Comments by "Janie Swanson" (@janieswanson2549) on "JRE Clips" channel.

  1. We are omnivores by definition. - an animal or person that eats food of both plant and animal origin.
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  2. They don't even know the definition of vegan and they actually claim to be vegan. They are all victims of extra chromosomes and leftist schools.
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  3.  @bobbyb4024  "Veganism/vegetarianism is growing more and more every year all over the world." "vegetarianism" has no comparison to veganism. Veganism growing from 0% to 0% isn't an accomplishment. No one practices veganism because it interferes with convenience and entertainment.
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  4.  @bobbyb4024  "Well in the US it went from 1% of consumers identifying as vegan to 6% in 3 years." People lying about being vegan make up 100% of people that identify as vegan. So like I said 0% to 0%. "That's just the US alone and worldwide it is increasing so I don't see your point." Vegans don't exist in the modern world by definition. That's the point.
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  5.  @Indrave_2274  "Even if vegans don't exist, whatever they'd be, they'd still be more ethical than you." Bold statement for knowing nothing about me. How do a bunch of liars and hypocrites have better ethics than me? Oh, do explain. "But keel hiding under your semantics and your denying of statistics lol." How do you expect me to "keel" hiding? So you have nothing to refute and just decided to babble?
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  6.  @Indrave_2274  It seems that you're only capable of ad hominem and assumption. I never said owning a phone means you don't practice veganism. I am simply stating that eating or using animal products means you're not vegan and using animal products when it is possible and practicable to avoid them is not practicing veganism. Just the facts.
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  7.  @Indrave_2274  "You did say owning a phone means someone doesn't practice veganism because they contain animal-derived materials - just in another comment." Quote it. When you try to find a quote maybe you will read it slower and see that I never said that. "So I guess lying is alright as long as it suits your ego." That's what you're doing. Stop projecting. "My assumptions are pretty fair considering your intellectual dishonesty - something vegans seldom have." If by "pretty fair" you mean "literally wrong" then sure. Vegans don't exist in the modern world. If you eat or use animal products you're literally and technically not vegan by definition. "What is your idea of a proper vegan?" Pretty simple. A person who does not eat or use animal products. Convenient for me because that is the definition of "vegan." "Someone living in a cardboard box that lives off particulates in the air? Cause this whole "possible and practicable" thing is not some kind of tangible value." Another assumption as expected. "possible and practicable" is part of the "veganism" doctrine and doesn't make someone vegan. "I remember you said "Vegans don't exist." Oh really?" Yep, really. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. Name one person that doesn't eat or use animal products. Just one. "So I guess animal rights activists can't be called good people because they're not saving animals every waking moment of their lives?" Why do you continue to type fan fiction? I never said this. "I think you need to look up what "practicable" means" Okay. practicable (adjective) - able to be done or put into practice successfully. It is possible and practicable to stop using youtube's routers and servers (made with animal products) to reply to me. Yet you continue to do it proving you don't follow the veganism doctrine. "Meticulously scouring one's lifestyle for minute instances of unnecessary actions does not fall under that definition." I know this. I am just pointing out the blatant uses of animal products. If you eat or use animal products you're not vegan. If you eat or use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid then you don't practice veganism. It is possible to practice veganism while not being vegan. This is where many of you virtue signaling liars get confused. It is currently not possible to be vegan in the modern world. Pretty simple. No need to overcomplicate the definitions. More assumptions, lies, and fan fiction. Try again.
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  8.  @Indrave_2274  Why would I use google definitions when the Vegan Society's definitions are the official definitions? Still can't find the quote that you lied about? Give up yet? "As you can see, your statement that "it is possible to practice veganism while not being vegan" is incorrect." As you can see you lied again. "See, I can use definitions to make me look smart too." You cherry picked definitions. That doesn't make you look smart. It makes you look desperate. "Not necessarily. According to the "possible and practicable" aspect of veganism, if someone is starving on a desert island, they are still vegan if the kill an animal to survive." Making inane comments on youtube isn't survival. Try again. "I can only wonder why you go through so much trouble trying to be the semantics police." Says the person cherry picking definitions to fit your own personal bias instead of using the official definitions. "It's hard to imagine it's anything other than an illogical hatred toward vegans that stems from something else." I don't hate vegans. I don't hate unicorns or fire breathing dragons either. It must suck to have to make things up to push a narrative. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. This is the official definition of "vegan" created by the Vegan Society. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose;" This is the official definition of "veganism" created by the Vegan Society. Notice they are different words with different definitions? Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle and is not the definition of a person. Failure or success at practicing veganism doesn't make you vegan. To be vegan you simply must not eat or use animal products. To practice veganism you simply must not use animal products when possible and practicable to avoid them. No need to overcomplicate things. I win.
