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See no need to worry about Lexus vs BMW vs MERC vs Audi
Cuz for some who wants peace of mind and cheap luxury the Lexus makes sense,there r a lot of soft riders,who just want quiet ride,plush ride,comfy features and space and for em lexus makes sense cuz its cheaper 2 buy,but its no way overall a better car than German trio,thats y so much brand image still halos German trio,the German trio earned those names with hard work and supreme attention to detail,
Lexus is a brand that grew up tryin to immitate and compete with em,
Just look at latest lexus RCF its crap compared to German trio,still its a lexus,so cheap and reliable,thats wht some people want,so it ll stay in market for some time,but when German trio makes the next step lexus will lag,again play catch up,this ll continue
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Mr Wonderful
Agree with the part of reliability and after slaes and service costs of Lexuses,
Just do u think it drives,has more qualitu,more comfort,mor presense,more class inside than the BMW,AUDI,MERC competition,
See I am an auto journalist as well and since I too test cars I have no bias but I ll admit that I love Fords thats why the name ponygt662,aprt from that when I tested the handling,ride quality,luxury provided,etc I found lexus to be like beefed up Toyotas,like richer Camry,richer Avalon,etc,
Also most Lexuses were slow too,they are good for calm quiet people but if someone really loves driving and wants a car with well balanced qualities its definitely not Lexus.
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Jonny
Lexus has just one LFA whereas VAG has lots of cars,what is a Bugatti Veyron, its a VW,how many diesels do Lexus have, VW has v10,V12,v8 tdi that r more economical and more powerful than any Lexus Hybrid cars or gas v8s
Also isf is not faster than RS4 around tracks, in certain tracks its faster but in most tracks RS4 is faster,
http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel1549-1876.htm
Interior quality is good for both but BMW,AUDI,MERC etc feel more plush and user friendly and the touch screen is of lkw resolution in Lexus and the joystick based input is finicky to use compared to i drive and Audis new super cool speedometer integrated mmi system. Also the German competition leaves more space in the front for driver somehow due to restrained design.
Also VW has Lambo,Porsche, now under its arms so Lexus has no chance,
Give me a Lexus substitute to BMW M235I,AUDI S3,MERC CLA 45 AMG, afforbadle fast beasts with small engines so less carbon emissions and fast as hell.
Why do you think Lexus isnt selling much in Europe,I too had this notion that relaibility is everuthing,but for a person who can spend that much money,the car should be special,so BMW drive brilliant has smart petrol and diesel low displacement engines,and dosent suffer from annoying cvts and slow heavy entry level performance cars,
I have no personal grudge towards Toyota or honda or anything,I already told my bias its for Ford not Germans not Japsnese,so I can be sure of what I felt in between Germans and Japanese.
Still I am not sayin Lexus is bad but its still not quiet as good as Germans,better than Cadillacs buicks infiniti also but not as good as Merc,BMW,Audi,
This is my take after drivin em,if ur opinion is otherwise well and good but this is what I felt after feelin em in person,I work for an auto magazine in India,so I have nothing with Lexus.
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Jonny
Have you been to Aston Martins v8 fascility in Germany,
Do you know the chief designer of new Mondeo used to work for Aston Martin, do you know how much Aston and Ford were co operating back in 2003-05 etc building Vantages,
Fords coyote platform is shared between Jaguar and Aston Martin as well,so the relation between Ford,Aston Martin,JLR is much deeper than a lot of people think,
For eg check out the US only vehicle named Ford Explorer,its supremely reminiscent of Range Rover sport and even houses a second gen terrain response system almost the same thing JLR vehicle uses for their AWD too.
They helped mutually,I mean Aston and Ford to build one of worlds best virtual reality design center where goggles can be used to see and even feel a to be produced car,
So they worked togather a lot more than what internet shares,Ford helped Aston deeply to build its v8 fascility,if not for that ASTON wouldnt have known anything about mass manufacturing,so Aston had mutual respect as well,
Again Fords relationship with Volvo too was intense,they learned a lot of safety and solidity from Volvo,even Fords Taurus US versin is a volvo s80 platform.
Did u even bother to check the images of Ford thunderbird and Ford Puma before commentin,see these cars were from 90s and they had similar Aston Martin cues and styling as well, Ford and Aston Martin had some design themes that were similar,but since these brands were in really good relatuonship both accepted and even today they have no problem,its we who think it looks Aston ish, bo where did Aston Martin make a statement about it.
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Jonny
U didnt get my point maybe u r smoking and reading,
What I am talking about is the same type of design themes Ford,Jag,Aston used in lot of models,
U can go on complaining about it,but from Fiesta to Mondeo,Ford has some design cues that matches with Astons design,even before iy got this new grille,one can see the pronounced swept back headlight design,Ford decided to give face lift to that face by sperating logo from grille to bonnet region like in FORD GT, if one does that Fords trapezoidal grille is full of black plastic that wont exude premiumness,so they chromed it out ,
Sure it has Aston Martin cues but hey Aston designers were given the face lift job and the finished product got maximum. Votes for production as well.
