Comments by "Scott Wallace" (@therealzilch) on "Johnny Harris" channel.

  1. 100 years ago they were telling the truth about the basic shape of the Earth. 200 years ago too. In fact, at least some people (the Greeks and perhaps others) knew that the Earth is a globe 2500 years ago.
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  2.  @AbsurdityViewer  Yes, I agree that it's not possible to cleanly say what should be censored, or how. Shouting "fire!" in a crowded theater comes to mind. But in any case, there's no real debate about the shape of the Earth. It's been known to be a globe for more than two thousand years, and nothing has happened since then to change that knowledge. Asking questions about mainstream knowledge is healthy, but pretending that there is any merit to long since debunked ideas such as the flat Earth is misleading. cheers from foggy Vienna, Scott
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  3. It's not that simple. Which stars you can see depends on your location, the time of year, and the time of night. What really not right, if you believe the Earth is flat, it's that you can't, say, see Polaris from Australia ever. No flat Earther can explain this without invoking magic.
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  4. My condolences. But with help, many people can be brought back to reality.
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  5. The ancient Greeks figured out that the Earth is a globe more than two thousand years ago without going to space. You could too.
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  6.  @perspective75  I don't know of any good flat Earther arguments- could you give an example? There are a couple of illusions that are prima facie convincing, if one doesn't understand how they work- crepuscular rays and that we feel no motion- but no good arguments I'm aware of.
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  7.  @terryme3287  I respect you, but I can't respect your beliefs about how light works, because they are simply wrong. The Sun does not get dimmer and smaller as it "goes away", as it would if it were really nearby. Also, it would never appear to set if it were always above a flat Earth. And a nearby Sun would appear to move faster across the sky when overhead than when near the horizon, because of perspective. That it doesn't, you can easily demonstrate with a sundial you can build yourself. Many of my friends are Christians, and none of them has a problem with the Earth being a globe. The Bible is not exactly clear about the shape of the Earth. Does it have four corners, or is it a circle hanging on nothing? I somehow doubt that the authors were really concerned with such things. But again, believe what you want.
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  8.  @perspective75  Hey, no apologies needed. We're all here to learn. All the best to you from snowy Austria, Scott
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  9. No need to look it up. Just look up. One sunset shows that the Earth cannot be flat.
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  10.  @Fulllarrylarry  Yes, the Michelson-Morley experiment did cause quite a stir in the scientific community at the time, because many still believed in the existence of æther. No scientist back then believed the Earth was stationary. The rotation of the Earth had already long since been demonstrated, for instance by Foucault pendulums.
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  11. I don't know about you, but I trust rather in what the real world tells me.
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  12. The bird is bat
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  13. Because some of us watch sunsets and think.
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  14.  @REALStinkyCash  Because if the Earth were flat, then at sunset it would be night everywhere at once. But we know that doesn't happen. Therefore, the Earth cannot be flat.
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  15. ​ @madredelmarrockypoint463  The fact that celestial navigation works proves that the Earth is a globe.
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  16. How can you walk to the toilet in the front of a plane flying at 500mph, 497 mph faster than you can walk? Same answer.
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  17. ​ @Sizo.has.a.channel  One sunset shows that the Earth cannot be flat. No CIA, leaks, or files necessary.
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  18. Or if the Sun did set, it would be night everywhere at once.
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  19. Yep, a failed hypothesis.
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  20. 400 million years ago, the oceans were full of fish and plants and insects had already taken over much of the land. Nothing exploded.
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  21.  @connerlilley3057  Have you read the Antarctic Treaty? It's short, look it up. There's no ban on exploring any of it. That's a flat Earther lie.
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  22. Are you sure? I just chatted with a flat Earther ("Alpha Force") who claimed that all those who believe the Earth is a globe, including professed Christians, will go to Hell.
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  23.  @evyh7135  You can measure the curve with a theodolite, and measure the motion by weighing an object at two locations with different distances from the Equator.
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  24.  @randyschissler5791  Objects weigh about 0.3% less at the Equator than at the Poles. This, plus knowing the size of the globe, is a measure of its rotation.
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  25. That's certainly part of the problem. It's a mystery to me why most schools don't show kids how to build and use sundials. It's easy and pretty much a surefire protection against flat Earthism.
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  26. ​ @cardinalRG  Nice fisking.
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  27. NASA was founded in 1958. I was in third grade then. We were not taught that the Earth was flat. Nor were my parents, nor theirs. You are repeating lies.
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  28. Water looks flat because the Earth is big. That's all there is to "flat" water, which is never actually flat. Do you expect to see a curve of 0.014 degrees a mile?
