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Common sense flew out the window in the 1970s, and was shot dead and buried this century.
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A reaction to decades of feminist rhetoric blaming men for everything and saying they are bad. The denigration of masculinity is so pervasive that it is even difficult to acknowledge that women have agency in these matters and their actions are not always for the best. Men are sick and tired of all with misandry and when there is a rational discussion of women's behaviour they like to push back a bit to show how women contribute to social problems. Otherwise, how will women come to appreciate how their actions individually and collectively are perceived? Or do you think women don't have roughly equal levels of negativity? That they are somehow better. Or should men just shut up anyway and not be entitled to critique women?
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Everyone misses the significance of what he says at the 6:45 timestamp. Think about it carefully, and what it means for the psychology of both the man and the woman.
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And what is wrong with that? Many men would happily provide, protect and support an affectionate women who gave him emotional and physical love in her spare time, which could include time for her own job and interests. The women's end of the bargain is very rare.
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He clearly implied it was the human supportive qualities that count, not the labour that can be outsourced to secretaries, cooks and housekeepers. Why do you wilfully misinterpret his intent?
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@michamichalak6200 So we are all robots and have no agency whatsoever in making choices. Everything we do is pre-programmed to the tiniest degree. Unprovable hypothesis, hence falls outside the scientific method by definition and becomes a metaphysical a priori postulate.
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@michamichalak6200 You have tried to explain why there may be an illusion of choice/free will, which I already understand. However, you have not answered the charge that such a view is completely outside the scientific method being an unprovable hypothesis. You could argue that given your view, free will is unprovable, as is the absence of free will. Hence, it boils down to metaphysics. In such a case, Occam's razor should apply, namely the simplest explanation is most likely to be correct. As free will fits within evolutionary biology as a means to maximise flexibility and adaptive responses, the common sense deduction is that we have free will because it enables us to avoid random environmental dangers and maximise resource acquisition. Even the lowest of animals adapt to changing environments.
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He would get cancelled. This is a talk about that issue, only veiled. Substitute that for anorexia in his talk and you will have what you are seeking.
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Useful in different ways. He wants to provide, protect and nurture through his actions, and wants her to be supportive, kind, empathic. She wants him to provide, protect and nurture through his actions, and also wants him to be supportive, kind, empathic. The question Orion is proposing, is: do modern women understand the need for their part in this?
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If women have it worse it is because of their nature. Society supports women massively at the expense of men. This is obvious from the huge differentials in objective hardship wrought by women and society on men (male disposability). The only advantage that men have is their hardwiring which also comes at a cost, as it does for women. Objectively, women have it far better than men, but can't accept this fact as it goes against their innate drive to be victims. Men are much more inclined to accept responsibility for their fate. If you wish to dispute this we can discuss all the statistics which prove my point about male disposability.
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@doloresaquines1529 "Where, where, did I mention my looks!!" "What a pity all of you cannot see pics of me at 30!!!".
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@cosmictreason2242 Prideful, lacking self-reflection, and incapable of basic logic.
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It depends on how you define 'useful'. I took it to mean kind, empathic, supportive and loyal. Not doing menial tasks that can be outsourced to commercial service providers.
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No, the women divorce the men, not the other way around. 80% of divorces are initiated by women.
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They will not and probably cannot rise to the occasion demanded of the breadwinner role. Men have always known that providing etc. involves responsibility and sacrifice. What you earn is hers, what she earns is hers also.
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@NolandaNolanda High value men need to be seduced into commitment, not chased.
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Decreasing day by day, month by month and year by year. As a whole, society is organised against reproduction. Hence the collapse in the birth-rate. What is your point from a societal perspective as discussed in this video?
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@beowulf_of_wall_st I agree with much of this and your many other fine comments throughout this thread, but suspect the "don't mind him having women on the side" is a bit niche and not typical for most relationships. But each to their own, no judgement, just trying to go with the likely numbers overall. Cheers.
