Comments by "King Orange" (@kingorange7739) on "Big Think" channel.

  1. Michael 마익흘 Aronson are you fucking trolling now? Are you fucking serious? You literally skipped through the entire sentence. You know what fuck this. It’s proven at this point that you either are in capable or like any desire to try to have any decent argument but instead would rather just resort to petty insults like an insignificant little child. I tried engaging in this conversation like an adult but it’s clear that you have no interest in doing sale so I’m just gonna go now since you are clearly proven that you’re just wasting my time. You can’t even answer a simple question on why do you think mothers should have the choice to abort their child. That’s pathetic for someone who is as hard-core pro-choice as you. Enlighten for al her flaws at least gave a decent argument and tried to have a civil discussion. U have proven u can’t or won’t be able to do even that much
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  2. Michael 마익흘 Aronson right now? Yes. Because it’s clear at this point u don’t even intend to carry out a decent conversation. I can tolerate aggression from opposition. I don’t tolerate trolls and that’s what you’ve been at this point. Ur wasting my time. U have added nothing intellectual to this argument. All u have done is try to use petty insults. U can’t even answer one question I asked over 7 times and ik ur not blind. Maybe ur brain just can’t interpret what u see. Oh well.
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  3. Michael 마익흘 Aronson u had no case to begin with.
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  4. Michael 마익흘 Aronson within my last comment alone.
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  5. Michael 마익흘 Aronson no are u actually going to go back to the topic at hand?
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  6. Michael 마익흘 Aronson brainwashes? Brainwashed on what? Fool
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  7. Enlightened I think he is saying it’s the same principle
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  8. Enlightened I know I still want him to give an answer I’m just saying what I’m guessing
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  9.  @MichaelAronson  Nope. Ur the one being a child here. Literally u cannot even conduct an intellectual argument without petty insults. Answer my question. U made the claim, now be a smart adult and back it. If not that u makes u either a moron, a child, or fraud. So go ahead and prove ur claim.
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  10. Michael 마익흘 Aronson how so?
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  11. Michael 마익흘 Aronson that isn’t an answer. Start talking like an adult.
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  12. Michael 마익흘 Aronson ur a waste of time.
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  13. Michael 마익흘 Aronson wow thanks for the confession. I’ll be sure to tell that to the other u ever respond too as well. So they know not to argue with an idiot.
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  14. Michael 마익흘 Aronson no I’m asking that do u have proof? No u don’t. So stop saying shit u don’t know. Secondly. Stop wasting people’s time.
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  15. Very few bring up religion as far as ik
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  16. Michael 마익흘 Aronson not for all man. I could argue the same for pro choice people. Both sides will have ignorant people. That’s just how people are
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  17. Michael 마익흘 Aronson darn it. Voice to text is always unreliable. I was going to say it is not for all pro lifers.
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  18. nownigel what?
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  19. nownigel I don’t understand what u r trying to say
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  20. nownigel that’s not the point. It’s the same reason why a murder is more angering than death by accident. It should not be up to us to kill a baby.
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  21. Michael 마익흘 Aronson both near equally anger me.
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  22. Michael 마익흘 Aronson I said near equally. Both anger me a significant amount. But I will also look at intentions as well.
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  23. Enlightened the same way it wouldn’t matter for someone killed in their sleep. Saying whether or not they would care doesn’t justify killing them. The same way you can’t murder someone who is suicidal.
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  24. Enlightened also no one says we can’t focus on both improving things for that of born and unborn.
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  25. Enlightened also must I say it again, a thought or sperm by itself does not make a human being. A conceived and fertilized egg is a human being.
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  26. nownigel again life endangering accidents can be used as an exception however that is not most cases of abortion. Also no I am all for birth control. I’m one of the main advocates for it. But once when a baby is conceived then that is a separate human being that should not be allowed to be killed just to dodge responsibility.
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  27. Michael 마익흘 Aronson no I didn’t. I stated how I consider them both horrible.
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  28. Enlightened you realize that human life as in a separate human being beginning at conception has been scientifically proven. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beginning_of_human_personhood for more details. As for the idea of comparing a zygote to a woman is just a question of preference. Some may find it insulting to compare themselves to a baby or a toddler. Yet they are biologically the same species.
