Comments by "May L" (@MeiinUK) on "South China Morning Post" channel.

  1. He is supposed to be the elders that others look up to. Instead.. he is saying and blaming the children as well.. and he is claiming that there is a lack of benefits.. despite his company being in power for more than 10 years.. and ended up with bad results.. and now he can go to the papers and shout out about that etc. Oh well... !!!
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  2. I think some people do not understand the long history... of "Middle Kingdom".... I am not justifying these acts. I did read articles 20 years ago when I was in my 20s, about these comfort women. I had always thought that they were chinese. But in reality, they were Koreans. That is going as far back as just under 200 years... and the complication of issue is that Korea, Japan, Taiwan, and HK, were all once upon a time.. part of the Three Kingdom, that split. To think, under Qing Dynasty, the population was only around 300 million people. So this war, has caused a lot of issues... which should never have happened.
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  3.  @hannesRSA  : I had to do that when I was a child. I used to get nightmares actually when I first came to the UK. My sister used to sleep walk. I used to "think in dual languages" until it was many years later.. that my anxiety subsided.. and my mind settled... etc etc... If those children are aware.. their parents, ought to discipline them or something. Same in the UK now. I often.. encourages.. kids... and their parents often do an extremely over anxiousness. Especially if the child does not want to learn.. cos frankly, they pick up on what you say about them. They too have pride as well. So.... There are so many places that parents could take their child, but they don't... libraries... local chiense cafes or near their own actual council blocks... Extend your arm and others would do the same too ?
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  4.  @valrrrshu  : Their descendents should live there... and this is what most people will do any way. Even if you move, or if you move abroad, most people still buy old houses. Same thing. What is the difference here, for someone to make some ideas, or to find some kind of business model and to regenerate this area ?? Many areas in the UK are similar. They are regenerated... Same thing. If people can refurbish, and regenerate. Why can't others in HK ?? Find out the options.
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  5.  @晓婷-g5l  : Because it is haunted, only their descendents would dispel such bad karmas.... I think the other day, there was indeed an actual gentleman who talked about this.... Maybe he knows their descendents...
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  6.  @tan9928 : Technically speaking, there should not be the concept of "mandarin" at all... No such a thing, and it was only the overseas' dispora in the likes of Singapore or in Malaysia, that took upon themselves, against the so called 1.4 billion people fight. And then, they tried to get the UN on their side as well... instead of focusing on what is inside the mainland China... No such thing as "mandarin" since the speech that people speaks in Singapore or in Malaysia, or their mother tongue, from the region that they were from. i.e. Fuijian or from Canton... Some spoke Teo Chow....
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  7. Haven't seen this kind of whiteness for a long time in the UK.... Everything pure white. Cute.
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  8.  @MMCat7732  : Whereas other countries, try to keep their boundaries in terms of finances.. as well as political borders and respect each others' boundaries.. and laws surrounding those areas as well... What and how do you see the respect from SE Asia ? Cos I don't see it right this moment... Why is HK being pushed to this kind of situation ? Why put "UN laws" into "local politics" ? And why are "Local SAR government" trying to fudge the "international finances" into the fold ? And also.. I have seen,.. on Linkedin as well.... A MBA holder... trying to "force American laws, and corporate laws, into British corporate law boundaries and borders".... EXACTLY how does THAT work out ? It does NOT. It is not legal.. and nor compliant. At all ?... When the shares of those markets drops.. and fall apart.... cos people and individual still forges ahead.. You know what will happen.
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  9. HK is like the UK.. is it "too inclusive"... to the point that it's been taken for a ride, and robbed. Basically. lol...
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  10. The West is also at fault too, cos it is with their support, which made these people become super spoilt.... and then they took a wrong turn, and kept making policies which were selfish to themselves and benefitted them etc... And then also let the rural people outgrew population... From a one child policy, to this mega... extra 400 million apparently, unregistered, and undocumented children. So the country is not a 1.4 billion... it is actually around 1.7 billion people... 400 million without official birth certificates... Why do you think that CCP do not want to abandon ship ??? ....
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  11. You are wrong here. In HK now, there are strict preservation laws coming through to preserve the local languages. Weitou. Hakka etc. tanka etc.
