Comments by "神州 Shenzhou" (@Shenzhou.) on "Wendover Productions"
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+Ryan Lajara Why is USA automatically assumed to be the lesser evil? China has been peaceful for 30 years since our last major war in 1979. But the USA is been involved in wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc, even in 21st century. China wants to make Asia strong, by building infrastructure in Pakistan (CPEC), Kazarhstan, other -stan countries, Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, as well as African countries, like Nigeria, Angola, Ethiopia, etc. But USA wants to provoke a war with North Korea by sending aircraft carrier strike groups and warships across Pacific Ocean, while still bombing Middle East Countries.
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+Jeff Li You are not in China anymore, so what gives you the right to say "Tibet, Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia are not parts of China"? You no longer from China, and don't know true history of China, so what gives you the right decide what belongs to China and what doesn't? Who do you think you are here?
According to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qing_dynasty
-The Manchus identified their state as "China" (中國, Zhōngguó; "Middle Kingdom"), and the emperors equated the lands of the Qing state (including present-day Northeast China, Xinjiang, Mongolia, Tibet and other areas) as "China", defining China as a multi-ethnic state, and rejecting the idea that "China" only meant Han areas. The Qing emperors proclaimed that both Han and non-Han peoples were part of "China".
-They used both "China" and "Qing" to refer to their state in official documents, international treaties and foreign affairs and both "Qing" and "China" terms were used interchangeably.
So why you define China as "Han Chinese only" when China has over 50 ethnic groups? What do you really know about being Chinese, as to define whole China as Han Chinese only? 我已经给你面子了，你还不认错？证据明明在你面前，你还装眼瞎不看，那我还能做什么？
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+nguyen khanh China's artificial islands aren't "built from scratch". The construction activities on China’s islands and reefs are conducted on "natural features" over which China has sovereignty and which form part of the Nansha Islands. China is not "creating any new artificial islands" from the seabed.
scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/1986732/debunking-10-myths-about-china-and-south-china-sea
Whether China or Vietnam does it more, both countries are doing it, so how does this excuse Vietnam's actions from China's here?
You are just making up excuses for Phan Van Dong's letter to justify Vietnam breaking its word. During Qing dynasty, France recognized China's sovereignty over the Paracel and Spratly archipelagos, in exchange for Chinese recognition of Vietnam as a French territory. Then in 1933, France seized the Paracels and Spratlys, announced their annexation, formally included them in French Indochina (Vietnam). Then during WW2 it was captured by Japanese, and after Japanese surrender, USA helped China reclaim Spraty and Paracel Islands.
Vietnam only "inherited" those islands because of what France did in 1933, so how is that justification of Vietnamese ownership of Paracel and Spratly? If Phan Van Dong had formally objected to Chinese ownership of Spratly and Paracel, then why didn't he clarify his stance first?
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+한국어로변역하는인간 Actually, South Korea got rid of nuclear weapons because of pressure from USA. According to globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/rok/index.html
"S. Korea began nuclear weapons program in 1970, in response to Nixon Doctrine's emphasis on self-defense for Asian allies. Following the withdrawal of 26,000 American troops, the S. Korean government decided to pursue nuclear weapons. By 1975 the US had pressured France into not delivering a reprocessing facility, effectiely ending attempts to develop nuclear weapons. Under pressure from the United States, Korea ratified the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) on 23 April 1975."
So which country here is being puppet state of another power like USA? China does not "control" N. Korea at all, and like I said, China maintains zero military bases in North Korea, whereas S. Korea is host to many US troops garrisoned there. As for N. Korean missile technology they make use of Russian missile technology, not China's.
According en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hwasong-14#Engine The North Korean Hwasong-14 missile's engine is based on the Soviet RD-250 (R-36 (missile)) family of engines according to British sources and they were probably acquired though illicit channels operating in Russia and/or Ukraine. In August 2017 the State Space Agency of Ukraine claimed that the rocket engine used during 28 July 2017 North Korea's missile test was RD-250 made at a Ukrainian factory. According to South Korean intelligence, North Korea received 20 to 40 RD-251 engines from Russia in 2016.
