Comments by "diehardcat" (@diehardcat) on "Asianometry"
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@陈陳-t5c What exactly is the part of my statements not true?
What exactly makes you think Mao was sincere?! LOL! You could only know that if you were Mao himself! But the imperialist thinking has been engrained in the Chinese mind for millennia, so I have a BIG doubt about Chinese sincerity in any era. The only thing you can be sure about China is its humongous greed!
Mao helped because of his experience with the Korean War. He just didn't want another US' client state at China's border. If the US invaded N Vietnam, China had to bring in some millions combat troops and would have spent and died A LOT MORE. So that's why he 'helped', not because he cared about Vietnam more than the USSR! Russia erased 8 billions USD that Vietnam owed her during Soviet time with nothing attached. Now that's 'help'.
You're talking as if the Chinese single handedly defeat the US for Vietnam! LOL! You see? You Chanks are just full of yourselves! That's the problem!
Vietnam lost millions in the war but here you are bragging about 1000 dead Chinese! LOL! One single US' dog, S Korea, already had 5 times more dead and more than twice injured than you Chanks! S Korea had over 300,000 participated too but all in combat operations. So you Chanks were even below S Korea in the level of importance in term of human resources!
In term of financial 'help', the US had spent 1 trillions in today dollar but here you are bragging about China's $20 billions! And whatever China 'helped', not only did it took all back, it also took from Vietnam much more when it destroyed them all in the decade long war at the border in 1979, by its support of Pol Pot in his war against Vietnam, its robbing of Vietnam's islands, its economic and diplomatic isolation of Vietnam and Cambodia one decade after 1978. So actually, China owes a lot from Vietnam, not the other way around!
Vietnam had a very bad experience when Chinese got involved in the battle of Dien Bien Phu and the following Geneva Conference in 1954, so she didn't allow them to do so in the war with the US. The only thing Chinese WERE ALLOWED to do in that war were building and maintaining infrastructures at the areas near the border and defending them. They were forbidden to participate in any ground combat and air defense deep inside Vietnam, so many of your numbers and stories about combat are fake or exaggerated!
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@陈陳-t5c Learn to read!
First, that $20 billion was to save China from much more deaths and financial loss if the US invaded N Vietnam. It's not because China has good will toward Vietnam! If it does, it wouldn't have robbed Vietnam of her islands, attacked her for 10 years at the border, supported Pol Pot who invaded and massacred Viets!
Second, China destroyed all of the infrastructure it built during the Vietnam War when it invaded Vietnam in 1979, robbed islands from Vietnam, supported Pol Pot to attacked Vietnam, got into bed with the US and continued to support him after he was deposed by Vietnam and isolate Vietnam and the non-Pol Pot Cambodia, so China did much more damage to Vietnam than it 'helped', so you should s tf u about China's 'help'!
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@janusjones6519 Using Korea to speculate about Vietnam is really stupid! So what about Afghanistan?! Did the Taliban need Chinese help to wear down the US and outlast it? Didn't the US absolutely control the air in Afghanistan, a lot more so than in Vietnam?! LOL!
And Korea and Vietnam War are very different.
First, N Korea directly crossed the 38th parallel and attacked the South in the first place so the US could argue that N Korea started the war and was the aggressor so it could obtain the UN's mandate and went all in.
In Vietnam's case, N Vietnam didn't cross the 17th parallel and start an all out war against the Saigon regime in the first place, so the US' involvement didn't have a UN's mandate. US troops had illegally entered S Vietnam, it's hard to push it any further
Second, even if the US ignored all the laws, it still couldn't invade the North from the beginning or any other period. Because, in Korea's case, the Seoul regime had successfully established control over the whole South Korea before the war, so when the US went north later, it didn't have to worry about the rear. In Vietnam's case, throughout the war, the US and Saigon regime could only control the cities and big towns in the South, the rest was either in the hand of the NLF or heavily contested, so how could it go north with its rear widely exposed?! N Korea was beat back because it got its rear exposed at Inchon, do you know about that?
AND, Not only the Saigon regime couldn't gain control over the rural area, but it also really weak. If the US wasn't there right by its side, it wouldn't have any control anywhere! It was about to collapse all by itself in 1964 if US' forces didn't jump in to hold it up with both hands! The whole time being present there, the US was trying to keep it afloat and pacify the South but couldn't succeed, so how could it go anywhere else?! In another word, the US didn't even successfully invade S Vietnam, how t f could it invade the North?! You think you're smarter than the US' elite who ran the show at the time?! You think they didn't think about that or wanted to lose on purpose?! LOL!
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@kitschchauvinismus_9394 China has never owned those islands in history so it's not 'historical problems'! It's the problems existing right now as we speak. And it's not 'mainly islands', it's the whole SCS! No country in the whole history of the world has ever had a ridiculous claim like that! Yes, everybody has reasons, but China's are beyond ridiculous! That's the problem.
China probably named the islands in the East China Sea and Yellow Sea even earlier than those in the SCS, but why it didn't draw a line reaching out thousands of miles encompassing those seas too?!
While at it, why didn't China also draw a line around the Moon, claim it and all the space between because Chinese also named the Moon and have been looking at it since long before it could draw a map?! LMAO!
Vietnam had existed as an independent kingdom long before China annexed it over 2000 years ago, so why does your history only start after China's annexation?! On top of that, the southern part of Vietnam has never been part of China, so how can China have any right over its sea and islands?! See? The problem with you Chinese is you are always full of yourselves, even more so than the westerners!
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