship can help with, bringing those robots there. Not sure how you think of this as an this or that. Starship is designed for massive payloads, great, isn't that exactly what you want for Mars? I am really puzzled by your anti-Starship stance here :P. They are not going to bring all that stuff to Mars using the SLS if you catch my drift...
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  19. 3:07 I'd be interested in the military capabilities of potential enemies, but that's just me :P.
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  20. hm, I would assume they would easily agree on Aliens.
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  21.  @fask69  I think so too, but they have to really nail the Starship landing method.
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  22. as a big fan of Rick & Morty and Elon Musk, 1:04 is too funny :).
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  23. Peter Beck is an engineer...
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  24. not really ,what elon is trying to do is not easy, and he goes all in. Failure is almost expected.
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  25.  @charlidog2  so?
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  26. what specifically did he say about the "1-year release date"?
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  27.  @tjnucnuc  I thought he was talking about a prototype?
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  28.  @mathewferstl7042  blood "testing". Tesla cars actually work as cars.
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  29.  @mathewferstl7042  depends on what you mean with "real" blood tests. I am sure they weren't all giving the patients wrong information, but a lot did.
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  30. what is there to say, really?
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  31.  @sexyfacenation  they've sent people to space.
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  32.  @Bourinos02  then why isn't the title "spacex fans busted"?
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  33.  @Bourinos02  like what?
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  34. 54:05 hehe yea then maybe you'll learn that they have header tanks for Starship :P.
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  35.  @Tasmantor  I feel sad for you.
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  36. talking about TF fans? :P
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  37. and Thunderfools for TF fanboys. I had one of them telling me that the Crew Dragon 1 mission won't last as long as planned :P.
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  38.  @kal2103  isn't it a kind of known phenomena of physicists to think they know way more than they do? :P
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  39. 16:59 you need to clarify if they are flying that high above ground or above sea level.
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  40.  @sangwaraumo  "Claimed he'd make tunnels/transportation/space flight way cheaper and so soon without having anything to back it up. The evidence? He hasn't done any of those things." funny thing though is that (almost) everyone copies falcon 9 design.
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  41.  @Uachtar  you have totally lost it mate.
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  42.  @sangwaraumo  that it convinces you matters little, what matters is if it convinces those who have a direct economic interest in the issue. "And what part of the design are "they" copying?" In general propulsive landing of the first stage, the fundamental part of the Falcon 9 reusability. Rocketlab's upcoming rocket, the Neutron, has identical legs to Falcon 9 and they plan to land the first stage. Russia's new Amur rocket, identical legs to Falcon 9 and they plan to land the first stage, and identical grid fins as well. China's Hyperbola-2 rocket plans to use same legs and grid fins as Falcon 9 as well. Blue Origin is going to land the first stage of their New Glenn rocket as well. Not exactly the same way, but certainly for the exact same reason as SpaceX does. Even so much that both Bezos and Musk makes the "throw away airplane after one flight" analogy. Others are of course also looking into reusability, but you wanted specific examples.
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  43.  @sangwaraumo  "You realise reusable rockets have been done before Elon, right? TF showed the footage even." You realize I was talking about a reusable first stage, right? (should I be condescending like you, and ask you if you know what a first stage is?) We are talking about space flight here, not close to ground flight. "Even if it did help make rockets overall cheaper, which is hard to prove but certainly possible, it's nowhere near 10 times or even 2 times cheaper currently." How would you even know how much it costs SpaceX to send up a rocket? "And we're not talking with economic interests here ..." I am as that is the only way for us to get an idea if reusability saves money. Neither of us know enough to say anything about the topic, so all we can do is observe those who do know things and are actually in the business. Are you really going to pretend that you know more than all rocket companies in the world? "the topic isn't "can Elon convince economic interests of X". We all know he's capable of getting people to fund him" That isn't what I was talking about. I was talking about quite a number of other rocket companies aiming to do the same thing as SpaceX. "... we are discussing if he fulfills his wild promises." And you can't show he hasn't fulfilled the one about reducing the cost to space. "He doesn't, at least not in the scale or in the time he predicts." Methinks you interpret "could" as "will" when Elon speaks. Do you know the difference?
