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You don't know that. I feel bad for the officer who has to live with the fact that he (although it was justified) took someone's life.
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I don't think they had time to grab more weapons to use. They had a taser, which didn't work, so they had to escalate with what they had. At least now he can't harm his children anymore.
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Either way, a taser is considered a deadly weapon.
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He passed out while operating a vehicle due to being drunk. That is incredibly dangerous to just leave him be. It isn't as if he was parked in a parking spot.
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@jackieleonplumbjr1310 There is 100% proof that he was in the driver seat of the vehicle with the vehicle turned on.
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They certainly had reasonable suspicion that he was driving. It isn't as if he was parked in a parking spot. He was passed out in a drive thru lane at a fast food restaurant. If they stopped him at a red light, would you ask the same question, for proof that he was driving?
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When everything happens so quickly, the officer does not know if the man has a gun or not. He knows that the man stole a taser from his partner, but for all he knows he could have taken the gun too. If he uses the taser on the officer, then he could then take the officer's gun and end his life. While tragic, this may have also saved other people's lives as this man has no business being on the road driving drunk and on drugs. None. He made his choice to assault the officers and now he pays the consequence.
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DUI is a crime. You don't think that a cop should have approached a man passed out drunk in a driving lane?
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Okay, so cops shouldn't respond to people drinking and driving?
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I'm just happy the officer got his job back with back pay. Brooks is the cause of his death.
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A taser in the hands of a criminal is deadly force.
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I know, all the suspect did was fight the officers, steal their firearm (taser) and then use deadly force against the officer. The officer should have sat there and taken it like a man.
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Yes, a taser used by a criminal is considered deadly force by law.
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@ralphreyna2219 In the moment, perhaps the officer doesn't realize that. He sees someone firing a weapon at him and has to react. Even then, it can still be used to drive stun the officer. They couldn't taser him, they tried and the man stole the other taser so they couldn't use that one on him.
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I don't know about Brooks being a murderer, although he did use deadly force on the officer, who defended himself.
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If I run backwards while shooting at you, am I not a threat because I am running away? xD If he had actually been running away and didn't turn to shoot at the officer, I would agree with you.
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Well yeah, the guy used deadly force against the cops, they didn't have much choice. That doesn't mean that they want him dead.
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Yeah, he was unarmed excepts for when he used deadly force.
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It was not clear that he was unarmed. He had just fired a taser at the officer, the officer doesn't know if he has another weapon or if he is going to drive stun the officer with the taser.
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A taser is a deadly weapon, this was justified.
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@natas12rm The District Attorney had made a statement here that a taser wasn't a deadly weapon. However, that seems a bit strange, because when an officer used a taser unlawfully just a couple of weeks before this, the same District Attorney stated that a taser is a deadly weapon under Georgia law. Kind of interesting. Those officers involved in the previous incident were charged for Aggravated Assault. Here is his statement made 10 days before the death of Rayshard Brooks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxKN46YdWFg
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It depends on how it is used. If it is used by someone trained in the use of using it, then the chance of death is fairly low, but possible. In the hands of a criminal, or someone using it incorrectly, it can cause someone's heart to stop. I wouldn't trust a violent drunk felon on probation to use it correctly.
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@juandoza5867 I honestly don't know all of the factors that make a taser lethal. I assume that a taser shot to the face might be more serous than one to the leg (but I'm not making that argument here, as I don't know). There are a lot of factors though. I had a friend of mine who died from an officer using a taser, because he wanted to show his power over her and tasered her twice back to back making her heart stop. Under Georgia law, a taser is considered a deadly weapon when used by a criminal.
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It is illegal for the man to walk home. He had his chance to be at home, but he chose toget drunk and do drugs while on probation. That's dumb. He lost his life, likely because he didn't want to go back to prison and chose violence against the officers.
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A taser used incorrectly can be a deadly weapon, very quickly. Just a few weeks before this incident, when an officer used a taser again someone, the city stated that it was deadly force. It would be even more deadly in the hands of a drugged out drunk who just fought two officers and stole their firearm. If there's a criminal shooting a taser at a person with a gun, it doesn't matter if the taser is deadly, because if that person is tasered, then their gun can be taken real quick.
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Everyone who is caught drinking and driving are let sleep in their vehicle? That sounds risky.
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They didn't. He was firing a weapon at them.
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@user-s9eu8ce9fw Show me the time stamp on this video that a kid was shot for having a wii remote. If someone fires a taser at a cop, they should be taken down. If he hit the officer or dry stunned then he could have grabbed his gun.
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@user-s9eu8ce9fw Either way, I'm sure we can agree that this officer wasn't the officer who shot that other person.
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@user-s9eu8ce9fw That's why I said that I'm sure we can agree....
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If he didn't fire deadly force at the officers, he wouldn't have been shot. Race didn't cause him to do that.
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It's not the best idea to let a violent drunk felon run away. I don't think anyone would have suggested this option if this man hadn't been killed. The man was only killed because he fired a deadly weapon at the officers.
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It wasn't murder. Brooks used deadly force under the law when he unlawfully fired the taser at the officers.
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You know that he did have a weapon though...
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Fire a taser at someone with a gun, expect to be shot.
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It wasn't about him escaping, he was firing a weapon at the officers.
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I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.
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I feel that you didn't watch the videos related to this. Yes, it started off with a drunk drugged up felon on parole who passed out while driving his vehicle, who was friendly (as were the officers) at first. However, you are ignoring the parts where the man turned violent against the officers, hit them, took their firearm (taser) and used it on the other officer and tried to use it on this one.
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Exactly. People let his death cloud their judgement, but his death was the fault of himself for using deadly force. People can't separate those two things it seems.
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He wouldn't have been shot in the back if he wasn't trying to shoot the officer while he ran away.
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Driving drunk, passing out while driving. How is that NOT dui?
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It isn't okay for a person to attack police officers, and it is not okay that someone died. However, that death was the fault of Brooks.
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@1draigon It should be if someone fires a weapon at an officer. That's not the officer's fault.
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@Dulus0 The guy has a taser, the officer should have a weapon to defend himself. Pulling out a gun doesn't mean that he is going to shoot it. However being shot at by a taser is a reason to shoot it.
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If someone fires a taser at a cop, they should be shot down.
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You have a person who is drugged up and drunk, driving a vehicle. The correct thing to do would be to arrest him and put him in the drunk tank for the night and let him sleep it off. They had no idea that this man was about to fight them, as both sides were being respectful until the point the man started fighting them. What would you say if they had given him a citation and let him drive home drunk and killed an entire family? It is absolutely not the fault of the girl who called the police. No one should be making her feel bad for what happened. She did what she was supposed to do. This man made the choice to do drugs and get drunk and fight these officers, steal the officer's firearm and fire it against both officers. I don't like to see people being shot, but this man is 100% at fault for his death here.
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Excepts that he was armed and used deadly force as he was running away.
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Maybe. Then that person could have woken up long enough to drive into traffic and taking out a family of 4.
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@BZn4-166atl I am not saying that he wouldn't have slept in a parking spot. There's a reason why I replied with "Maybe." That is one possibility. I am saying that he already passed out while driving drunk, he already made the wrong choices and could continue to make the same bad choice that he already made. That's a risk that takes many lives a year. More than one person per hour dies from alcohol related deaths a year. If we didn't put people in the drunk tank over night, that number would be much higher.
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He had stolen and used the firearm at both officers trying to incapacitate them.
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