Comments by "Geoff Challis" (@Geffo555) on "Channel 4 News" channel.

  1.  @Kkilot . Is that it? What about a reasoned challenge? A clever retort? Is that really all you have?
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  2.  @greeny202ab , Kid? LOL. I'm retired. But thanks. All I've done is remind you that nothing is fixed yet. I'm watching parliament now and I'd say 50/50 at best. Really he needs about 20 Labour MPs to support his deal even if he gets all his Tories onboard. Though it isn't really Boris's deal. The EU suggested this is 2017.
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  3.  @greeny202ab . The letter goes today if the deal is not accepted. That is just the truth. Why are you so set on trying to convince me of something that isn't true? The deal MAY just get over the line anyway. If workers rights had been fully protected even I would probably have supported it. But not this.
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  4.  @greeny202ab  . learn. https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/conservative-party/news/107313/stephen-barclay-confirms-boris-johnson-will
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  5.  @greeny202ab . Not unconstitutional at all. Just parliamentary sovereignty in action. And parliament has just acted again, voting through the Letwin amendment. Boris now has to send the letter or face legal action.
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  6.  @greeny202ab  You keep making declarations about outcomes you have no say in. It would certainly understandable if the EU have just have enough of us. I've had enough idiots like Mark Francois and David Davis. Rabb and Baker are more intelligent but utterly arrogant and repellent. Wise people are patient though.
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  7.  @greeny202ab  And how are the people being benefitted by having their rights eroded? Boris's deal opens the door for massive deregulation. Fools think that refers to bendy bananas and the size of condoms. But really it means your terms and conditions of employment. Did people really know what they were voting for?
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  8.  @glyntutt1586 . Like I said, he refused to go along with something he knows is wrong. The majority of economists regard it has wrong. The majority of directors regard it has wrong. No-deal is not a plan or a strategy. Neither is it democratically justified. A no-deal is just a hole the country falls into as a result of the government's failure to secure anything worthwhile. Why are we having to spend billions on this? Why are we gambling?
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  9.  @glyntutt1586 . You don't seem to grasp the responsibilities of an MP. They are elected to exercise their judgement and knowledge in the BEST interests of their constituents, not simply follow a prescribed doctrine. And Consider Kate Hoey. She represents Vauxhall, which was 77% remain. Has she been forced to adopt a remain stance?
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  10. As for being wrong I'll balance the books. A deal was not easy. They do not need us more than we need them. Liam Fox has not secured 40+ trade arrangements. Canada has not rolled over. And GATT 24 is not a given. And good old Nick has proved himself a man of dignity by resigning. Dignity is rare these days. Too many people are just too addicted to populist BS.
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  11.  @glyntutt1586 . But who is ringing the bell of change? Is it really the "people"? or a powerful elite who want Brexit for their own reasons? You I suspect simply have an ideological aversion to the EU's liberal principles. Do you just believe that a period of suffering will purge the UK? That wasn't what people voted for. Most were just desperate for change. For life to be better, not worse. Leaving the EU has been as miss-sold as PPI.
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  12.  @jameswaugh7024  So on the first one you just don't care. On the second you feel you have a licence to employ sovereignty only where you see fit. (Sovereignty being the ultimate law in the land) And on the third one it comes down to the will of "the people." But the "people" includes all of us. And at least 16 million of us regard Cummings as a devious knobhead.
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  13.  @johnathanpearson3203 . MPs actually voted to trigger Article 50 in the expectation that the government would make an orderly exit with a reasonable deal. Why do you think that MPs are now so against a no deal? Had they wanted to just block Brexit they would have simply blocked A50. That's logical surely.
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  14.  @johnathanpearson3203  . And why am I an idiot? It's Brexiters who are tying themselves in knots.
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  15.  @jameswaugh7024 . The problem you have there is that from a legal perspective the referendum was not binding. So the government doesn't have to do anything regardless of Cameron's declaration. Secondly you have again dismissed the sovereignty of parliament, which MUST have the final say. It's also worth considering that MPs must act in the best interests of the country. (It's in their code of conduct) And must exercise their best judgement in doing so. So on the basis of the leaked report, which is enough to make any sane person pause for thought, I would say that blocking a no deal is their overall responsibility.
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  16.  @jameswaugh7024 . Again, legally Parliament should still have the final say on whether to go with a no deal. Though this is certainly an ambiguous area it is still nevertheless covered on the IOG explainer. https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/parliament-and-brexit-deal
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  17.  @jameswaugh7024 . No. I'm reminding you that parliament has the final say. And MPs must base their judgement upon reality rather than how people feel. Even if there are 17 million of them. They can't just ignore Yellowhammer. It would be negligent. And... "The first duty of a member of Parliament is to do what he thinks in his faithful and disinterested judgement is right and necessary for the honour and safety of Great Britain." Winston Churchill. So unless there is a better prognosis than Yellowhammer MPs must act in the best interests of the country.
