Comments by "Dharmadasa" (@dharmadasa66) on "PsycHacks" channel.

  1.  @lorrilewis2178  Your whole logic rests on the assertion that women in the past were generally subject to abuse by their husbands. But is this true? Life was a lot harder for everyone and social mechanisms acted to protect women to some degree, the only question we have is 'how many women (i.e. proportion,) suffered from abusive husbands, and how did those other mechanisms help to defray that suffering"? Of course women's freedom from such fates is a great thing, but it appears to have been bought by feminism at great cost, such that women's overall happiness is in marked decline from earlier generations. The anti-family side of feminism is one example of a hidden cost. We need objective data, not political propaganda.
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  2. Those are inputs to a healthy relationship. The actual outcomes are 50% divorce, and refusal by women to provide their role while demanding men provide theirs.
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  3. And we are in a dating stock market crash to be followed by a severe depression, so men are bailing out to cut losses.
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  4. it does not appear to be about the equality of the sexes nowadays. Your failure to acknowledge the costs is odd.
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  5. That is not what this video is about.
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  6. Happy marriages are very rare. 50% of marriages end in divorce and we can safely assume those were in the unhappy camp. Of the remained, it is estimated about 20% (i.e. 10% of total) are genuinely happy. So your selection of a the very few marriages that last the test of time to produce a happy outcome does not reflect the general reality.
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  7. Modern society is a short-lived and will collapse back. It is sustained largely by the efforts of men who mine, grow food, build and maintain infrastructure and the technology etc. Men still maintain the basic economy, women working in service roles are not as essential. The technology you speak of requires men, when women say they don't need men they are thinking immediately and short-term, but the social change underway are threatening even this. Men maintain law and order, who will protect you against criminals? Police men. Not women. So when discussing social arrangements, think about who sustains them and why, and if the technology and organisation is sustainable if men think it is not worth doing so.
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  8. In what way does advice to women on overcoming one of the deadly sins equate to inceldom in men? Logic failure.
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  9. Being useful goes way beyond secretarial support and maid services. That's just an inexact metaphor. It means giving support. Like, in empathy, interest, engagement, intimacy. Obviously a high value man can buy labour. Can he buy love? Clearly the support Orion is talking about means on the interpersonal level. It may come as a surprise to realise that most women don't provide these vital functions for a relationship with a good man. They are users just as much as men are.
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  10.  @BasementBerean  Except the State has intervened massively in the markets eg divorce laws. So we do not have ideal free markets as the cost/benefit calculus is massive distorted in favour of women. Also, the benefits provided traditionally by women tend to be less tangible or reducible to contract. So they can be withheld post-contract without accountability.
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  11. You forgot 'boss babe'.
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  12. A woman's 'usefulness' includes emotional support, tenderness, care etc. Not things that can be outsourced to worker drones. You need to think more deeply about value on both sides, as Orion does. The fact the you misunderstand the whole intent is not his fault.
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  13.  @hypnosecoachinghombach7517  Pretty much the same thing. Would you care to elaborate on the key differences?
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  14.  @beowulf_of_wall_st  The data and facts do not enter her calculus, nor do logical deductions. It is always personalised shaming and blaming when views that do not fit her solipsistic world view are presented. It was ever thus, and always will be.
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  15. Be a better judge of character. I thought women were the intuitive ones with high emotional IQ. Why don't you use all that to judge character?
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  16.  @bluebay0  They have no idea what they want. Or rather, confuse it all up with silly concepts that don't work and have no functional strategy.
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  17.  @strikingitrich7630  One aspect of the 'intangibles' is that it is not enforceable under contract, such as marriage. The financial contribution can be quantified and the 'love and affection' cannot. So withdrawal of those intangibles does not materially or contractually affect the woman as it should, hence the 'price' signals are wrong.
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  18. Actually psychopaths have a very fine tuned calculus of advantage and disadvantage, gain and loss, and seek personal gain without regard to the needs of others. However, they are very sensitive to any risk, negative consequence or loss to themselves and so will calculate the potential damage of your standing up to them. You have to be capable of hurting them and they have to know you can and will. Then they respect you, not morally and ethically, but through fear.
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  19. All this is changing. Dating and marriage are way down and loss of both tangible and intangible value is the reason.