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  12.  @JohnR.T.B.  : Bingo... IF those parents are mixed race. That is if they mixed and intermarried, then their child seems to learn anything. And by right actually... some of the laws, that is if you accept chinese laws before even these kind of various "grab a law" and the current "grab a politics" kicks in.... This is why today, HK is lawless. Despite the so called continuous media portrayal and those citizens in describing that it has a legal framework to them. Cos frankly, they don't have it ? And people are not correcting this because of what.... their assumption that this is too far gone down the lines ??? And they refuse to prosecute the individuals.... And it goes on and on and on. Two wrongs do not make a right. But at the same time, you cannot keep going downhill.... and keep doing the wrong thing !!!!
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  13. HK communists used to assassinate foreign British people. Did you know that ? Even these horror stories are now shown and written all over the social media. People aren't even hiding those cases any more. Now they step forward to tell the truths. Weird how online life seems so farfetched from real life in HK. Malls everywhere and yet Facebook is supposedly banned from china? Really ?
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  14. Why make one ? People in HK live in it.
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  15. No... why should kids in Canton.. not speak Cantonese ? It is like saying... If HK had a King... and then you are forcing the King to kowtow towards the OTHER Kings in the mainland. Are you NOT making a mockery of THEM ? What ARE you doing then ? So when the King's civil servant tiers.. that went to the USA... (All the KMTs' army leads and heads...) If THEY are not being looked after now... Then... In some of the local chinese newspapers.. and hearsays... a lot of people are saying that, HK has sided too much with the West... and at the same time now.. The game has been flipped upsidedown. PRC should NOT have joined the WTO to begin with. THEY should NOT have exponentially deviated from their various regional locations. They went wild and riot..... By the West stopping the culling of people.. and the invasion of the different regions.. it created a big mess... from a 600 million (still under some form of loose Imperial structures)... to a non-Imperial structures... and a 1.2 billion explosion. Rapes. Taken women, from one King's mistresses groups to another's. Diluting powers. Wealth. Etc. Diluting histories. Fighting your own families. The list goes on and on and on....
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  16. "Mandarin" was made up in the current modern generation. It was a regional dialect.. and because of the formation of the UN. People... collectively.. and stupidly.. are making it into a "this MUST be the imperial language"... and whatever whatever lies they want to follow through etc. And as usual.. more people believing in something, then the truer it must be. Whereas if you see other civilisation. Islamic. Or European. They teach their next generation. The exact same thing. THE exact lineage.. and the SAME thing. SOME people say that.... HK's people are mostly mixed race now with many Europeans... but I don't think that is so. Not really. Cos HK has historical artefacts that dates back to the Song dynasties... and it is the locals that also refuses to accept a model with an Imperial King.. but it does not by any means of the word, ought to have a complete flat structures. Which it current DOES have ! It keeps saying that it has SOME loose model...if you follow the likes of Eric Li on Ted talk. But it absolutely does NOT have at all !!!
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  17.  @mizulightblue  : I have never heard of HK having a blackout, since the power stations are so close by... So what is the meaning of this? One ban for the country, the entire region and everywhere gets the same treatment? When the PRC country was "still rising" from GDP figures... did people suffered like this ... like they did before ???.... Why is it so scary to live inside China ??? And I thought that live in Europe is bad enough... i.e. To pay heavy taxes.. and to have to continue to work to pay off debts etc....
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  18. Yes. There are 10,000 dinners, and there are 5000 pound dinners. Yes. It exists !.... Mostly charity options, and then it goes into foundations and charities etc. So... yes.. it does happen. Or sponsorships. Mostly tax exemption. Reduces inequalities.
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  19. A lot of domestic workers play havoc on their employers' psyches as well... often they do indeed steal... and then lie as well.. as to cheat you on something. This kind of emotional drama... I have seen a lot ? I am living abroad.. and even our earnings are not enough to cover people like that as well... As much as the HK SAR government keeps on supporting this kind of thing ? Some people were basically seducing some of the guys as well. So then they ended up half half like.... And this ruins the actual heritage and inheritances and things like that in HK. So this is why HK is no longer a city that is cantonese any more either. Cos a lot of people were basically ruined.... And many of these people do not ever start their own lives back in their own home countries either. And they do not even put forward things like abortions, despite knowing that there is not enough food. Or whatever.... And these are not muslim people. Even though Indonesia is supposedly following Islam. They DON'T follow Islam... at all !!! And in Indonesia.... polygamy is actually legal as well... and this is many generation of bad governance.... led up to their population exploding... and they still don't care? HK is actually a very very poor country in comparison.... And many people won't leave !