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  18.  @jameswaugh7024  . Look. Just take a breath and see it from a neutral position. Committed Brexiters are still looking at the 2016 brochure of a 5 star hotel with an excellent restaurant and huge pool. The problem is that in 2019 the hotel is still just foundations. There is no restaurant. There is no pool. So is it wise to still go? It doesn't matter how many times you wave the glossy brochure if reality is just a muddy building site.
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  19.  @jameswaugh7024  . I'm just pointing out the truth and the paradoxical thinking brexiters are trapped in.
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  20.  @jameswaugh7024 . "fabricated progressive etiquette." LOL. What?
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  21.  @jameswaugh7024 . What a feeble piece of justification. Have you bothered to look at the Sun or Mail in the last four years. it may as well be state controlled propaganda.
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  22.  @jameswaugh7024 . Oh man, that cat has been out of the bag for a while now. Have you seen the Great hack? So save your breath.
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  23.  @jameswaugh7024 . Amazing how you can just casually dismiss something as sinister as Vote Leave's use of personal data to manipulate the electorate. And a little earlier you were telling me the meaning of democracy. You can program some of the people some of the time.
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  24.  @jameswaugh7024 . Why are you using the term "progressive" ? Sounds a bit American to me. And you can hardly compare true journalism to blatant propaganda. Have you read the Mail today? Littlejohn?
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  25.  @jameswaugh7024 . Ah man, you've really let the mask slip in your last two comments. "Progressive" "globohomo" LOL James. (is it really James?)
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  26.  @jameswaugh7024  . Leave narrowly won an ADISORY referendum. And one that was tainted by lies, cheating, and downright deviousness. So the government is under no lawful obligation to implement a damn thing.
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  27.  @jameswaugh7024 . Elaborate? On what? Words are tells James. And though my education is limited, common sense and insight have made up for any deficiency. And I know exactly what you are. Why do you guys (?) assume that everyone else is dumb?
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  28.  @jameswaugh7024 . I vote labour but no. Fascists are better at that kind of thing in general.
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  29.  @jameswaugh7024 . "globohomo" Speaks volumes. It reveals your political bias and gives an indication of age. It's not the kind of word that someone of my age would use. Neither would it be used in an overtly negative sense by someone of liberal views. So I can rule out old and liberal. The compass spins to the right. Hot or cold? Crikey James. I don't need Cambridge Analytica's psychometric program to suss you out.
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  30.  @jameswaugh7024  . Can you just give me an insight into something. Why are the far right so intent upon a no deal?
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  31.  @martinmanifold2241  The anti Rayner crew are taking this so well. LOL.
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  32. We either compromise or we screw our own economy and having a United Kingdom. That much is obvious.
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  33.  @spreadislam5057 . Ok. I'll try. Either we compromise or we screw our own economy and keeping the United Kingdom together. Is that clearer?
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  34.  @spreadislam5057 . Nah, I can do it properly. Take 3. We will have to compromise with the EU or risk breaking up the United Kingdom and devastating our own economy. Job done. Nightynight.
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  35. Leading detective on the investigation is a Tory. What more do you want.
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  36. How can we? Freedom of movement has gone.
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  37.  Albert Pike . Where to? What other country will just accept us without requirements? And who will pay for this? Just more impractical scheming Albert? "Don't tell him Pike!"
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  38. And they do it all to themselves. It's only Tuesday. They may get another scandal or resignation in by the end of the week.
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  39.  @PGHEngineer  Utterly wrong. George W Bush was pushing for regime change in Iraq more than a year before the UK got involved. And saying that Blair pushed America into the war is beyond ludicrous.
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  40.  @PGHEngineer  Still trying to argue that Blair somehow coerced America into a war? LOL. Seriously? The Iraq Liberation act shows that regime change in Iraq was a top priority for America.
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  41. For pointing out that this blatant smear campaign has failed?
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  42. Project fear.
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  43.  @wjumeau  The boats could have been stopped by having a working system to process asylum seekers. But the Tories preferred to use this situation as a political ladle to stir up the public.
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  44. The orange turd has been flushed. And good riddance.
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  45. Conned by outside forces means conned by outside forces.
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  46. He's gone to America. Sucking up to the orange crook is more important than the UK to him. But then it always was.
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  47. Church of the Alt-Reich. Bunch of fucking crazies on a mission to rewrite reality.
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  48.  @saxglend9439 . Seemingly absurd. But Trump and Boris are still snakes in disguise.
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  49.  @saxglend9439  Sounds Chinese. Float like a brick. Sting like a trifle. Sun Zoo possibly.
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  50. Because an investigation led by a Tory detective found no evidence that Rayner did anything wrong.
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