So why blame China when the missile engines are believed to come from Ukraine and/or Russia?
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L C He may be doing that, but he is also targeting other high ranking corrupt communist party officials in the process. Who on this earth is altruistic enough to tackle corruption without some form of benefit to themselves? The fact that he is willing to take on the enormous task of purging corruption is already incredible feat in itself, especially one of world's largest political parties.
The government has labor laws to protect our workers. Under chapter 4 Working Hours, Rests, and Leaves Article 36 The State shall practise a working hour system wherein labourers shall work for no more than 8 hours a day and no more than 44 hours a week on the average.
Labour Law of the People's Republic of China
china.org.cn/living_in_china/abc/2009-07/15/content_18140508.htm
But of course, China is so populous that it is not possible to catch every employer who choose to work their people like slaves. Furthermore, China's labor force is so huge, that if you are unwilling to do the work, someone else will gladly take up your position, for lower pay and longer hours too. Such is the level of competition in Chinese workforce society today.
Chinese workers may work in unforgiving conditions, but at least they were getting paid. What do you know about serfdom in Tibet? During Dalai Lama rule, Tibet was brutal theocracy, with 95% slaves and 5% slave owner, which are the Tibetan monks. Peasants worked the poor mountainous soil to grow food to feed the 5% but there was barely sufficient food and famine and starvation were commonplace. Torture, mutilation and skinning were common punishments and there is even Tibetan human drum (Skull Damaru) made from two skulls and with human skin. A drumstick is fashioned out of human legbone, usually a young serf girl.
Tibet was part of China since 800 years ago when Mongolians conquered it and made it part of Yuan Dynasty China. Even Marco Polo acknowledged it in his book "Travels of Marco Polo" in which he wrote: "Tibet is a big land where people have their own language and idolatry. But all of their affairs are placed under the management of the Yuan Emperor,"
Marco Polo, first Westerner to say that Tibet is part of China
ecns.cn/2017/06-22/262446.shtml
Also from the source: In 1904, a British army journalist, Edmund Candler, gave the true nature of Tibetan society -- like the serfs during the middle ages of Europe and descibed Tibet as having "witnessed more murders and instigations to crime than the most blood-stained castle in medieval Europe." He said the monks are the overlords, the peasantry their serfs
So I don't understand how you arrive at the conclusion that for the past 1000 years, Tibet was much more peaceful than China. Even Westerns have described the serfdom faced by Tibetans as quoted from the above source. You feel sorry for our education and in the same way Chinese people feel sorry for your education.
You have the ability to choose your leaders, but Americans choose someone like Trump to leader the country, when he has zero political experience? And you are British, so your people choose to leave the European Union, based on a rather informal referendum? Every governing system have its own flaws, but if China's government can lead China to become world's 2nd largest economy, then I don't see why our system is inferior to Western democracy.
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+L C You mean you visit Tibet and China for short duration and suddenly, you know everything about "serfdom" in Tibet? There are various sources detailing serfdom in Tibet, including Western sources, and all of them agreed that some form of serfdom exists in Tibet. You Westerns still tend stubbornly cling on romanticized notions of Tibet as Paradise on Earth due to growing up under propaganda.
You said: "One of the characteristics of slavery is being captive which did not happen in Tibet" and I think you must have confused "slavery" with "prisoners". Tibetan serfs were still being forced to work the fields to grow food to support Tibetan population, and being surrounded by mountains, there was literally nowhere else to escape. Who else is going to feed Tibetans themselves? The monks? Even in 2001, the Dalai Lama said: "Tibet, materially, is very, very backward. Spiritually it is quite rich. But spirituality can't fill our stomachs." People send their sons to the monastery, because they want better life for their children, instead of a harsh life out in the fields.