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  29. One sunset shows that the Earth cannot be flat. Not too much logic necessary.
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  30. I've heard from a couple who don't believe in bacteria, nor in atoms either.
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  31. NASA didn't lie to me on my first day of school, because it didn't exist yet.
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  32. Are sunsets and clear thinking "force fed" to you?
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  33.  @8LOU_SKUNT  One sunset shows that the Earth cannot be flat. No government necessary.
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  34. Did you read the title of the video? It's not "How We Know The Earth Is A Globe", but rather "Why People Think The Earth Is Flat". This is more about psychology, not about the science of the globe. If you want the science, check out the videos of Wolfie 6020 or Dave McKeegan (to name just two).
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  35. One sunset shows that the Earth cannot be flat. No deep state, elites, or propaganda necessary.
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  36. I've been booted by Dubay and DITRH.
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  37. You are correct: we would say that gravity holds our atmosphere to the Earth, because it's the truth. Oxygen and all the other gases in the air are matter, matter has mass, mass is attracted to other mass by gravity. It all works out. Railroad tracks do curve, but not very much. The amount of bulge in the center of a standard US rail, 39 feet long, is about 0.0004 inches. The amount of bend over a mile of track is about 0.014 degrees. Do you expect to see that?
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  38. You sound like you know what flat Earthers believe, so could I ask you some questions? How far away are the Sun and Moon? How are they held up in the sky? What map do you use? Thanks.
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  39.  @sparkles78  I can peel my own, thanks. I just want a simple explanation of how the Sun could set on a flat Earth, without night falling everywhere at once, and without invoking magic. I haven't heard one so far, though I've chatted with hundreds of flat Earthers and watched many of their videos. Maybe you could be the first.
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  40. One sunset shows that the Earth cannot be flat. No papers, formulas, or experts necessary.
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  41.  @christophermaloz-ux6cw  Thanks for what seems to be your honest opinion. Here's mine about some of what you said. You say we can see too far. That's often true, if we only go by geometry. But a fair amount of atmospheric refraction will bend the light closer to the curve and allow us to see much further. That's how we get, for instance, photos of the Chicago skyline from the other side of Lake Michigan. But most of the time, you can only see blue skies. Flat Earthers have no explanation for this. We know the globe is not stationary because of Foucault pendulums, the Coriolis effect, and the Eötvös effect. What my senses and my "common sense" tell me is often superceded by real-world evidence to the contrary. Who would have thought that I, as a twelve-year-old watching my electrician father repair an old radio hot, would get a shock from touching his arm? Dave Weiss deleted my comment and banned me when I pointed out, politely, that the "Flat Earth Clock" app he was selling did not show the correct positions of the Sun and the Moon. I've looked into the flat Earth too extensively. And it's still debunked by observations people made more than two thousand years ago. No lie. cheers from rainy Austria. Scott
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  42. One sunset shows that the Earth cannot be flat. No inflation, powers, or flying necessary.
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  43. But flat Earthers don't believe in what they see, unless it's on a youtube video.
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  44. Ha ha. I've chatted with many hundreds of flat Earthers, and of those who expressed political opinions, the vast majority are conservatives: Trumpians or further right.
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  45.  @ROBERTPUNU  No, it's the other way around. The Earth has been known to be a globe for more than two thousand years. One sunset shows this. The definition of "sea level" follows from this knowledge. Where's your evidence that the Suez Canal is flat? If it were flat; it should be possible to see a bright light at one end from the opposite end. But no one has ever done so. Or do you have evidence for such a test, or any other observation that shows it to be flat? Saying that the bulge of water in the middle would flatten out is assuming that the Earth is flat. Show me the measurements.
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  46. Does believing in God make people behave better? Doesn't look like it to me.
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  47. Because it would be a waste of precious resources that could be used for science. And it probably wouldn't convince them anyway- they'd just say that the windows were CGI displays, or that they were drugged.
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  48.  @billiehicks1864  I've been following the scene for many years now, and I'm well acquainted with Eric Dubay. He was the first flat Earther to delete my polite questions, even before he got temporarily banned from YouTube for his Nazi propaganda. Nothing about the flat Earth fits the evidence. It can't explain sunsets, comets, meteorites, the retrograde motion of Mars... it goes on and on. Why do you think the Earth is flat?
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  49. All my grandparents went to school more than a hundred years ago. Not one was taught that the Earth is flat. You are repeating lies.
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  50.  @Ben-ut1xb  Yep. Apparently, Columbus thought the globe was smaller than it actually is for some reason, even though its size had been fairly accurately measured by Eratosthenes and Al-Biruni long before.
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