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  9.  @Indrave_2274  " I see no point continuing this conversation when you accuse me of cherry picking definitions " It's true. You literally cherry picked definitions instead of using the official definitions created by the Vegan Society. "(definitions that are both from Google lmao)" Google "flat earth." I guess that is real now according to your logic.... "and not addressing some of my points while just saying I'm wrong." I did address some of your points. I even quoted you. Still can't find the quote of me claiming that owning a phone means you don't practice veganism? Are you going to hire a team to help you search? 😂 "You are very strange." So you part with an ad hominem because you realize you lost the argument? Thanks again for the easy win I guess.
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  10.  @Indrave_2274  "Not ad hominem, just my honest opinion. I did find your quote, however:" Name calling instead of addressing the argument is an ad hominem attack... Aww....you found a quote and the context is about being "vegan" not practicing "veganism." I maintain the two are different words with different definitions. You can indeed practice veganism while owning a phone. I understand emergency use of a communications device does fall under the doctrine of "veganism." That said, it is made with animal products and does not fall under the definition of "vegan." So owning or using a phone means you're not "vegan." "Individual people aren't vegan because of the asphalt on the roads?" Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or "USE" animal products. This is the official definition of vegan created by the Vegan Society. Asphalt roads are made with animal products and using them means you're using animal products. "That makes no sense under the official definition of vegan by the vegan society, as choosing not to drive isn't necessarily practicable." What doesn't make sense is you're again conflating the words "vegan" and "veganism." The definition of "vegan" has nothing to do with "possible and practicable." "You know, as consistent as you probably appear to yourself, you omitted a part of the official vegan definition when listing it." You're lying again. Vegan and veganism are still different words. "Care to share since you're so good at being honest?" I guess I will cut and paste a previous reply. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. This is the official definition of "vegan" created by the Vegan Society. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose;" This is the official definition of "veganism" created by the Vegan Society. Notice they are different words with different definitions? Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle and is not the definition of a person. Failure or success at practicing veganism doesn't make you vegan. To be vegan you simply must not eat or use animal products. To practice veganism you simply must not use animal products when possible and practicable to avoid them. Try reading slower this time.
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  11.  @Indrave_2274  "Yeah you've definitely got some problems 😂." More ad hominem as expected. "Just understand that people, myself included, will continue to call ourselves vegan because truthfully, these semantics are unproductive." I understand that virtue signaling liars and hypocrites will continue to be virtue signaling liars and hypocrites. "This is because the basic, common-sense definition of a vegan who is someone that doesn't needlessly torture animals for their taste pleasure." And another unofficial definition because you refuse to accept the actual definitions. You're fine using products made with animal products from the same animals that everyone else uses. Using "taste" as an excuse to be a hypocrite is funny. "And that is where the possible and practicable issue comes into play:" Again, that is the veganism doctrine and not the definition of vegan. "You saying vegans don't exist because they don't fit the definition is like saying good people don't exist because they're not perfect exemplifications of what "good" is defined as." I am literally and technically correct. You're free to remain in denial of the facts as it won't change them. Still waiting for that quote. "You did say owning a phone means someone doesn't practice veganism because they contain animal-derived materials - just in another comment." Keep looking. Maybe one day you will find it. You could ask your parents for help. Anything else? Are you going to continue using fan fiction to justify your intentional and needless use of animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid? It baffles me that you people think replying to me or making inane comments is a necessity of life.
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  12.  @Indrave_2274  "I like how you think definitions translate into how the real world could work." Okay... "It's ironic that you're just objectively wrong about how people could conduct themselves with regards to veganism, as if your idea of someone following the ethical principle of veganism (possible and practicable) to a tee would not be the shittiest experience ever. " I see... So you justify your denial and hypocrisy because convenience and entertainment is more important than simply being honest. "Remember, well-being is one of the major variables when considering what is vegan and what is not." You continue to justify using animal products for convenience and entertainment. "So in conclusion, if you value well-being, then yes, unnecessary things like replying to you do culminate into something that can be called necessity." You would have never seen this comment if you weren't using animal products needlessly in the first place. So you were justifying your own hypocrisy before you ever found me to reply to. "We simply could not function on an individual, let alone societal level if everyone tried to employ your "definition" ideology." Sure we could. You virtue signaling liars and hypocrites think you have to lie and be hypocrites to help animals for some reason. It's entirely possible to help animals without lying about being vegan or lying about practicing veganism. It turns out "not lying" is harder than just being honest. "I encourage you to think about how your life would be if you tried to follow your own advice. " I already do. I don't lie and practice hypocrisy to virtue signal to strangers on the internet. " Meaning, anything that is technically not a necessity is off-limits;" I never lied about being vegan or pretended to practice veganism so these things don't apply to me. "But I suppose anything that's not a definition is just "babble" lmao." You're free to derail this to ethics and morals as long as we stop talking about liars and hypocrites like yourself. "Nothing you have said thus far holds any significance in reality." You're confusing the facts I used with your own personal fan fiction. Simply put. You're not vegan if you eat or use animal products. That doesn't mean that reducing your personal use of animal products is a bad thing. You're not practicing veganism if you use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid. That doesn't mean that reducing your personal use of animal products is a bad thing. Anything else? Just more inane babble and justifications for being a liar and a hypocrite?