Some Tibetans were nomadic, because the poor mountain soil meant rearing livestock like yaks were more feasible than growing crops. But they are still serfs having to rear animals to feed the population. Drepung monastery, on the outskirts of Lhasa, was one of the world's largest landowners with 185 manors, 25,000 serfs, 300 pastures, and 16,000 herdsmen. High-ranking lamas and secular landowners imposed crippling taxes, forced boys into monastic slavery and pilfered most of the country's wealth – torturing disobedient serfs by gouging out their eyes or severing their hamstrings.
Source: theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/feb/10/tibet-china-feudalism
How am I very wrong about Damaru? In ancient time, it was made from human crania or entirely out of human skulls, but today it usually made from wood or animal leather at both ends, according to following source. So its only recent times that it was made from other materials besides human skulls. In the past, Tibetans have "strong beliefs" so you think Tibetans would prefer to use Damaru made of normal materials instead of human skulls?
Tibet Damaru
exploretibet.com/blog/tibet-damaru/
Skinning of slaves applied to people of all ages, including women, children and toddlers. Also, since when does the sky burial ritual consists of skinning the cadaver at all? According to Wikipedia, there is no mention of skinning the cadaver before commencing the sky burial, so why are you claiming that its part of the ceremony for feeding the body to birds of prey? Tibetans believed in returning the entire body to the earth, including the skin, so what nonsense are you cooking up to explain Tibetan skinning?
Wikipedia Sky Burial
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_burial
Yuan Dynasty is a Chinese dynasty ruled by Mongolian leaders. It was Kublai Khan that choose to abandon his own culture and embrace Chinese culture instead, proclaiming himself emperor of Yuan Dynasty China. Mongolians were nomadic horsemen who don't grow their own food, so in the end, it was Chinese farmers who grew food to feed the empire. Mongolians don't know anything about how to run an empire, so Chinese bureaucrats were left to keep such a large empire running. So in what way is Yuan dynasty China not a Chinese Dynasty?
Even after Yuan dynasty collapse, Ming emperors controlled Tibetan affairs from China. The title of Dalai Lama was actually bestowed onto Tibetan leaders by Ming emperors, the Prince of Shunyi, as a symbol of granting him the right to rule Tibet in his stead. Even if you discount Ming, Tibet was also part of Qing dynasty China isn't it?
Who are you to come to China as exchange student only find our education system disappointing? China ranks 3rd in most popular international education destination and Ministry of Education reported a total of 442,773 international students were studying in China in 2016, so who are you to mock our system? As for ethnic minorities performance, you do know that China's population is 95% Han Chinese, so what are the odds of having top performing ethnic minority? Its just not realistic to expect ethnic minorities to consistently perform well in universities, given such a ethnic demographic.
Ethnic minorities like Tibetans also enjoy special benefits like free education until university that Han Chinese do not get to enjoy. Tibetans and other ethnic minorities are also get tax exemptions, healthcare benefits, and educational bursaries. For example, if Han Chinese need 500 points to qualify for a university course, Tibetans and ethnic minorities only need 300 points (easier) to qualify for the same course. So in what way are ethnic minorities in China treated unfairly? Of course, majority of China is still Han Chinese, but what do you expect the government to do about Han Chinese majority?
You despise Chinese education system, when our system has consistently produced students with among world's highest average IQ at 105? Who are you to look down on our system, when it has performed remarkably well in global rankings? Chinese education system has long history and Chinese scholars have been studying for examinations since thousands of years ago, when Chinese invented imperial examination system. In fact, this merit system was spread from China to British India during the 17th century, and then into continental Europe, so who are you to mock Chinese education system when it is thanks to China that world education has improved?
Merit System: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merit_system
So you come to China for few years, then suddenly you become expert in China's 5000 year history and know everything there is to know about China? Who do you think you are? You are just foreign exchange student in our country for few years. Even Chinese scholars and historians are making new discoveries and uncovering mysteries about our past, even in this day and age, so what makes you know more about China than what Chinese people know?
When did I ever labelled "other cultures as backward and inferior"? Can you quote me the exact words I said?