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And the perception of gain is massively being re-evaluated by men, as conditions have changed and women no longer provide the value they used to, especially on the psychological front.
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No, the video makes clear that it is not at all the case that women are infallible, quite the opposite, they are deluded because they are misaligned with fundamentals. The whole video describes how they are pricing themselves out. Also, women make the mistake of hypergamy based on assessment of men's relative value, not absolute value (is he in the top percentile rather than than what can he provide objectively).
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He never mentioned a maid. That is your filter. I agree with the rest of your comment however.
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The divorce statistics show men stay with their choices more, it is women who initiate divorce much more. Of course feminists will argue it is because the all the men are evil and abusers, but the reality is women are more fickle and transactional and will trade up and out, and are financially incentivised by the nature of the contract and the family courts.
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Character and confidence can be developed and are of prime importance.
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Which is happening less and less as women leave their traditional roles. Western societies, China, Brazil and many other countries have way way lower reproductive rates. So this 'loss' is disappearing. Also, as a loss it is offset by the gains a women wishes for in having kids. Men used to also benefit from this unpaid input from women but the cost to them is rising with divorce and loss of parental and reproductive rights. This all feeds into the cost/benefit analysis which men are very good at.
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@ah6439 I agree, but 'modernity' is rearing its head elsewhere, including India. We are going down the same path pretty much everywhere.
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@shyamalidasgupta671 Your 'middle-class' Indian women are already privileged because they can exploit the labour of the masses for just a few rupees. Either wealth increases throughout so the Indian poor can move away from the drudgery of serving your parasitical middle class, or the poor stay poor and human misery remains. What are you in favour of?
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The 'settling' is only relative to their unrealistic fantasies. Objectively, most 'average' guys would be more than adequate for provision, protection etc. Of course, there has to be compatibility with other attributes not covered by this simplified but useful model.
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But more deeply it is craving, not only 'desire', but craving for existence as an independent ens. The issue is the craving, not the 'existence'.
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Divorce lawyers have their hands full with the 50% of marriages ending in divorce, 80% of which are filed by women. So who is doing the dumping? Of course, all women who divorce are only doing it because the men in their lives are evil cheating pigs. Those women are never dumping the man to trade up, 'find herself', go after some-one better etc. Divorce laws don't incentivise women at all, women are angelic beings without a trace of negativity and are always the victims even when dumping the man (most of divorces as per above).
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@ethanmiller5487 He gets the point well. Women are increasingly financially successful (or persuaded they should be), while miserable because they are failing at other things. It is you who has missed the whole point of the video and most of the comments.
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@lorrilewis2178 Sorry to hear of this example of a bad man. Let's hope not all men are like this. It would be interesting to hear his side of the story - just for balance mind you.
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Evolution. It is rooted in biology, reflecting the different reproductive strategies of males and females.
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Accept more realistic offers.
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@vinipcplayer The new relationships are women "marrying" the State, the biggest daddy around with the deepest pockets, and the monopoly on force, in service of women. This leads to government following the directives and needs of women, and the feminisation of society. Risk and innovation are minimised and conformity and safety maximised. It is well underway and will lead to societal failure, as evidenced by all the historical antecedents that show feminist movements in all civilisations as the prelude to their collapse. Many scholars have laid this out for all to see.
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So true.
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6:45 timestamp lays it all out. You need to think carefully about the amazing wisdom described in the 6:45 timestamp. She: "I am a virgin and have never given it away, and want to wait. But you drive me crazy and I'll kiss and hug you and whisper sweet nothings all day long. Let me look deeply into your eyes you amazing man". He: "Wow, she's a virgin? But she feels like that about me? I bet she will be a cracker when we finally get to it. How can I get that? Maybe she is the virgin waifu unicorn of legend. I need to wife her up".
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Gross generalisation and probably not true. Women don't ask for many reasons, one being fear of rejection. Many men do not mind being asked but probably will also reject at around the same frequency as women, depending upon what is on offer.