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  20.  @GeorgeMartinus  : Well... other people does it. Why ? Cos they desire it to be. And there is nothing to lose. At all. So... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwU0TC3Lbyg Many areas were abandoned by the war, and left. These are gentries and lands of those lords... or dynasties.. Rebuilding countries, cities... and heritages, is not a bad thing, is it ? At all. Cos can you keep knocking down things, and rebuilding, all of the time ? Always ?.... This Chateau.. is not using old materials, but new materials and new items of this last 10-20 years.. but so that it "looks" the same for the future. In the same location. With the histories intact. So...
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  21.  @CX6998  : Why is it surprising to you ? It has always been like that ever since the 1980s and the 1990s... and people.. most of them are from Canton.. some were from Fuijian... they have always wanted to fight it out.. and be number one etc... So... And then, there are those so called "SE Asian oligarch's" money too... Lippo... And that Malaysian guy as well... I think it is VERY crowded...
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  22. So he is an actual "Cantonese-Nepalese" then... so what is the problem ? In the UK... if you live in England, you speak English. If you live in Wales.. and they recently changed it to Welsh... or Gaelic in Scotland... This is normal too. I can also speak "German, Spanish, Italian, English, Cantonese, ".... I have a degree. And also a Masters as well. SO.... why should they not have the same opportunities ? Why should this NOT be something that these people are doing ? Oh, I forgot... also French as well. I was and had to speak a European language for the better integration. So I have GCSE German. And then did sciences at A level stage. Is this why... HK now lacks those medics.. and those individuals... who NEEDS these people, but now... they are fighting the same salaries and the SAME rice bowl... as well... USING Taxpayors' money.. to bring THEM up.. even more ?! There are elderlies... who couldn't even get an actual HOUSE... cos THESE families take it up as well. Watch this TVB local channel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqry36bRrbQ <----- These elderlies... served the community, til they cannot... and even listening to these statistics now... These kids, are using FAR too much resources... Than the local kids, and the local adults. And they DO NOT EVEN... live in that same city either ! They are migrants, that is immigrants... to the city. Whoever actually did their wrong doings to that city itself.. has done injustice to the city overall. Wanting to make money... but discriminates against the actual LOCAL citizens !!!! I don't see THAT also in the UK either ! A lot of children once created a system.. then help themselves. Lots of people are independent, and is able to speak, write as well. So why aren't these people ??? .... And those so called NGO individuals.. often... are just transient people as well. Do a job and then leave. Do a job and then leave. Creating a really bad chaos ? This is similar too for the UK... The local people, ought to be English or Irish or Scotish. Their population is now down to a mere 60%... and the rest of the society are from ex commonwealth ethinc minorities. What is HK doing ? It is supposed to be around 8 million people.. but I certainly don't think so. I bet that it is around 4 million Cantonese, and the rest are now foreign migrants... and non-Chinese ethnic individuals. THAT is what is going on !!!
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  23.  @baruchlev2658  : Actually, that is not true about the USA... Cos the USA, is a relatively "new country"... by comparison to Europe. Europe is an old civilisation.... Whereas USA are mostly, what is classed as a "new world"... and is made up of many migrants.. including those from Europe... AND China too.... Let's be honest about that. And once upon a time... some chinese people also went as far as to Mexico as well. RTHK has documented this quite well in recent years. So... (and they were part of the global trades then.. when the UN was barely just created.. after the world wars)..... China is actually playing catch up. (And they are also doing that thing, which many didn't want to see, which is to integrate their genuine tribal people, into modern day Hans' societies... even India.... which is not "india" by modern day term... It is because of the globalisation, that they are indirectly forced to act as a "singular country". In fact, India.. has a lot of tribal people. Yep. The kind that EATS HUMANS.. and has never seen people of other colours. And India does everything to protect them from being seen, or captured.) I don't think that you actually understand how big the world is.... and not everything should be noted, from the internet... or just social media... California.. was also once upon a time, a part of Mexico. And around that time... actually, a lot of chinese were living there too. So yeh..... the world is far more complex than your assumption. (And no... USA is not just full of "white" people... far from it....although the current media, kept saying things like, "black people were slaves"... er... Only a few, but then the rest were actually... black owners, with white slaves. Because they were indirectly freed by policies. And then... the laws were not all explicitly defined in all states, so there were indeed a lot of hardships on white people too. Til they librated all races. It's too complex to sum up in a single sentence. )
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  24. There are so many second hand things in HK as well. How hard is it to get your child a cassette tape.. or even a radio.. or even a TV ? So that they can watch and learn ? And write what they think they are hearing ? "Jooo-saan" = Morning. How hard is that ? These parents do not correct the basics and do not follow basic politeness. That is why. Why don't they follow the basics every day and memorise that instead ? I always had to learn to say "please" and "thank yous" as a child. Otherwise my mother would scold me. So how come these migrants do not do that to their own children ? Shouldn't this be enforced at all ? When children act like adults... and then try to do adult things as well... Why should HK's budgets and things like that be spent on these continuous stupidities ? Why ? Why you complain about this.. the rest of the city has moved on already... and you would never be able to catch up. So then what.. you're going to stay at the bottom of the pile ? Instead of also following and trying your best to move together ??