China doesn't allow UN people to visit Tibet, because 14th Dalai Lama was a traitor who conspired with CIA in separatist activities against the government. In 1951, the 14th Dalai Lama signed the signed Seventeen Point Agreement, acknowledging China's sovereignty over Tibet. Eight years later, he broke the agreement led uprising in 1959 against the government with the help of CIA. Normally, Tibetan spiritual leaders are supposed to be removed from worldly affairs, but by involving himself in politics, the 14th DL is no longer fit to be leader of Tibet. You think a true spiritual leader will use his religious influence to train Tibetan guerrillas to fight against the government? That is exactly how terrorists hijack Islam by acting as pseudo priests to convince their followers to die for their political cause.
14th DL is to China, what Wikileaks whistle-blower Edward Snowden is to America. Snowden now seeks refuge in Russia, so you think USA will allow Snowden back into America after what he's done? In the same way, China will not let 14th DL back into China without making him pay for his crimes. CIA knows this and is secretly sponsoring DL to preach in various different places, while his followers (exiled Tibetans) suffer. Exiled Tibetans are already so poor, so where does 14th DL get the money to even engage in talks and campaigns? Answer: CIA
I don't think you actually learnt anything on your trip to China. You tell me to travel to other countries and broaden my horizons, but you yourself travel to China and left with the same Western mindset impressed upon you when you were born. You never tried to understand issues from China's point of view at all, and constantly mock our government and education as inferior. Exactly how are you being humble, when you obviously think you know everything about China and Tibet simply because you been here and talked to some "professors"?
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+L C You mentioned you were "extremely disappointed" with China's education system. In the same way you described, Chinese students can always visit your country and feel disappointed with the lack of mathematical and sciences skills of your students now, can't they? Why you blame China's education system because it is weaker in some aspects and stronger in others? I don't blame your country for not producing globally recognized levels of science and mathematics isn't it?
As far as I know, China is the top international school in Asia, beating even Japan and Korea so I don't think those countries have an issue with our education system. If you look world map of national IQ scores, China, South Korea and Japan share almost equally high IQ levels, so isn't that indication that such people do not harbor such criticisms towards Chinese education system?
World Map of National IQ Scores
targetmap.com/ThumbnailsReports/16799_THUMB_IPAD.jpg
Obviously, you went to China, but returned without any meaningful insight into China, since you still harbor the same impression of China that Western media has probably imprinted onto you since birth. Would you like to tell me exactly how has your visit to China affected your view of China? Because you are unchanged in your views regarding our educations system, our government, Tibet and so on, so exactly how did the trip affect you at all?
Education is not copying, but why is copying not a form of education? You think Chinese people learned nothing by studying other countries? Every country copies technology from one another at some point in history and eventually improve on the original designs. For example, US tank technology is advanced today, because it absorbed the WW2 Nazi technology. The US space program made use of Nazi V2 Rocket scientists to develop rockets capable of reaching the Moon. Would USA be as successful as it is today without copying?
So it is true that Damaru drums are made from human skulls, so why did you say "You're also very wrong about the Damaru stuff."? Which part of my statement is wrong?
Really, 90-95% of Chinese people is Han Chinese. Are you really sure you've been to China at all?
When did I ever labelled "other cultures as backward and inferior"? Can you quote me the exact words I said?
I have wrong views? How do you know you aren't the one having wrong views? You have been consistently wrong on a number of things already.
Mao's policies may have been disastrous in his later life, but Mao Zedong had managed to unify whole China, where the previous administration KMT failed to do so. China was once democratic when Sun Yatsen overthrew Qing dynasty in 1911 and established Republic of China. But ROC failed to unify China and China was plagued by various warlords fighting for control as well as invasion by Japanese. Next China tried communism and it managed to unify all of China, where ROC failed to do so. But while Mao was brilliant tactician, he was poor governor and his disastrous policies affected China adversely, so Deng Xiaoping stepped in and introduce capitalism, which brought much progress to China till today.