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@AD-hh6dd Thanks for the clarification, but I will still disagree about the primary motivation. You think it is what women are taught, I think we all overcome much of what we are taught that is incorrect, after all we are not robots and learn through experience, but more importantly it is because both women and men fear rejection but men must learn to deal with it and it can build character, whereas women fear it and do not know how to handle it, lacking experience. Chicken and egg. But each to their own view, thanks.
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High value encompasses moral qualities. The women has to judge character and be selective. Her actions will likely prevent him from becoming bored. It's really quite simple.
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@Letsplay222 No. Saying there are no high quality men who will stay committed is a sexist slur against men. Of course there are high quality men who have access to more than the usual amount of women but contrary to your assertion this does not mean they will treat all women like trash. Women are filing 80% of the divorces, not men. And no, this is not because all the men who get divorced are evil and deserve it. There are levels of high value men: Tier 1: HVM who has status, wealth.and looks. Tier 2: HVM who has status, wealth, looks and good character. Tier 3: HVM who has all the above and wishes to wife up the best woman available to him. Along comes a woman who knows what she is doing, adds value to his life, makes herself supportive and looks like she will satisfy him. Bingo.
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@Letsplay222 So, you are trying to shame me directly or indirectly, which is a typically female response to threat or lack of understanding/insight. What does it matter what my personal qualities are if the thoughts are presented as logical propositions? Guess what, I can present a concept without it being some emotional projection of my own, try it yourself some day, so I was speaking abstractly although I understand whereof I speak. I am a high value man in most ways: earn a shit-ton of money; have high social status; married to the same woman for 33 years; three adult children; good-looking. Had good relationships in younger years, prior to choosing my wonderful wife. However I admit I am under 6 feet tall, not that it ever mattered the slightest.
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Socialism massive increases the problem as only one sector of society provides the value and the rest absorb it to the loss of the productive. There is no benefit to being productive as your autonomy is taken away. Everyone becomes a parasite and the State becomes coercive. That is clear from history. All life, from amoeba to humans, wish to minimise work expended and maximise resources acquired. When the system encourages both, the society eventually fails, or goes totalitarian.
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As women initiate 80% of divorces, 90% if she has a college degree, and women are overwhelmingly awarded prime custody and significant assets, it is clear that your arguments refer to the behaviour of women seeking resources and children from men and not the other way around.
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@aferg76 Where can I find a unicorn?
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Indeed. The men may be objectively far more valuable than the women, but the women will still want the best. It was ever thus and will not change.
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@SmileyEmoji42 I think you misunderstand me. I agree that it is the subjective value scale of women that is the cause of their problems. By 'objective' in relation to men, I should have clarified, I meant in being able to deliver their end of the bargain in terms of social value. Men still provide the bulk of work that keeps society running. Of course this is being undermined by massive social forces such as those under discussion, and others, so the story is not simple.
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Work, work, work - for the man! That's the chain gang. You go girl!
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Much more on the psychological side of things - a woman's high price tag = can't stop nagging, manipulating, demanding, being dissatisfied, won't accept responsibility, be realistic, appreciate what is done etc. That is not to say that contributions can't be negotiated in good faith. And of course there are men who don't provide the value they should, as women will attest. Nonetheless, men are increasingly coming to the view that "the juice is not worth the squeeze".
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@cosmictreason2242 No but most do because it's a numbers game and social commentary rightly addresses the norms not the exceptions.
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No, it is because the divorce courts are rewarding women for leaving. That is a major reason why men do not wish to get married. Men calculate the odds and they are highly unfavourable. Even when 'value' is adjudicated properly, men end up the losers, almost always. Divorce increases suicide risk in men 800%. Think about that. Why? No doubt feminists would argue that is because men are trashy scum at all times and the loss of their partners leaves them floundering and unable to cope because the perfect women are the only things providing any value to men. Men sort of think that the system is unfair and they are considered disposable by society. So they are checking out.
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