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@Haythem93465 If he was parked in a parking spot, then I would agree with you. The problem is that he was passed out in a driving lane. He would have had to had parked in the drive through, gotten out and went down the street, got drunk and somehow managed to not have gotten his car towed during that time. And honestly, if he parked in the drive through lane and got out to go get drunk, he was already drunk then. Unless we are saying that he could have parked, went and got drunk, came back, started driving and then realized he was too drunk so he parked it in the drive through lane. Either way though, he would have been driving.
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@Haythem93465 In that state, I do not believe that it is a DUI to be in the driver seat drunk as it is only a DUI if the vehicle is moving. I believe that it would be much harder to make that arrest. If a witness could testify that he had driven there, then I believe they could make the arrest. They could check the cameras and confirm this. Otherwise, your example that you gave could of actually happened, absent of other evidence to state different. Still, his odds are much better if his keys are not within reach of the driver seat, just to be safe. I wouldn't want to punish people who did decide to stay parked while waiting for someone to come pick them up.
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You act as if Kyle was the aggressor. You act as if his gun is the reason why he was targeted. Kyle was there giving medical aid. He was putting out fires, which seems to be why he was attacked. If he didn't have a gun, he would be dead. If someone else was in his place without a gun, they would be dead.
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The unlawful firing of a taser against a person is considered deadly force in the state of Georgia. Brooks would still be alive if he hadn't fired a weapon at the officers.
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@nosveranvolver Lo Siento, No Hablo Espanol.
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Easier said than done, and that puts a much greater risk to the innocent people around.
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I don't see why they would do that. He was a violent felon on probation who violated his probation by drinking and driving.
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@atlas2819 Tasers are deadly, actually, if misused.
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@atlas2819 Well an example of misuse would be to taser someone longer than required, to continue tasering someone to the point that their heart gives out.
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They sure did, but he stole a weapon from the officers and used deadly force against the officers.
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@notbradpitt2802 I see what you're saying, but I don't think that the situation of the hostage completely reflects the situation. It would be more like there's a person in a room of hostages, AND the person is actively shooting at you. There's risks, but he has the right to defend himself.
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@notbradpitt2802 I believe that cops are human and that their lives matter just as much as any other person. I do not believe that they have an obligation to sacrifice their safety for others. I do know that many choose to do so every day.
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Because he is a violent felon on probation who just violated his probation. He was going to jail and then likely to prison.
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I do agree that it was an inappropriate way to handle the 911 call. However, I don't think it affected the situation. They spent a while being very professional and polite to this man, until he chose to fight the officers and take the officer's firearm and use it on one officer and tried on the other.
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The people who make this about race when it isn't? Agreed. The media is the worst.
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You do when they are running AND trying to fire a firearm at youj.
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Passed out while drunk and driving with drugs in his system, then fighting the cops, stealing their firearm (taser) and firing iat them*
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Well, the suspect did fire a taser at BOTH officers, once before running and then once while running, which is why he was shot.
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@Omni1G 1. The only person that fired the taser that Brooks had in his hand was Brooks. He fired it once at Brosnan before he ran away and while running he fires a second shot at Rolfe, which led to him being shot by Rolfe. You can see the taser being fired at Rolfe. 2. Shooting someone who is running away AND FIRING A WEAPON at you is not considered murder. When someone is running away, there is an assumption that they are fleeing and no longer a threat. However, shooting a firearm negates that. 3. You make a lot of assumptions about what I believe. If you want to address a specific example, I could give you my opinion on it, but I am not going to make assumptions on someone based on their race. Bringing race into it clouds people's judgement. I suggest that you do the same.
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@Omni1G I suggest watching again. It clearly shows brooks firing at both officers.
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Joey Mac Lol. Apparently so.
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They could have, but they shouldn't. Brooks drove drunk, while on felony probation. There's no way he was going home. They needed to make the arrest.
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@emmanuelibe1896 "No police officer has the right to shoot a man without a fire arm" Well, a taser is a firearm, and the suspect was firing it at both officers.