As you can see, it was not easy to come by to China's current arrangement. The CPC has long acknowledged the mistakes of Mao's policies and even Mao himself made self-criticism and stepped down from being state Chairman, which allowed Deng to introduce his economic reforms. I have never said Chinese government is perfect, but the fact that it learns from past mistakes is what enables it to adapt to changing circumstances.
Great Leap Forward
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward#Impact_on_the_government
The government and people of China have long since moved from the failed policies of Red China, but that does not mean we have forgotten the lessons. The Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution are taught in Chinese textbooks today so that the mistakes won't be repeated again in future. Remember that people back then did not know that those policies would turned out to be so harmful for China. Hindsight is 50-50 isn't it?
It is unlikely that the people of Tibet will be granted freedom. If the people of Scotland want freedom then you are free to follow your own system, but will it be beneficial for United Kingdom if it breaks apart? A unified country is strong, while a divided country is weak. That's why China fight so hard to hold on to Hong Kong and Taiwan. America is strong because it consist of united states. Soviet Union was strong for same reason, and after USSR dissolution, Russia is not as powerful. EU was strong because it was unified, and now EU weakened because of Britain's exit. Scotland also probably wants to leave UK, so what good will come out of this separation? If your country had the means to prevent such separation, why not make use of it to ensure your country's continued survival?
As for people leaving China, China has world's largest population, and therefore there is competition for resources. With such high student population, competition for tops schools and higher education is fierce and intense, and some students are forced to seek education outside of China. To China, the rest of the world is severely underpopulated, so the government sees nothing wrong with people leaving the country as the country's resources are already taxed to the limit.
As for rich Chinese buying up properties in other countries, there could be a number of reasons. Most people leave China because of the pollution or they want to invest their money in something substantial outside of China. Also, quite a few CPC officials are corrupt and could be trying escape the government and hiding the money by buying up properties in other countries. But the government is also trying to catch overseas corruption according to following article.
China’s Overseas Anti-Corruption Efforts Nets 288 Suspects
thediplomat.com/2014/11/chinas-overseas-anti-corruption-efforts-nets-288-suspects/
It is apparent that you are still colored by Western perceptions of China and that your visit to China has not really changed your opinion of China much. After all, your perception of China appears to be stuck in Red China, when many Chinese people have long since moved on from that period. Our government is not perfect, and made many mistakes in the past. But many Chinese today believe that it has redeemed itself by lifting 600 million people out of poverty today. According to World Bank, China's poverty fell from 88% in 1981 to 6.5% in 2012.
Poverty in China
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_China
Since you are foreigner, it is unrealistic to expect you to view China through lens of Chinese person, since you never grew up during those hard times. To you, modernization was easy process, but for China it was tumultuous and difficult period and it not easy to get to where we are today.
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+Debtanu Chakraborty What makes you think Tibet would have modernized without the help of CPC? Tibet is located in the Himalayas and was isolated from rest of the world throughout history. Tibet's mountainous soil was infertile and unsuitable for agriculture, so it will have hard time feeding its population. Even in 1950s, Tibet had no schools (besides Buddhist Monasteries), no hospitals, no roads, no electricity and plumbing. Even the Dalai Lama has admitted that "Tibet, materially, is very, very backward. Spiritually it is quite rich. But spirituality can't fill our stomachs." So what makes you think Tibet would have modernized itself under Dalai Lama's rule?
Source: theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/feb/10/tibet-china-feudalism
I have said that Damaru drums were made of human skulls and skin so exactly what am I saying wrongly here? Why do you people say I am completely wrong in this regard?
What do you know about how Chinese government treats Tibetans at all? Why don't you look at Indian Army atrocities committed on people of Kashmir before you talk about China? Many Muslim women have become victims of rape and sexual assault in the conflict and the frequent rape of Kashmiri Muslim women by Indian state security forces routinely goes unpunished.
-A study in 2008 by Médecins Sans Frontières concluded that Kashmiri women are among the worst sufferers of sexual violence in the world
Many cases not reported because of the shame and stigma associated with rape in Kashmir. Indian Army officers, of the rank of major or above, have participated in torture as well as sexual violence and the Indian government was covering up such acts.
