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andrefrbk
Sure, just stay put man, the RS is always worth the wait, An AudiS4 may be a better luxury car and I reckonU cant get an S4 as well with 50k USD, U need to push at least 56k for S4,
The RS has high demand as of now because its already a proven machine, the RS needs no introduction cuz its already beaten the old WRX STi and EVO X in terms of pure fun and driving thrills despite being FWD,
So when Ford states an AWD Focus RS is due dealers will rejoice and misuse the opportunity quiet natural,I ve seen people complain about such nuisance at Fords facebook page/twitter page etc and getting justice, try that if you want the best 4WD hot hatch, if not try something else, or wait some time, in a few months with new Camaro 1LE etc coming to stores the rush for RS will subside then U might get the RS for the desired price
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Soren Lausen Not just name, better fit finish, better cabin insulation,better gearbox,better premium leather,more solid cabin,and finally name and YES name counts, a brand that has won over the world with most Le Mans wins,most GTE class wins,has produced worlds most user friendly super cars like R8,worlds fastest 4 door sedan like RS7,world car f the year awards,world engine of the year awards,no of engines on its inventory will make Mazda engineers shy like 3 year olds sweating pants
On that front what does Mazda have, it just has 1 MX-5,RX-7 there ends its story
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I dont understand what you guys mean, see have u ever tried the new Mazda 3 and 6,
I have driven it extensively and I absolutely cant ignore iys harsh suspension cheap feeling doors,poor faux wood inserts,horrible and terrible in cabin insulstion,
The i drive like button in center console in the car I drove had a super cheap goggly feel when navigated with some pace like its gonna peel of from its cap,
The ride quality over broken roads were so bad that a passenger on the back seat complained to like drive careful man, but the same way I drove in Audi,Ford Focus,VW golf no problem at all, really jittery ride, also no turbo petrol power plants,
I mean what is all this,if all this are sacrificed to lower cost that dosent mean,its better, also I just always do the door shut thud testing in all cars I drive even a Ford Fiesta/VW polo is as strongly built as a Mazda 3,
So if one needs to find as in where has Mazda cheapened the price tag,its abvious but ignoring it is not the best idea,
Also world car of the year is fluke in your dreams poor boy,its a real test, I am an official who works with an Organisation named SIAM which also makes some contributions to this award in a very indirect way at least and guess what,do you know the runner up of world car of the year 2015, it was Mazda 3 2.2 TDCI and the Audi A3 handily beat it in all respects.
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Yup actually if Germans want they too can make a car like that eg Porsche 911 turbo s,it destroys even the GTR NISMO,
But its expensive, think of VW making a 911 turbo s with justVW gOLF levels of interior quality fearures etc, it wud make GTR cry the hell out,
The reason VW dosent do somethong like that is simple, porsche Vw audi lambo etc are now siblings so if VW makes one like that the rest will follow,
2nd reason is marketing,if they make a car like that all others like r8v10,rs5,etc sales will suffer big time cuz everybody ll go 4 thw budget Gtr killer,
3rd is German standards of car making is very high, they wont make a car without certain levels of fit finish,inyerior quality,sound deadening,solidity etc
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dominicancash
Yeah, it broke record but in reality, how far can we push these cars,
I tried the Leon Cupra 280 dsg at the Slovakia Ring and I cudnt do even what a BMW M235i can do at the ring,
The Focus RS murdered the Cupra 280 innma hands as well,
So there is a lot more than these advertisements,how much performance a layman can extract out f these cars is whats importsnt and for that the Golf R seems to be much better than Club sport and Focus RS does have some gutts too,
Type R is a real hero, very fast but somehow it too felt like a one party trick,
The best all rounder hatch back is definitely Focus RS, a close second is VW Golf R
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David Nelson
See the Honda Nurburgring claim is still under scanner, the tire used the engine spec etc was not at all clear,
Also another test at Slovakia Ring between Focus RS and Type R showed that Type R is not that fast, The Slovakia Ring is a very long track, so it suits the Hondas nature best and despite having way better power toweight than Focus RS and RS having PSS and noy Cup 2s,
Botj did the same lap time of 2:34.90 for RS and Type R was 2:34.95
Not just that in a lot of other tracks too even Seat Leon Cupra SC can hang on or beat the Type R showing its not the best.