Thats what makes Ford have a differnt loook from its competirion most of em having logos on grilles,
If it was an issue like what u ve been pointin out Astom wud ve filed a patent complaint,nothing happened,just because Aston excists dosent mean an everyday brand like that one shouldnt exist unless its a true copy,in Europe Fieata is one of best selling small cars as well, Focus the 3rd best selling car in the world,both of em now has this new face and its just gettin more and more popular,
Since Mondeo is biggest of Fords line up,it resembles lot of Astons true,if that means copying in your mind its ur impression, its not copying anyway for me since both Aston and Ford had similarity in design of some cars even in 90s,
Just look at Pumas grille,its too Aston Martin like,except it was blacked out and small
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S.T T. Wow, what a reply
Just U think Lexus philosphy is what people should follow, NO, its peoples philosophy that a brand should follow
People want,comfort,luxury,power,performance,handling etc in 1 single package, who does it best its the BMW 320d, it does 0-100 kmph in 7.6s, handles well, rides extremely well, has nice rear legroom, has all the creature comforts 1 wud ever need, now thats the perfect philosophy, now hav u seen the new Audi MMI system the 1 they did py partnering with NVIDIA, I dont think Lexus is even close 2 it,
U tell all German MMI is same, I mean r u mad, just look how the new S Class interior is, In reality I like it even more than Rolls Royce
Rolls is an obsession, it dosent mean its the sportiest, its a collectors item, not a mass car
Who cares from where Lexus comes, what people car is, is it powerful,is it efficient,is it comfortable,is it spacious,is it priced generously.. and Germans does all these better, Y is Audi developing new electric turbo diesels,why twin turbo diesels, they r kno always people will prefer diesel over petrols as long as diesels r banned,common sense, Lexus fails hard to understand that, thats Y thy sell like SHIT in Europe worlds most luxurious market
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Can tuning provide comfort, can tuning provide interior quietness,quality of soft touch door materials used,the mm perfect shut lines,the brilliant set of features it provides,the mileage it provides,the worlds second fastesr gearbox the DSG,NO
Also just youtube GOLF R biturbo,its stage 2 and it even beats 600+ hp LAMBOS,VW nowadays is totally in a league of its own
VAG has le mans,GT series,WRC,DTM,etc etc everywhere they r winners,the worlds biggest selling chassis is also the MQB that skoda,vw,audi,seat share
Just try the new GOLF R,rather than commentin u ll understand what I mean
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Elliott Feaster
Yeah...
I mean Ford lost the Focus with its Focus.
It now has the worst back seats in compact C car class, has the worst drummy plastic interiors, lots and lots of fit and finish issues,
Pathetic boot space despite having longer wheelbase and length than Golf,snd yey its still not as good handling as its MK II big brothet or thr Mazda 3.
Has a crappy MYFord touch, again worst in segment,
Pathetic means totally pathetic dual clutch Getrag auto box,
Slow ecoboost 1.5l engines and slow TDCis.
Lot of reliability issues like weak piston rings,soot formation,EGR clogging easily,...
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Sic22l
I am not from Europe I am from Asia but I van tell u one thing,Focus dosent sell well cuz it lost its handling,this is a wrong notion,
First thing u need to know is Focus even without hydraulic power assisted steering and the old stiff setup now handles better than most cars in fact I still think its even better to drive than a Mazda 3
The second thing is the handling gap has sure come down,mk2 and mk1 focus had a long shot in terms of handling whereas quality,refinement,safety,technology easily was lacking,so Ford improved it to play the catch up,but that didnt work quiet well due to poorly designed interior,
Another thing that people value much much more than space is the green house and space inside,Focus mk2 had more effective legroom and knee room inside than MK3,and that made Focus challenging one to pick over its competition.
Also have u driven the Golf or Octavia or peugot 308 ot somethin like that lately,u ll find that most of em has become simple to use inside and more rich in quality,refinement,tech etc,
For any layman Mazda handles better than Focus and Golf,then y is it that the new Mazda 3 and even new cx5 isnt making hay like it shud ve been, its easy, The GOLF its the biggest problem for Europe,MQB is too good that it kills allnof its competition in form of GOLFs,OCTAVIAs seats
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Tuddec No way buddy just relax, this is just true, in short tight circuits FWD cars always rule, take this battle to a real track,like Sachernring,Rockingham,Angels Crest,Laguna Seca,croft, the Type R will get murdered,
I bet even some hi fi supercars like 458 had crappy lap times in such short circuits
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Wouter Vangossum
The Nurburgring time isnt a final word,
Let them compare it on a fair day and on same time, on similar conditions, also the 275 Hp Renault Megane trophy and Seat Leon cupra 280 too did beat the M4, which isnt something that will happen in reality, just keep ur hopes high but nothing can beat a turbo straight six and the M differential, its already done 1:38.9 in Laguna Seca which is mighty for a luxury car based sports car, just wait, U havent seen Hondas ugly face, it sure wont beat the M4 in long tracks, the M4 can definitely do better.
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Logan L
Well lets do the same at Laguna Seca,Contidrom,Motown mile,Sebring,Suzuka,Llomel,Rockingham,...
See I have driven M4, its way way way better than CTR, maybe its built quality,comfort,features,ride quality,power,sound,fun to drive factor,interior designing,seats, all are way way way better than CTR, CTR is for those Honda fanboys only, I am an enthusiast and I love all superb machines, true, the CTR is best fwd car ever built but it isnt feelsome,it is just a plain jane fast fwd car, even a Fiesta ST is more Fun to drive than CTR.
GTR too s awesome
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