Rape during the Kashmir conflict
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_Kashmir_conflict
In contrast, Tibetans today live better life with modern technology than what is happening in Kashmir even till today.
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+Debtanu Chakraborty The reason some Chinese may have treated Indians like that is because people like you lack logic. You want to compare Tibet to Singapore? Singapore is one of world's most busiest ports, because of its strategic location, whereas Tibet is isolated and landlocked. You think Tibetans could afford to build infrastructure? Qinghai railway is world's highest elevation railway built by Chinese on difficult mountainous terrain, through regions of permafrost and low oxygen level regions, so much that every carriages has oxygen supply for EACH passenger and every train has a trained doctor. You think Tibetans could afford that without China?
Tibet population is small because of insufficient food to feed everyone and you mean being "gender neutral" is enough to qualify for self-modernization? Who would accept that simply treating genders equally, means the country will modernize automatically? There are so many factors to determine modernization, yet you quote gender equality as one of your points? Also, unlike India, full ordination of women as nuns never occurred within Tibet, and all Tibetan education was conducted by the Tibetan monasteries, meaning Tibetan women were virtually illiterate throughout their lives.
Rising India and China only modernizes Tibet, because of Tibet is part of China, and is rising with China as well. For example, Nepal also located between India and China, but lacks the proper infrastructure developed in Tibet by Chinese. Nepal also lacks proper healthcare whereas Tibet has hospitals. Internet access is also not widely spread, so in what way has Nepal truly modernized itself with respect to Tibet here?
You think religion and spiritually alone can support Tibet? In 2001 the Dalai Lama himself already said Tibet, while rich in spiritually, is very, very backward materially and that spirituality can't fill stomachs, so how is it religion alone able to feed the Tibetan population.
winter han is right in the sense of how hard it is to talk with someone with completely different view of the world. Even this L C guy lived in China as exchange student and studied here, but he still retains Western perception of China and left without learning anything and changing his mindset. Yet people like him encourages others to travel and "open" their minds? Such hypocrisy.
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+Debtanu Chakraborty You lied about Singapore not having busy port since it was built. Singapore always been gateway between East and West because of its strategic location, which was why British colonial powers colonized it in the first place. You think the British didn't see the value of Singapore as port to trade with the east? Singapore became one of Britain's prized colonial possessions, and after it gained independence, Singapore government began developing its port facilities further to take advantage of its location.
Tibet, however, is landlocked and so far, India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, etc are not as concerned over Tibetan control of water as they should be. If it were really that important, then why don't those countries attempt wrest control of Tibet from China? There hasn't been much dispute over water issues, and frankly, our countries are more interested in border disputes than caring about water sources, so why do you still believe that these countries will sudden be interested in "investing in Tibet for water management of the entire continent?" Up till now, none of those countries have expressed any interest whatsoever, except China.
Modernization of Tibet involves more than just building Qinghai railway alone. Chinese workers have also built hospitals and schools and universities to provide better healthcare and access to education for Tibetans. Through the railway, modern technology such as farming equipment, cars, electronics such as smartphones, computers and appliances were introduced to Tibet. You think every Tibetan wants to grow up to be poor yak farmer or Tibetan monk? Young Tibetans want to education to find paying job, buy luxuries such as cars and other electronic devices, get married and settle down, so what right do you have to decide that Tibetan's should be isolated from rest of the world, and remain poor forever? You aren't even living in Tibet, so what do you know how Tibetans feel about the government?
It was the Dalai Lama who quoted: "Spirituality doesn't feed stomachs." so why are you blaming me all of sudden? If you really thing the Dalai Lama's own words are BS, then you should tell it to him directly. I don't abuse vulgarities against you so why are you being so disrespectful?
What war dragon image are you talking about? China has not been involved in any war since our last major war in 1979 and has been peaceful for 30 years, so what are you talking about? Tibet was part of China during Qing Dynasty up to in 1912 and China only reclaimed it back in 1951. Contrary to what you said, China is not only America's biggest trading partner, but most of the world as well, including India, does business with China, so what suspicion are you referring to here?