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  13.  @Indrave_2274  "Lol it's sad you think people like me are virtue signaling just because we aren't as ornery as you about your definitions." That's not true at all. You're virtue signaling by claiming to be things you're not. "I think you may be narcissistic?" I don't meet the criteria. "It would certainly explain why you think definitions are significant but people's actions aren't" When peoples actions are in direct conflict with their claims it is significant. Telling others they should stop doing things while continuing to do the same things yourself is hypocrisy. "Us "lying" is just not really caring about the stupid things you care about." Like I said. You prefer to lie about being what you are and what you believe rather than just being honest. "We use our time actually doing productive things and not reading the Merriam-Webster." I am using the definition created by the Vegan Society...not Merriam-Webster. Your continuing deflection of that basic fact is the most telling of all. "Crazy to thing this whole debacle was just about you thinking everyone should have the same irrational concerns that you do." Crazy to thing huh? I don't think (or thing) everyone should or shouldn't do anything. I am just pointing out the lying and the hypocrisy. It's isn't my fault you people continue believing you must lie. Again, nothing new. Just a bunch of inane babble that doesn't refute anything I have stated or the facts.
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  14.  @Indrave_2274  Another load of babble. Your opinions don't refute the facts that I laid out. You should look up the difference between facts and opinions.
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  15. Can you name the study that proves this or did you make it up?
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  16.  @spiritualcleanse7115  The debunked study that didn't have a control group, had meat in the diet, used vitamin/antibiotic injections, and included cheese.... Any actual study?
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  17.  @spiritualcleanse7115  Nope. The 11 articles that came out years ago. Look up the China Study and Denise Minger. Good to see you have nothing to refute me.
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  18. Because you're using appeals to emotions. Two of those things can't be done to animals anyway. Torturing isn't the industry standard. You're just as non-"vegan" as the rest of us. No need to pretend you are different.
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  19.  @vishusharma1180  "Murder" is uniquely human and illegal. Livestock are not human. You're making things up and appealing to emotions. Thanks for the win and your concession.
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  20.  @vishusharma1180  Thanks for agreeing with me even though you don't know it. "Someone" is also a uniquely human word and only applies to humans. someone - an unknown or unspecified person; some person. Livestock animals aren't people. Thanks for the easy win and your ongoing concession.
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  21.  @vishusharma1180  "Murder" and "someone" are uniquely human. They don't apply to animals other than humans. Thanks for admitting you use animal products needlessly for entertainment because you didn't refute me. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  22.  @vishusharma1180  Two replies? Unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? - the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. Thanks for admitting you use animal products because you didn't refute me...again. You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment. I accept your concession because of your denial and inability to refute me
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  23.  @vishusharma1180  Who said I eat blood or flesh? I guess you're only left with false accusations since you can't refute me. You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment. YT is an entertainment platform. Animal based stearic acid (livestock tallow) and animal based activated carbon (livestock bones) are the industry standard in processor manufacturing. How are you commenting without using something with a processor? All you have is denial, false accusations, dishonesty, deflection, name calling, projection, and making things up. Thanks for the win and I accept your ongoing concession.
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  24.  @vishusharma1180  Another two replies eh? Guess I was right about you not being able to keep your thoughts together on your diet. I use animal products needlessly for entertainment just like you and everyone else here. YT servers are not your phone. Just debunked you again. You fund the use of animal products just like me and everyone else here. It seems you should be complaining at yourself instead of me. It doesn't matter if they "can be" manufactured without using animal products. The fact is that they ARE manufactured with animal products. "If if if if" is not an argument. Thanks again for automatically admitting you use animal products needlessly for entertainment since you can't refute me. Good to see you have nothing to refute me and are reduced to insults, triggered commenting, denial, and fan fiction. Thanks for the win and your ongoing concession.
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  25.  @vishusharma1180  You keep arguing in a circle. I state a fact, you deny it, then I restate the fact. Good to see you still can't refute me. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  26.  @vishusharma1180  I know you responded. You just didn't respond truthfully and factually. You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment. Fact. You're not what you claim because of that. Fact. " your intial statements were animals' suffering doesn't matter" You're being dishonest again. I didn't say that. You're making things up because you have no argument against what I actually said. Everything else you're going on about is irrelevant. Thanks for another easy win. I accept your ongoing concession due to your denial, name calling, and inability to refute me.