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  44.  @sangwaraumo  "... though it's an idea that has been around." And? Now sure how this has any relevance to anything other than a potential straw man :P. "Elon promised flights around the moon in 2018 ..." Plans change. You can call it a promise if you want, but that is an unrealistic standard to set. If I say "I'll see you at your place at 5", I am not promising you to see you at your place at 5, I am telling you that is my plan, but it can change. Did he use the word promise? "If your defense of his promise is "someday they will be as cheap as he promised" then sure..." Well, to know what is a fair interpretation I would have to know exactly which words he used, and preferably the context. Do you know all that?
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  45.  @sangwaraumo  I think he misses more predictions than other people, but I think it is quite exaggerated as many times he just expresses possibilities rather than predictions. I really see these misinterpretations all the time. I think it is important to correctly interpret people, especially if you want to be criticize what they say. I mean, if I say "we could land a man on the Moon in 2024", how would you interpret that? Compare that interpretation to me saying "We will se an orbital flight of Starship this year". Surely you can see a significant difference in the level of these predictions? Additionally, it is quite common place to miss predictions in the space business, SLS, JWST, New Glenn, Vulcan, Starliner are the current things that comes to mind right now. Maybe you think all that is scammy as well, fair enough, but I don't think you can take an honest look at this whole situation and see Musk as the worst "scammer" in all of this.
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  46.  @sangwaraumo  just don't call them promises. There is a reason why people say "I promise" when they promise something, and that is because by default something isn't a promise. You have to utter the word promise for it to be a promise. It is not fair game to misinterpret something and then to laugh at that misinterpretation. That is easily qualified as unfair.
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  47.  @sangwaraumo  if it is a prediction, sure, but if it is an unrealistic wish/hope/desire you might as well just call it that. All things spoken about the future aren't the same, so there is no point in conflating them. As an example of all of this. Imagine an event that is about to happen, 10% probability it'll be on day 1 (Monday), 20% on day 2, 40% on day 3, 20% on day 4 and 10% on day 5. Do you think I am reasonable if I say all of these things: It could happen on day one. I hope it happens on day 2. I predict it will happen on day 3. It will happen this week. I wish it had already happened.
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  48.  @sangwaraumo  I'll take that over cynicism and exaggerated pessimism. If the only thing you think is silly is the time line, who cares? That is nothing to devote your life to being hung up on. "Shoot for the moon even if you miss you'll land among the stars" "Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars." In the original form, the phrase "Shoot for the moon" is figurative, meant to inspire people to pursue ambitious goals, reasoning that even if they fail to achieve them, they may still accomplish other great things while trying."
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  49.  @sangwaraumo  "There's a difference between pessimism and common sense." Sure, but it wasn't common sense for humans to land on the Moon in 69. Was it common sense to make a helicopter for Mars? (Look up TF's critical video about that) "... like it's also okay for me to criticize them and have a laugh." Yeah, and it's OK for me to laugh at your interpretations of what Elon says. "No one's dedicating their lives to being hung up on anything here, just having a chat to pass time." I dunno, I have seen some devoted Elon haters out there :P. One guy I chatted with in a TF video's comment section literally said he don't believe the Crew-1 mission will last until May as planned... :P. Now let's talk about other space companies. What do you think about this news from Wed 9 Mar 2016: "Private space travel company Blue Origin expects to launch its first people in 2017, company founder Jeff Bezos said on Tuesday during a tour of the venture’s research and development site outside Seattle." They still haven't done it, but my guess is that they'll actually do it this year. Do you think that one is more or fewer years delayed compared to New Glenn? :P
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  50.  @sangwaraumo  don't conflate hope and wishful thinking though, quite different concepts. I seriously doubt there will be 1 million people on Mars by 2050, but I hope it'll happen because that would be cool. This is not wishful thinking, wishful thinking would be believing it would actually happen by that year. I seriously doubt Elon thinks it'll happen as he knows he sets unrealistic timelines to foster motivation. Do you think he believes it'll happen? Same with Dear Moon, you can see he has his doubts about the 2023 year, but he can't really say he doesn't believe in it as he wants people to work hard towards the goal of getting there, so it won't be delayed more than necessary. So, you don't want to laugh at Blue Origins unrealistic timelines? That kind of makes you look like just another irrational Elon hater tbh. I mean, come on... I would have thought that Jeff Bezos would be quite a juicy target for your ridicule. I mean, even though his company is older than SpaceX and he is richer than Musk, they haven't even send any person to space yet.
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