Comments by "Hobbs" (@hobbso8508) on "Bloomberg Television"
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@aalvarez2914
"half the people who fell ill with delta in Israel were fully vaccinated"
Israel's exact wording was "as many as" meaning 50% is their upper limit. The population is also 57% vaccinated, meaning you are still safer to have it. Their predictions based on what they've seen are 88% efficacy. It's possible that the vaccinated are being effected at a high rate due to them being outside unmasked and travelling more.
"but they do not stop you from getting infected or spreading it to others"
Actually they do. That 88% efficacy is the immunity rate. Only 12% can be infected.
"That only happens after you’ve actually been exposed to the virus, like many of us already have."
For how long though? Similar reinfections can also happen, same as the vaccine.
"That’s when you build a mucosal secretory Iga antibody layer and response, which is what protects you from being infected and spreading it to others."
They're actually reviewing a vaccine that does specifically this, but that's not to say that the existing vaccines don't do this at all.
"These only give your body awareness of a piece of the spike protein too, versus people who’ve gotten over the real virus, who’s immune system now knows the full virus and can detect variants better too."
The spike protein targets a specific area of the virus. Without this natural immunity may develop any number of methods to stopping the infection. This means the ability of your body to stop variants is a guessing game, as you don't actually know how your body decided to fight the virus.
"That’s fine but there’s also no long-term safety studies on reprogramming live human cells to start creating custom proteins with lab-sequenced mRNA wrapped in polymerized antifreeze which is what the lipid shells are."
you're joking right. Reprogramming cells to create custom proteins is a daily affair.
"There are people dying from the vaccine they are downplaying and pretending their deaths had nothing to do with it, young people who had very little risk from the virus itself."
Very few. So far the vaccines are far safer than the virus. Also, with new variants coming out and hospitalisations effecting younger and younger people with the new Delta variant, the idea that things aren't going to get worse for the unvaccinated, no matter their age, is ridiculous.
"There is a backwards desperation to prevent there being a control group, because they don’t want it known a lot of unvaccinated people are doing just fine without it."
Actually the control groups are required to be offered the vaccine after the clinical trials have concluded due to ethical reasons. It's literally illegal to do so.
"The partial immunity the vaccine provides also lets people get infected and spread it, just with milder symptoms and creates evolutionary pressure for mutations too."
The 94% immunity the vaccines give stops the spread. The other 6% are so mild that the viral load is never really enough to pass it on in significant quantities, nothing like catching it while unvaccinated. Mutations are happening in the unvaccinated. Delta for example is from India, which even now is only 22% vaccinated.
"The people relying on the “vaccine” don’t seem to understand you still need the basics of a healthy immune system, or you’re still going to be infected with mild symptoms if you’re lucky, possibly creating variants and also spreading it to others."
The people not relying on the vaccine risk death as well as all those other things sooo.....
"The clinical claim is the vaccines reduce severe illness and death, that’s it "
Right, but that doesn't mean that's the only thing it does.
"That’s fine but that’s different than conferring immunity anywhere near natural immunity provides, which many already have so they don’t need this extra risk."
Your plan just sounds like letting people die from covid and hoping nobody gets reinfected. Never mind the 600K Americans dead already, this kind of thinking will kill millions. There will be many more with long-term health complications such as heart damage, lung damage and fatigue. This is the dumbest answer.
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@profusionlifetv7183
So not the party trying to restrict human rights 4, 5, 7, 9, 14, 16, 17, 21, 24, 25, 26, 28 and 30?
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@suzannalytle2758 Good job it does all those things then. Also has small business loans and grants, SNAP benefits extensions, vaccine distributions, FEMA Disaster Relief Fund funding, school funding, college funding, child care assistance, senior food assistance, mortgage assistance, WIC program funding, COBRA subsidies, child tax credit expansions and ACA premium tax credits.
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@keepinghealthy3332 8 months is the time between EUA and now, not how long it was in development total. They started developing it months before the EUA, meaning it has been tested for over a year. Their clinical trial alone started almost 14 months ago.
They were also allowed to run concurrent testing. Before the clinical trials cellular and animal trials took place over the course of 3 months, pushing total development time to 17 months. These also overlapped considerably due to Operation Warp Speed.
This is not an unreasonable amount of time considering the overlapping testing and huge number of people in the clinical trial. Vaccines also don't need stage 4 trials as we aren't giving the vaccines to unhealthy people, but to people not yet infected. Usually clinical trails for new medications take so long because the testing pool is expanded several times, putting clinical trials into 4 separate phases. They practically leapt to stage 4 trails, cutting of years of clinicals. Then they skipped stage 4 all together, saving years of work.
For reference, mumps took 4 years to develop, and that was in the 60s without modern technology, massive bursts of funding and an immediate need.
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