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  25. But this is the technology reaching 10:27 your audiences. Although gangnam was catchy, gimmicky and funny.. on a day to day basis, I wouldn't necessarily listens to that. You want a set of playable music on a day to day basis. Cos some dance songs are just that.... And in a way, since Japan and Korea pop is now popular.. if anybody wants to make music, now is the time, when the market is ripe. So... There aren't "international" or not international any more... Cos every single, could potentially break through the 100k.. which many never used to do. It could break millions now... So....
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  26. There's a strong South American style Spanish songs coupled with Cantonese music. That's a very strong like. I like European EDMs... And done classic pops. I don't think I've ever heard of Canton disco...
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  27.  @LoC28C  : The property developers exists is because communism was happening inside the mainland... and that is why so many individuals ran towards HK and grabbed those land. Canton had actual banks, and it had an actual political centre too. Cos of criminals.. running away from their own enemies...(which , even today, they are called "entrepreneurs"....).... So that is why HK became what it is today. But at the same time now.. those "who made it rich".. is now suffering too... quite badly. Some were prosecutd, cos they are accused of fizzling state money.. or the mainland had an actual "take down the landlords and the wealthy" law... Which is now.. being implemented inside HK now.... which is super scary. This is why in some cities, you could see literally... a child's piece of sweet or food, could be taken away from them by an adult.
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  28. @@xarifa777 : You guys cannot speak any of those fluently ? Sorry, but you don't ? And can't ? And doesn't even know the laws and the languages as well? And this is why the argument rises... cos you "explain" and yet you don't even understand what you just agreed to contractually.. and everything else... ??? There is no honor in your word. At all. And because you just did that, you are scapegoating.. fighting... attack... and the rest...
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  29.  @thinkingaloud5379  : Yes, but UK also brexited as well. So under EU... maybe EU laws, but now on our own terms, UK needs to stand up to its OWN obligations as well, as part of NATO. It is not doing it just for ourselves, but also with the various memberships which the UK is a part of. Funny how people do not think that UK would do that either..... FYI. China is ALSO a part of the UN Security Councils too... So why does it not self discipline ???
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  30. Before in the past... like the 1970s and the 1980s... HK already had this "return to the manfacturer, and we will give you money for this"... like those glass bottles. Remember? Now that, they have these cartons... Same thing need to happen. But looking at this plant... This is a mere actual... basic manual plant. Surely.. with the composition of those cartons from several different materials combined. HK needs to really build a more sophisticated analyser already that detects the composition to be able to break it down properly and resell those individual components? SURELY..... the ENTIRE.... PRC has the precious metals for electronics... SURELY... it could create an actual plant of this calibre ?! Why should everything ALWAYS go to Singapore !!!! Chi sin !!!! There is more way to skin a single cat !!! Maybe he doesn't want to do that, cos it will be then controlled by the state's... that is why. But of course, you can definitely privately actually patent this as well.