Evo car of the year also tested the Tupe R vs Focus RS vs Leon Cupra SC vs Clubsport S at Bedford Autodrome west.
They too say the Ckubsport S is easily best FWD hot hatch, its also a better hot hatch than Focus RS and Type R, the 2nd best is again surprise Leon Cupra SC 290,
So even though Type R is good, its really not the best...any brand can beat the Honda, but taking business into account the brands are doing it the safe way.
Honda has just 2 performance cars to sell a Type R and NSX unlike VW,Seat,Ford etc who have like more than 2 hot carz per segment,
So they wont make a track special car and over price it,
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sic22l See do u think Focus wud ve become worlds best selling car with the European setup, it was not just Europe that elevated Focuses sales, it was China,Taiwan,Thailand,USA,Brazil,Australia as well, and in all these countries whether u believe or not COMFORT is top priority not handling, so Ford made the MK3 much more softer to appeal to the global audience without tryin to harm handling and it didnt work quiet well for European buyer but elsewhere it worked
Also Golf is a major Ford killer in 2 forms , in the form of Octavia where space is limousine like and in the form of Golf where quality just leaped boundaries,I am dead sure if VW had not released the MK7 Golfs by 2013, Ford wud definitely have had a chance with the face lift at least, but Golf became lighter so more agile yet quality is in Audi territory,also if 1 wants space Octavia or Jetta r too Golfs, so it just made monstrous sense to go after MQB rather than Focus
Anyway Ford will update Focus by 2017 with release of RS by 2016, and it might jump well into Audi,BMW territory in terms of quality,refinement,SPACE etc and Ford is trying hard on it according to USA based Ford insights cuz they r well aware of Golfs might
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Sic22l
Yes thats if Focus had the mk2 type stiff setup it wud have appealed a lot in Europe,USA but not in Asia,Australia,china etc,but the biggest problem is lack of good quality refinement etc to match a Golf even after update,
Golf has always been Fords nemesis,from Fiesta to Mondeo VW has Polo to Passat to pick a fight and this fight is too hard for Ford cuz VW is such a multi billionaire plant compared to Ford,VW dont even care about losses,in USA VW is in such heavy loss that most other brands in this lossy state wud stop making cars,but VW has so much budget that they just kept their cool,sold cars for extremely lossy prices,yet the overall global revenue is so damn high that they still keep goin in USA
So its pretty damn difficult to fight a VW or Skoda for any brand,
Ford is going to replace Mk3 with mk4 with a new global C platform that will spawn a new kuga,c max,and new Lincoln car for USA ,same
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The highlight of new C platform is more space and more built in safety and refinement without loosing fun to drive nature,
Also take a look at Fords chinese Escort,its an awesome car developed in China with Fords mk2 chassis and underpinnings,that car will b an experiment in china,if Ford can sell more than 50% or more Escorts than Focus in China that car will go global,
Take a look at that car and think of it,its definitely gonna overtake Focus,u now why, space,family friendly nature,this is what people want more than fun to drive,so one cant blame Ford for making Focus softer
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Sic22l
No man,u r not getting to the point,back in 2006 Focus had just the Golf and Astra as comprtition,Hyundais,peugots,citroens,renaults etc were worse,but by 2010 all the other brands started improving interior space and interior quality and for a layman SPACE IS LUXURY,and Focus with mk3 made a big mistake it became more comfy but it dosent have the effective space inside compared to competition,also quality and feature list on competition were so high that it was compelling.
See the mk3 focus is one of best selling car in the world currently in 3 rd place,and if this improvement over mk2 wasnt made it would have failed hard in almost all other markets and Focus wud have been an EU only car with constant sales and no improvement.
Focus is still a good car but Golf is better with lighter MQB and Audi rivaling interior quality its common sense for most Eu people to buy Golf over Focus,just take an entry level 1.6 TDI or 1.2,1.4 tsi and it made lot of sense over Focus,also if space is important Golf again comes in form of Octavia and if handling is important again Golf comes in its 3rd avatar Seat Leon,so basically Focus got attacked from all angles, also in lots of countries where people preferred AT cars Fords powershift is no where near as good as VWs Dsg so that too impacted,also just see how good the new i30,ix35, i40 models from hyundai are they too just raised the quality bar equal to the Focus,so the Focus was under boat load of pressure.
