Comments by "Hobbs" (@hobbso8508) on "Bloomberg Television"
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@BillyTheKidder You would be correct, assuming that was the only case of the right being violent, but there have been multiple instances of the right politically attacking the left. Take Charlottesville. Some white supremist drove his car through anti-Unite the Right protesters, killing 1 and injuring 28. These attacks are not uncommon, and the rhetoric of Trump's supporters in the last 12 years has only been increasing.
"in which case arguing one party is better than another should seem ridiculous."
Not really. Just because you have to choose between 2 things, doesn't make those things the same. For example: your choice of sandwich filling is Nutella or literal dog shit I found on the front lawn. Still 2 options, they even look similar, but obviously they are very different.
I created that narrative to your response that the election results were fishy. They weren't, Biden won, and arguing Biden cheated is even less nonsensical than arguing Trump cheated. At least one side has the ability to show that the candidate at least attempted to cheat. Unless of course your comment was offhand and has nothing to do with a claim of cheating, which makes it a meaningless statement.
You claim Biden cheated. Can you name some instances of his cheating?
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@BillyTheKidder Your last comment said they rig the game, they cheat. So did Biden cheat or not. Moreover, did he cheat the system, or did he cheat within the system? Trump definitely tried the former, and partially succeeded.
I agree that reasons fornnot wanting to shout your candidate from the rooftops are generally more personal. My point what that incidents like Charlottesville, various right wing shootings, the attack on the Capitol and other situations like that are just points in a huge web of various instances and rhetoric pushed by the right over the last 12 years. I would also point to the nationalistic style of support very common on the right, that requires a huge amount of chest thumping, something less nationalistic people tend to steer away from. You call it cowardice, I personally call the signs unnecessary.
As for the sandwiches, it really doesn't matter what you consider either side, as long as you understand that a choice between 2 is not automatically a choice between 1.
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@BillyTheKidder The historical evidence is that candidates with a more extreme following tend to attract people with more extreme beliefs and more extreme actions to fit those beliefs, such as covering your house in 20 Trump flags or flying the confederate battle flag. Biden supporters tend to steer away from such blatant displays of nationalism and what essentially amounts to thumping your chest like a gorilla to prove your point. They voted rather than shouted, and it worked.
If you really want more examples I can give them, but arguing against it due to an insufficient number of points being made simply because you determined it so doesn't really help you case. Even if these were the only 2 newsworthy examples, it wouldn't really change much. But sure, by all means. I would like to preface this with the fact that Right-wing extremists perpetrated two thirds of the attacks and plots in the United States in 2019 and over 90 percent between January 1 and May 8, 2020.
El Paso Walmart shooting
2020 boogaloo killings
Kenosha protest shooting
Poway synagogue shooting
Jeffersontown Kroger shooting
Pittsburgh synagogue shooting
Planned parenthood shooting
Portland train attack
Charleston church shooting
LAX shooting
Attack on Pennsylvania State Police barracks
2018 mail bombing attempts
These are just the public attacks in the name of right wing ideals. This says nothing for the hundreds of videos and actions of right wing supporters calling for action:
Trump tweeted a video that included the statement "the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat"
Fox News claiming that "All the Democrats have is lying and deception"
Dinesh D'Souza on Larry King claiming that the Democratic left are fascists
Trump proclaiming that only his supporters are true American patriots
Numerous videos questions and attacking Colin Kaepernick as a thug
Numerous videos of people being shot, choked and beaten by the police without repercussions
Militia groups actively preparing for civil war in the lead up to the 2020 election
Increased KKK signups and marches
The direct attacks and lies about Obama including:
Calling him a Muslim and saying he swore in on a Quran
Claiming he was born in Kenya
Saying he is the literal coming of the anti-christ
Calling him Satan
Trump co-chair wishing death on Obama
Syracuse "hang Obama" threats
Warning ISIS of incoming airstrikes before they happened
Failed to stockpile ventilators
Obama Foundation owns mail-in ballot printers
Obama's full name means COVID (seriously, these are just bizarre)
The Capitol attack was just a culmination of years of rhetoric coming crashing down as Trump supporters angrily reach stage 2 of their grief journey. They probably won't get much past that either.
Add to all of this the fact that conservative gun ownership, violence and terrorism are all increasing, and have been increasing for over a decade, at a steady rate. Rhetoric from these conservative groups has been growing steadily. The silent majority is a thing and they voted accordingly.
Also, again, not that this matters, as the absence of what you consider to be an appropriate number of examples is not indicative of there being no issue.
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@jakeglenn2246
> "Facebook Co- founder(“World Economic Forum”) , Bill Gates , Fauci and Big pharma planned C 19 and removed Trump from office.
Interesting claim. Got any evidence for that? Honestly, you think that they started a virus, in China of all places, and spread it all over the world, just to prove Trump is incompetent? Even if you are correct all Trump had to do was not be incompetent.
>Why wasn’t the white house and GOP senators invited to event 201?
Because at every turn they have been working to undermine the whole pandemic response.
>Why weren’t the American people allowed to attend?
Which American people? American people were there.
>Which Big pharma reps were there and why?
Probably the ones producing the vaccine.
>Why was the CIA and NSA there?
Why wasn’t Trump notified?
These are contradictory. I'm sure Trump was notified and has the CIA and NSA acting on his behalf, or he skipped that briefing like he always does. Either way.
>John Hopkins was the organization that also tracked and reported on the C19 actual event!!!
Correct. I'm glad they were there since they obviously know the most about all of this.
>The American people have NOT elected Gates, Fauci, Big pharma or John Hopkins or the CDC to direct our healthcare.
Well, sort of. The CDC head is appointed by the president, who is elected. The rest of them were hosting a private event and invited officials, who decided it would be a good idea. Gates, Johns Hopkins and the rest have no obligation to help people, but maybe they aren't complete sacks of shit like Trump. Gates for instance donated billion upon billions around the world to help people, yet you think he is somehow orchestrating a pandemic just to get at Trump?
>Why is Roxanne S. Austin- Verizon BOD also on BOD of big pharma?
Why not? Maybe because they know a thing or two about business and can provide a unique approach that more pharmaceutically driven individuals cannot?
Here's an idea. If Trump and his personal team are being attacked so hard, why don't they do some investigating and prove it? They appointed judges and had the head of the department of justice on their side, and found literally nothing. No lawsuits, no trials, no evidence. Also, are you saying the virus is fake or the vaccine. Wouldn't the vaccine still be a good thing?
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