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  31.  @senyu1540  : So why don't you ask other people for resources, or book stores, and read those cantonese books? There are now karaokes as well... as well as Cantonese podcasts. What the heck do you think people are doing every day in HK ? Most kids would do singalong with their friends. And families would do karaokes.. at home... to perfect their own pronunciations !! It is like.. how much anger, and displacements, and moodiness... COULD you exert onto random individuals any way ? Do you think that those other parents... are and have actual time.. to actually look after their own child, on a full time basis ? Many individuals.. especially those white collar people, are doing hard work now, holding down the GDP and holding down the fort.... Accusation isn't going to gain you any more help. In actual reality.
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  32.  @Gossuarit  : Do you know why they are not enjoying this at all ? That is HK hires many non-Cantonese speakers... that speaks Cantonese, as a second foreign language. Cos if you see even in this video.. and I have seen some ethnic minorities teaching Cantonese as well.. which is to support the diversity element. Their standard... is "tick the boxes only".. These children couldn't "jump" between the two languages and subjects. At all. They needed a strong bilingual individual to teach them. In the past... ethnic minorities actually go to the same classes together... in normal schools. It is not the fault of those citizens.... it was the fault of the actual ethnic minority group.. that asked for the funding, instead of joining normal classes. And then you end up with very frustrated kids. And then they turned to crime as well... cos they don't have the emotional bond at all ? So....
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  33. They can change the interior to match those of the current highest level in the world. Google easy hotel. It's great. Google Tokyo capsule rooms. They are all a lot more comfortable anyway. So.... If people wanted to, they could. I feel like there are some kind of stuck ill feelings.... People are hurt. Either way.
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  34. South Korea does it cos they know that it supports their own economy. But what does china wants ?
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  35. That was a bad use of English actually.... it sounded so sarcastic... Which is very different to normal social speech. It wasn't customer services speech level... That was weird.
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  36.  @senyu1540  : We understand... but you also have to understand this as well... if HK need to say that they are "bankrupt"... then what and how are you going to react ? When I was young, I read an article about Japan.. about how it took them like 2-3 generation to pay off a mortgage. Now... Remind me... Why do you assume that HK has money ? It has money, but it does not have debts ?..... It has banking.. but it doesn't hold the gold... Did you know that ? HK is not Singapore... and all those money left a LONG time ago ! Why? Cos those in the know, would have taken it away already ! They know it ! It's in a documentary ! HERE !!!! If the Brits left to go to London.. with their money and investments after 1997.. what do you think is left ??? Even the USA wants Beijing. Britain wanted Shanghai ! Not HK..... HK crashed many times before... and it went bankrupt basically. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2pD_y61jx4&list=PLK7qCnafFFJb4XxCU_5gP5uuRbp2u_gQa&index=39&t=177s China, should not have as many children.. but because of people like yourselves as well... indirectly demanding those factory workers to work for you all... which makes the situation even worst as well.. Everybody loses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp0IRAW8xL4&list=PLK7qCnafFFJb4XxCU_5gP5uuRbp2u_gQa&index=11&t=369s India, is now going to be the next big thing.. This is why even the UK's Prime Minister is now an Indian heritage guy. It won't be a chinese guy. At all.
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  37. Actually, Cantonese both the people... (from that region, like myself.. and all the way from my grandfather's days)... plus.... the language... have ended up.. as bastardised... and even taken out of contexts too. I actually get harassed in HK.. do you know ? Why? Cos of some policies from before. So when I see an actual policy NOW.... stating that these migrants are put FIRST.... despite I .. people like myself is becoming extinct.. is beyond a joke? Now I get the feeling of the British as well... Cos they also did predict that this would happen too. And yet, so many Brits.. also do not leave HK. Why ? They don't leave it... and refuses to do anything about it.
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  38.  @WalkOverHotCoal  : BASICALLY.... people like YOU run HK... and not people like ME to run HK !!!! IF this was a city of my ancestors from around 3-4 to even BEFORE the cultural revolution.. Don't you think that I have MORE of an idea.. about myself.. and about this city ?? I think or I like to think that I DO !!!..... So how come.. YOU are in power over a city.. and not ME who should and ought to be living there now... Doing the administrations ?!.... All gone weird hasn't it !!!!..... In Europe... ALL the "indigenous".. whose homeland it is.. DOES get to be in position of powers. Either they control the businesses.. or the political tiers.. or the militaries.. So I don't get why HK doesn't have that at all !!!! ....
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  39.  @WalkOverHotCoal  : 香港人治香港. 不是外人治香港 !!!