Also can u explain why Mondeo sales dipped hard and Fords Mondeo plant in Spain too was closed,Mondeo even till 2014 is best handling car but sales declined drastically naa,its just not handling but quality,comfort,space,luxury too are what people care more about nowadays,in these aspects Ford isnt a highlight anymore,thats why
Now as told before Ford will launch mk4 focus and mk7 Fiesta by 2017 until then sales need to be kept constant,for that the facelift,by that time Fors too will reach a highly Golf competetive level still having a fraction of edge on handling department over Golfs,
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Sic22l
I agree to ur point to an extent but if Ford was in Europe only,then could have ended closing factories in Asia,australia,usa etc so they were forced to make a global car,
Even if Ford had made the mk3 handle like go kart,it wouldnt make em enuf profit to sustain outside Europe,also if u know Mazda is making huge progress and Ford cannot easily compete with Mazda as well cuz it ll give customers better handling car with cheaper price tag,so Ford was forced to make Focus softer,also Fords RS division manager Carlos was bought by VW,I mean VW is making world domination campaign now,to resist that global growth is a must.
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Sic22l
Sure they could have used a different suspension setup for EU and even new Mondeo isnt the best handling car in its class anymore its again a Mazda 6, see the new gen Mazda is really good,
One should also understand that Focus still handles better than Golf,the mk7 is the one that really closed the gap that too only in 2013 that too due to lighter weight,so focus still handles brilliantly compared to competition,
More for the last two years as well Focuses sales remained constant,i just checked it for Europe,the sales decline came from Mondeo,S max,C max,and the Kuga couldnt ignite sales as well,so I dont think Focus is to fault here,Ford lost heavily in eu due to spain,belgium,russia,italy all these countries had economic recession and since Ford had plants eveywhere,depreciation occured heavily,so second hand market gained over first hand ones making lot of Fords stay on their own stables.
By 2013 focus sales declined a bit due to new Golf,but the real loss was Mondeo,s max,galaxy,etc which people didnt buy even with rebates,so I dont think handling was a serious issue as mentioned,
The lack of handling might have disappoonted just 10% customers,90% still like the Focus but GOLF does everything,in a balanced way and the interior just crosed boundaries thats why I tell its Golf thats hurting Focus and even the renaults and peugots,its too good now.
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sic22l Still I dont think sharpening the handling would have made a huge difference,
The VW group is the one thats creating the problem, think f it, if there was no Golf, then Focus wud ve been in its place easily
The Golfs interior,rolls royce of hatchbacks comfort,refinement,and even handling just cannot be ignored,
Fords MK3 is already 3 years old when Golf put out the MK7,so time advantage too goes to the Golf,Ford knows what they r doing, they kno they ve messed up the MK3 even still it became a success elsewhere in the world cuz of comfort,like in Asia,Australia,USA etc
Sure Ford cud ve made a more agile Focus for EUrope but the already ailing economy and blistering competition made em think, lets back off a bit, give the designers and engineers more time to perfect the MK4,so until mk4 comes out MK3 will be loosing sales,its quiet natural, if it had that MK2 levels of handling too it would have depreciated quiet a bit still not at this rate in Europe, but else where it would have died off, so its not easy as it seems to make different suspensions for different continents, different tuning is OK
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Well I cant argue,from Europeans sales chart its pretty much clear that Focus when launched in 2011 the mk3 had a huge spike in sales by december 2011,by 2012 december Focus became one of worlds best selling car and Europes 4th best seller,mk7 golf got launched by 2013 and thats when Focuses sales started declining heavily not only in Europe but in Australia,and with Mazda 3 etc in Usa there too sales decline,whereas for the worlds biggest market China the sales are increasing at like 200% rate,I bet if Focus was as hardcore as the one in Europe this would have never occoured in China,Malaysia,australia,etc
What u shud understand is its not easy to combine refinement with quality with handling,and as of now Golf does it better
Sure Focus has gone a couple of notches below in terms of handling but the number of modern new customers who desire quality,luxury,comfort is more than people who desire for handling,thats a truth even for Europe,
Focus face lift will again raise Focus interest quite a bit because the poor interior design was a deal breaker for a lot of people,now its solved,also a touch screen too comes as standard,different tune for electric power assisted steering too,evn tho the face lift dosent seem significant according to media reviews I find it a MUST for Focus and this will increase sales of Focus cuz luckily with face lift no price hike like the hike in price of mk7 golf,
Also addition of DCT auto with paddle shifters at higher trims too will keep keen drivers thinking,like shud I buy DSG or DCT,cuz of paddle shifters.