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  27.  @vishusharma1180  Thanks for admitting you're not "vegan" and are unable to refute me. You use animal products needlessly for entertainment that are "possible and practicable" to avoid which is contrary to the definition of "veganism." I accept your ongoing concession since you have nothing to refute me.
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  28.  @vishusharma1180  Just more denial and nonsense? Thanks for the win and your ongoing concession.
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  29.  @vishusharma1180  All of your arguments are just name calling, denial, dishonesty, and insults. You state no facts relevant to the conversation. You automatically concede when you resort to name calling and dishonesty. I don't know what more you want from me. I have proven my point with facts and you don't accept facts and rely on your feelings instead. That's why I continue to accept your concession because you have nothing to refute me. Thanks for another easy win and your ongoing concession.
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  30.  @ohdontchaknow  Sure it does. Stop making things up.
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  31.  @ohdontchaknow  "Why would you think I'm making things up?" How would I know why you decided to be dishonest? Liver has carbs. Sausage has carbs. Both meat and both contain carbs. Thanks for admitting you were dishonest. Anything else?
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  32. American peanut butter is much creamier than what is available elsewhere. I send peanut butter overseas on occasion to friends in the UK that love it.
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  33. @qwerty Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? Go ahead and evade this simple question. We both know you will.
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  34.  @TwoPyramid  The most compelling argument is a plant based only diet is unhealthy. Another compelling argument is the same people who claim to be against using animal products use them just like normal omnivores. They derive more worth from pretending to be against it than actually practicing what they preach. Everyone here uses animal products. Some people just accept the fact while others stay in denial while using a doctrine to justify the needless use of animal products.
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  35.  @amizan8653  You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people eat for entertainment pleasure. Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment? I know you won't answer this directly and honestly, but I want others to see you're just a hypocrite. I predict you will ignore the question, go into denial, ask me which animal products (proving you don't do your own research, and/or you will justify your needless use of animal products with a doctrine.
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  36. You consume animal products. Why would you say so many vile things about yourself?
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  37.  @markraymond7235  Can't answer the question? I accept your admission.
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  38.  @markraymond7235  What an incredibly evasive and predictable reply. Thanks for your admission.
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  39. None of those teammates are vegan. They use animal products. Just a bunch of liars pretending to be vegan.
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  40.  @redragna3648  So you're saying none of them use animal products despite animal products existing in smart phones, computers, servers, refrigerators, televisions, microwaves, etc..? That's a bold statement. I said they "use" animal products. Notice I said nothing about a dietary pattern.
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  41.  @robertthomas3364  Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be vegan?
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  42. @CasualDude Nah. Can't argue the opposite at all. None of the people now claiming to be vegan are vegan.
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  43. @Preston W "You're not vegan" Beat me to it. You're not vegan either. "I can't fathom why someone adhering to a philosophy about reducing harm would say "LOL, to each their own" when it comes to murdering animals." Can't murder livestock. Murder is uniquely human. No one adheres to the veganism doctrine. You're the perfect example of a hypocrite and liar that pretends to be vegan. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You use animal products. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." You use animal products that are possible and practicable to avoid. You're not vegan and you don't practice veganism. You're just a typical liar and hypocrite that pretends to be vegan for attention. You automatically lose any rebuttal by being the liar and hypocrite you are.
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  44. @molek You admitted he was right....lol Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it?
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  45. "maybe if joe did not take 300 suplements he would not have such a big problem going into the bathroom" "suplements" is not a word. He never said he had a problem going into the bathroom. Why are you making things up?
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  46.  @joaosilva-ji1ve  "He said on carnivore diet i have explosive experience in the bathroom." Okay? He never said he had a problem going IN TO THE BATHROOM. Suplements is still not a word.
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  47. That's odd. They are currently taking reservations. They are even looking to hire a full time line cook.
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  48. "I’m vegan because I won’t kill an animal unless it’s life or death" You're not vegan. "I hope that we evolve passed animals suffering as part of human culture." We won't anytime soon.
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  49.  @keeganreddy3126  "please think before you type..." Advice you should follow. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. You use animal products intentionally and needlessly. I don't care about your dogs or cats. I am typing about you personally. "I understand that there are people like you who would not do the same." So you're making assumptions based on what? Try again...maybe without the assumptions.
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  50.  @keeganreddy3126  "Thanks for confirming my stance as a vegan as I do not use any animal products for myself." Aww...got you. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with and/or contain animal products that you use every time you comment. You're literally using animal products to reply to a stranger. I made no assumptions. You seem to be uneducated on the subject. Try again.
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