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  40.  @longlihong856  : 香港漢人統治香港 ！ 中國大陸人現在站在美國一邊 ！ 甚至高於英國 ！ 即使它是英國的殖民地 ！ 說英式英語而不是美式英語 !!! 香港不 是美國的殖民地 ！ 很多大陸人咬外面不咬裡面 ！
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  41.  @longlihong856  : A lot of individuals are not "Hans Chinese" in HK at all. Or did you not realise this? And the "minorities" of people are actually the local ex-Imperial Cantonese... and not the existing group of "Hong Kongers", that are of different races. i.e. From Laos.. Indians.. Indonesians.. etc etc etc. Or Europeans Eurasians etc etc etc. This is why HK is now left behind, cos the Chinese moves into the Greater Bay areas instead... and the left over individuals reside in HK. Assuming that they rule all. FYI. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j04K83O1yg&t=81s
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  42. ​ @Pr0d3gi : How do you write the Chinese character ?...
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  43. Can only exists cos HK is technically a mountain. Can't do that anywhere else. Not really. Unless you think about how to fix the actual... marshlands... So...
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  44.  @spidermann1256  : This is the thing... in China, everything is "bureacratic"... as in, people, the wealthier that people are, and that they get... the more.. competition and more competitive they feel... So therefore.. they don't know how to treat each other nicely.. or how to actually get something done. Cos everybody just is unsure of... how to avoid mistakes... so... there are the personal experiences as well too. So...
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  45.  @ggrey3155  : That is because they are not Hans. This is why they would not wear Hanfu. Whereas in Japan, and in South Korea... They took their entire kingdom and moved and stayed with the time, and not fight anyone else, but protect their own people. THIS is the difference.... All other countries are exactly the same ? European countries are the same too... And this is why sometimes you still find the traditional written work, recirculate once a while... or old traditional cakes or recipes, repeat itself once a while as well... during Christmas, during celebration. Do you see this in China ?!?! ..... People in Japan respect the Shogun.. and they respect their old Lords... and warriors who fought for the country.... I do not respect the ones who... destroyed the country, or destroyed Canton, or HK....
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  46.  @obsidianstatue  : The word "Fake" is used, when that something is not true. Hanfu would not be fake, if the person wearing it, IS from the Hans dynasty and race, and has never inter-married... or whatever. When the family-tree is broken... It then becomes fake. Fake by lineage, and fake by heritage. But the thing is.. in China, they refuse to define the definition of the "nationality".... instead of "race".. They call those who inter-married as "tribes"... or a "clan".... Do you see this continuous Manchu naming convention ? There is nothing very Hans and Chinese about this at all....
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  47.  @obsidianstatue  : If you trace all the migrants into Japan... I think you will find that, they do not take in many immigrants... In order to preserve their race, and their heritage, and their family tree as well.... But this never happened for so called "China", even though so many people want this to be so.
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  48.  @obsidianstatue  : There is the Manchuria, and then there are the Mongolians. They definitely are not the same as Hans.
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  49.  @obsidianstatue  : As you say, those who are alive today, must belong to someone or some family tree. So those who are of the "56 tribes" must belong to some old tribal army, or units... from some nomadic families.... So how is this actually a "tribe " ? So you are basically saying, the state, supports these 56 old nomadic army units... just because they were part of the old kingdom... even though their rulers have fallen ??? So, in effect, those who now sits in central Beijing, are actually helping their great great great grand cousin, once or twice removed... using whose money ?? Does the money not belong to the people ?!!?!?!? Why do these tribes get subsidies ?!!?!?! Why are foreign companies, make money in China, and only the government take a big percentage of this.... so who do they help ?? And why are CCP members, how do they earn ? Why do they have lots of money ? What is their salaries ? Why do they earn as such ?? You tell me. In all other countries, all politicians... they pay to even enter the race to be nominated to be a governor. How and why does CCP members get the money ??? I repeat, in other countries, the citizen, PAY to become a politician... and let the people choose them first... Only in China, do CCP get a lot of state benefits... and money !!!
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  50.  @obsidianstatue  : Lol. I was born in the UK. How can my English be poor ? Sorry to see that you do not like what I write.... So be it. The truth hurts sometimes. Facts are facts. But if mis-translation happened, then yes, there is room for mistake and misunderstanding, but facts remain as facts. It cannot be changed, or destroy, cos it is a piece of history.
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