So just because you don't like modernization, means you deny Tibetans the right to education, to healthcare, and to other modern amenities like Internet? Who do you think you are? Like I said above, Tibetans deserve access to modern technology, instead of living in stone ages, without water, electricity and gas. As for gender equality, have you ever noticed that all Tibetans monks were men? Nuns in Tibetan Buddhism wasn't widely accepted, only until recently and like I said, Tibetan monasteries controlled all of Tibetan's education. In my previous sources, I highlighted the sexual abuse of young Tibetan monks so what makes you think Tibet had any true sense of gender neutrality?
You speak of self-immolation in Tibet, but at most only 100 or so Tibetans have protested by self-immolation, but does that mean that all 3 million Tibetans want independence? Why should 3,000,000 Tibetans give in to the demands of 100 or so self-immolating protestors? In India, as many as 1,451 and 1,584 self-immolations have been reported in 2000 and 2001, respectively. That's already much more serious than in Tibet, so why don't Indian government do something about it? You speak of gender neutrality, when in India there are forced marriages, unaffordable dowries, and bridal abuse by burning/acid scarring and various sexual abuses? Who are you to talk of rape when Indian Army soldiers have been raping Muslim women in Kashmir even till today? Why don't you Indians fix India's own problems first* before complaining about China's treatment of Tibet?
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+Debtanu Chakraborty Who is the one somehow believe that landlocked Tibet could be as prosperous as the port of Singapore due to location alone. Look at other Himalayan countries like Bhutan and do you consider them prosperous? Bhutan didn't even have television until 2001s and even till today, relies heavily on India for trade, so what makes you think Tibet would be more successful than Bhutan? Look at Nepal, located between India and China, but still not as prosperous as Singapore. Your logic doesn't even make sense yet, you somehow believe Tibet can magically modernize by itself?
You said "China could modernize itself without the help of the West." so why can't every other country also modernize without the help of the West? Look at India, it has world's 2nd largest population, therefore a large workforce like China. Indians speak English, while Chinese are still struggling with English. Indians also have democratic system whereas China is communist. Republic of India became independent in 1947, two years before People's Republic of China was founded in 1949. Yet China overtook India. So why do you still think that any country in the world is able to modernize by itself?
Why are you so obsessed with femininity and rape? Who said anything about expressing femininity equals rape? Besides Indian Army raping the Muslims in Kashmir, Indian Peacekeeping Force sent to Sri Lanka to fight the Tamil Tigers, went to rape the local Tamil women instead. Indian forces participated in number of incidents of human rights violation, including rape, torture, detention and massacres, like Valvettiturai massacre. IPKF even entered Jaffna teaching hospital over 70 civilians were massacred.
(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Peace_Keeping_Force#Controversies )
First off, the numbers are 3,000,000 to 100, so why do you take the actions of 100 Tibetans self immolating to represent the whole of 3 million Tibetans views? What about the 1,451 and 1,584 self-immolations in India? Isn't that a much more urgent matter to address than the actions of 100 Tibetans self-immolations? Why don't you Indians fix your own problems of rape in Indian Army, forced marriages, self-immolatinos etc before you start talking about how China handles Tibet?
The Dalai Lama said that verse and I am merely quoting him, so why are you calling it BS and labeling me a troll, because I quoted him? Who is the troll here who still thinks Tibetans want freedom when it is clear that they don't, You don't see 3,000,000 Tibetans protesting against the government, now don't you? Countries all over the world have recognized Chinese sovereignty over Tibet, and when you draw map of PRC, Tibet is always included as part of China. Even the uploader's video shows this at 0:10.
As for Kashmir, most of the world accepts it part of Pakistan. Even uploader's video at 2:43 shows Indian map without Kashmir as part of India, so why are you complaining? India has had almost 70 years to reclaim that territory from Pakistan, but didn't achieve it, so whose fault is it here?
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