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  29. Enlightened as for responsibility. I’m not saying sex is only for children but it runs the risk of it happening. And to me it is neither right nor fair for that “potential baby” (I’ll use ur term) to die is a result of their mistake. People can freely have sex, the same way they can freely drink or smoke. Just because these things are allowed doesn’t mean there are no consequences for them. Sex and pregnancy are the same way.
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  30. Enlightened I don’t disagree that more can be done with animal protection as well. That is not the core of the argument. Human beings are.
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  31. Enlightened also killing someone in a coma by comparison is a valid comparison. Saying that they had memories or experiences if they aren’t present is pretty much no different than never having them. Also by that logic babies after birth would not have half of that either. Also other than conception. What other line could be drawn that would represent them fairly and be consistent with human value? Birth sure as heck is not that line.
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  32. Enlightened also by third trimester a baby is capable of thought and feeling.
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  33. Michael 마익흘 Aronson no not really. Abortion is a immoral bail out by killing a human being for convenience. Abortion has no legal consequences in the slightest so no it isn’t.
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  34. Michael 마익흘 Aronson oh I understand them. Unlike u, he is actually giving decent arguments.
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  35. Michael 마익흘 Aronson the responsibility of ensuring the baby lives. Adoption is giving the responsibility to someone which is an option since it doesn’t kill the kid. By comparison there is not one abortion in the world that will not result in the death of a baby or “fetus”.
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  36. Michael 마익흘 Aronson I did say they were equal in terms of crime. The same way a man who killed 12 people is worse than someone who killed 1. But murder is still murder and killing babies is still killing babies. So i will state hate both actions.!
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  37. nownigel when it comes with killing a baby for convenience? Yes.
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  38. nownigel no. U realize that it’s turning back to pro life. Gradually we are getting more behind our movement. Also the last time a country put full trust in their legal system resulting in 11 million deaths in a genocide so not very valid of an argument. The principal of freedom is not trusting legal systems and keeping their power in check.
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  39. Enlightened then would a woman not be legally obligated to breast feed her baby either if that was the only method to feed it?
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  40. Enlightened in fact to add to my point look at these statistics where it shows that lower income people actually tend to be more pro life than higher income people. And that 51% of women are also tending to be pro life. https://news.gallup.com/poll/244709/pro-choice-pro-life-2018-demographic-tables.aspx
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  41. Enlightened then it’s the same principle. So even in the case when refusing to breast feed is still a form of bodily autonomy, u don’t believe it applies when it neglects the need of the child especially when resulting it to starve to death.
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  42. Enlightened am I correct?
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  43. Enlightened I’m saying this to break down many of the pro choice arguments when they claim that being pro choice looks out for people that in actuality stands against their stance.
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  44. Enlightened I’m not saying this to turn it into a populace argument. Far from that but only that statistics show there are some falsehoods to the people u claim to look out for by being pro choice.
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  45. Michael 마익흘 Aronson yes I do. And yeah I am aware neither are illegal yet which is a problem. Again explain to me why u think killing for convenience is perfectly ok? Go ahead.
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  46. Michael 마익흘 Aronson look at my link.
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  47. Enlightened legally the ladder is a crime. However I am saying as a moral argument that both should be illegal. Because again it’s based on the same principle.
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  48. Michael 마익흘 Aronson I’m saying that both are the same action it’s just a difference in how many that action is performed on. I find both abortions and the doctor’s use morally abhorrent.
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  49. Michael 마익흘 Aronson if it’s not OK then what is it?
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  50. Enlightened Again it’s not just for the sake of moral value but also consistent logic. U said ur self that when it came to breast feed being the only way to feed the baby then u would have no problem with “forcing” the mother to breast feed in order to keep her baby alive. That however is logically inconsistent and intellectually dishonest. Again most criteria’s would agree that The premeditated killing of another human being. Or as it is often called murder is wrong. Now the reason I didn’t call at that is because I acknowledge the legal part that makes it up. At the end though ur logic isn’t consistent. Also to come back at your point with pro life being different. It’s not by much a they are against all forms of abortion. Doesn’t mean we aren’t against procedures to save the mothers life even if it means the baby dies. But that’s not an abortion. And abortion would be a deliberate termination of the fetus and the pregnancy. Which in less than 0.04% chance of happening is not worth justifying all other abortions to accommodate.
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