There is a lot of things going on for Focus,its all about integraring everything into a single package,I am sure a stiffer susoension setup and a electro mechanical steering would have made Focus much more appealing in Europe but,the extra cost they spent for these developements only fir Europe wont give global Ford any significant gains,
Also new 1.5 tdci has sorted out a lot of Dpf issues and emits less than 100g co2,so its got cleaner while providing more power,so Focus will strike back but not with the same force as it used to be,but will make up a respectable sales number.
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V Sizzle
Its a C7 Corvette Stingray
Reason is pure and simple,
Front engine big V8
Smart handling, good living space with all modern amenities,
Lots of traction decent to great steering feel,
Lot of perforance at an affordable price tag,
I ve driven 911 Carrera S and I love it more than Stingray but its out of a common mans affordable limits,
While the Stingray is affordable proper super car.
Again regarding NSX, I am not saying its the worst but defonitely not upto Huracan,R8v10+,McLarens, or even Nissam GTRs,
Even a hardcore Honda fan who has an S2000 who has piled up cash for the NSX was utterly disappointed after driving NSX,
He says its fat and does feel so at corners, the steering has almost 100% assisted feel which he says takes away from a super car experience, the brakes felt incredibly artifocial, even the interior and infotainment etc felt sub par compared with a 911 or any of its competirion,
He has booked a new Boxster S as of now.
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V Sizzle
Run for ur life be4 I eat ur gutts out scary cat
Now how many awards exactly did the NSX win, see the Corvette Grand Sport is far far far better machine than the super digital NSX, see what was NSX all about originally
simple naturally aspirated fun machine that cares shit about lap times but reliable and FUN
Now the new NSX complicated heavy piece of shit with too much tech, absolutely horrendous steering because its connected to electric motors to simulate steering feel, and AWD, come on Honda, anybody can make an AWD car go wicked fast, make A RWD machine stick to ground , I ll accept U ve skill
The Vette is RWD, 460 hp and yet sticks to the ground like crazy, lap times aside its unbelievable how a simple push rod V8 can eat the shit out of the bull shit Honda, even Fords new GT with TT V6 is light years better than Hondas shit
Now I havent heard of any Corvette fires, stop making up bull shit looser
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V Sizzle
U just saw a Corvette burn yesterday
Such a puny liar U are...
Road and track is not even as genuine as the Car and driver guys, and is probably the only magazine that gave NSX a thumps UP,
Motor Trend, autocar, auto express, top gear, and almost all of the German magazines including sport auto gave the NSX an average score at best, now deal with it
NSX is no way a great car, I say the gen 1 NSX was a much much better machine than the new piece of shit
Now I am not at all a GM guy but I agree the Vette is worlds best bang for buck super car,
Honda is light years behind Ford/Gm in making super cars, sorry
I wont talk to an immature like U anymore because U r bent on foolish facts which I cant change from ur idiotic mind, good bye have a great NSX orgy dream
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Maloyutu
I have driven the Mondeo and the new one that is Fusion as well,but its not as good as current gen Mercedes E class and BMW 3.series and maybe as good as a Passat ,still what I absoluty hate to say is new Mondeo isnt as spacious inside ss new Passat,its at best as spacious inside as new Merc C class,
Also interior quality generally is very good but on the centre of centre console there r some really annoying scratchy plastics
The new Mondeos automatic 6 speed torque converter sucks
And as from this video it lacks steering feedback of old unit as well
All in all new Mondeo is a great car but its not an outright better product over the new Passat and the German trio,
Since pricing is cheaper in UK its got a faint chance to succeed,still its not a compelling package as it used to be
Its not because Mondeo is bad but competition is that tuff specially the new Passat its much more spacious,dsg is waybetter,has lots f clever features,its economical in a way new Passar is a better car but Mondeo looks the part and the quietness new Mondeo has inside is something that ezceexs class expectations,
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