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They tried, it didn't work on him. I don't know if it's because it caught on his clothing, or maybe it was the drugs he had in his system. The officer had already fired all of the shots in his taser, and the other officer couldn't fire his taser because the suspect stole his taser.
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They didn't know that he was unarmed, because he wasn't unarmed after he took the officer's firearm. The officer doesn't know what all the suspect had at that point.
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Well, in this instance the police were justified.
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Well, this wouldn't have been a very serious charge for him, but he was a felon on probation. This would have sent him to prison.
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It was functional but I think one of the prongs missed.
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it doesn't go well, because the man chose to get drunk and fight the officers, stealing their firearm and firing it at them both. 911 should be called before this man drives into their building, a customer's car or even a customer. 911 should be called before this man can take off and drive through traffic. THAT would not go well.
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Because he is on probation probably, he is going to jail or prison one way or another because of this.
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Well, if he didn't run and attack the police officers that is. Clearly he found another option.
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No, he was shooting at someone who had just fired a deadly weapon at the officer.
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It wasn't pulled into a parking space, he passed out while operating a vehicle while drunk and on drugs. The man did drive the vehicle in the parking lot drunk. That isn't even a debate. You say that the man didn't have a weapon, but he did have the officer's firearm that he shot at both officers trying to incapacitate them. If anyone fires a taser at someone, they should expect to be shot.
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Because people are racist and want to make this about race just because the suspect happens to be black in this case. They ignore the facts that the suspect fired deadly force at the officer. I think they are trying to appease the racist mob.
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Agreed. The man knew he was being put under arrest clearly or he wouldn't have fought the officers suddenly. Now, maybe the officer gets in trouble if he isn't following policy but he shouldn't be responsible for this man's death.
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It is bad, but the fault is the druggy criminal who fought the officers and fired a weapon at them.
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"How do you talk for 41 minutes then end up killing a man?" Because the man fought them, took the officer's firearm, used it on one officer, tried to use it on the other officer. This has nothing to do with race.
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He's more likely to miss, shooting an innocent civilian, if he aims for the arms or legs. Also, when responding to deadly force, they are trained to fire at center mass to ensure they take out the threat.
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@gigi_gaming9170 He fought the police officers, increasing their adrenaline, and putting them into survival mode. He steals and uses a deadly weapon on the officers. There were people around in their cars. Even aiming at center mass (assuming that's where he was aiming at least), he still hit one of the cars.
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@timothyvickers8235 He is a violent felon on probation. He commit a crime, endangering the public, there's no way they are not going to arrest him for violating his probation.
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Ignoring that the person who was running was firing a firearm at the officer that he stole from his partner.
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The cop didn't know that. For one, he was not unarmed. He had a taser. If he hits the officer with it, then he now has his gun. He doesn't know if he also has a gun on him, everything happened so fast.
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Agreed, but it has good video shots at least.
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Well, he wasn't parked in a parking spot though, he had been driving drunk and then passed out in a driving lane at a restaurant. He is a felon on probation, so he isn't going to get a ride home, he was going to be taken to prison most likely.
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I feel that if a person fires a firearm at a cop, that person should be taken down. It's unfortunate, but I'd rather error on the side of the officer, when the officer did his job correctly up until that point. It's tough having to make a split second decision.
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@lukesmith1003 I was confused a second when you said that a "taser is not a taser". A taser is a firearm under state law.
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That's not really an option. He didn't know where he was. (He knew he was at Wendy's but he thought he was at another location.) Drinking and driving violates his probation, a judge would need to sign off if he is going to be released again.
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A taser used by a criminal is considered deadly force. There's a difference between a controlled tasing versus a taser in the hands of a violent felon.
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@xbmcdoctors The man wasn't unarmed, he had a firearm / Taser that he used on one officer and just tried using on this officer.
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Well, the man was firing the officer's firearm at the officer. In that moment, he has to make a decision. He can't taser the man, so he pulled out his gun.
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