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  20.  @mobilemcsmarty1466  Ow! Burn baby burn.
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  21. Traditional society emphasised the things you mentioned. We threw that under the bus and modern society is transactional. It is no better (and no worse) under socialism. Modernity whether capitalist or socialist is just selfishness, short-termism, lack of sacrifice and moral turpitude.
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  22. It is good that it is now reaching the mainstream. Should profound truths be spoken only once, or repeatedly so they stay in consciousness and spread to more people?
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  23.  @Alexxx492  I agree with all of that. The social engineers do not.
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  24. Buddha taught it too.
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  25. Check the timepoint at 6:45 in the video.
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  26. Some way? It's all over the place, women are shouting it from the rooftops and most of it is pretty low grade. 6 feet tall, 6 inches and six figure income. "Oh no, women value kindness, empathy and loyalty....and financial support, safety, emotional stability, good looks, etc etc. ". Well you still have to offer those guys something in return. The problem with women is they are entitled and don't offer much. That is why men are giving up on relationships and some are going overseas. All Orion is doing is asking women to be accountable for the part in establishing a relationship, in the ways most guaranteed to deliver them success. He has plenty of vids to help men learn what they need to offer women. Look at most of his other vids.
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  27. As noted above, high value men do not particularly value high social achievement (education, career success) in women. They already have that stuff themselves. It is not that they hate it, or deprecate it, or are intimidated by it, it just does not count for much in what they want from a woman. These are ancillary or adjunct qualities. What they want is kind-heartedness, empathy, agreeableness, loyalty, support and to be honest, a modicum of looks and sex appeal. That is why high value men are just as likely to marry the hairdresser, barista or waitress as they are the high-powered lawyer or physician. Of course a lawyer or physician can have these eminently feminine qualities if she puts her mind to it. However, most boss babes are mannish, combative and psychologically distorted by the struggle. A high quality woman complements a high quality man in the areas he lacks. Of course also, a female physician and doctor can marry a sweet caring broke man with no career prospects if she wants, but will she really? Will she be happy? How many do this? The funny thing is, being a high quality women (kind-hearted, empathic, agreeable, loyal, supportive etc.) should in principle not be that hard. It does not take years of work. However, it does take character and that is sadly lacking in modern women today. Men mourn the lack of such women. I also acknowledge that men also suffer form the degradation of character resulting from modernity.
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  28.  @ElizabethUkeh  Typically, before forming a long-term bond. Forming a long-term bond is closer to selfless love in men than women. Thats why women initiate 80% of divorces.
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  29. 95%
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  30.  @Nonfiction.Reader  Does not work for modern women either as these generous qualities are quite foreign to them.
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  31.  @lightbluedev  The system is merely reflecting a lot of individual choices made by men and women, as well as societal pressures from corporations and governments. Both men and women blame the opposite sex, and some on both sides take responsibility. However, most of the changes from traditionalism have been wrought by feminism, capitalism, socialism and corporatism i.e modernity. This is all just part of a long drawn out societal collapse.
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  32.  @lightbluedev  I agree
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  33. Yes, it's provided they know themselves and tell the truth. Unfortunately, the vast majority of people are shallow and people of accomplishment are rare. I wonder what the distribution of those qualities are across the sexes?
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  34. Biological wiring is not obsolete. It's like saying the metals that make up circuitry in hard-drives and computers are obsolete because we wrote new code.
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  35.  @JR-iy7pb  Indeed, the manosphere is replete with discussions of men dating down, in fact they see it as the default state, and was certainly the frequently case under traditional social norms. It is very rare among women and not to their satisfaction. The well-established tendency for women to divorce their husbands once their income exceeds his demolishes the argument put by @lorrilewis2178 which is based on personal anecdote not statistics. Female hypergamy is very very evident, notwithstanding some examples of responsible women who can earn more than their partners without a problem on either side.
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  36. Strangely enough, most of what men are looking for comes down to the same basic things: companionship, commitment, emotional support, love etc. That is what makes a proper relationship. So either you are able to find these things, in which case you have no problem, or you can't, in which case your analysis misses the wider social conditions. Society is operating at a very low level due to the erosion of ethics, morality and higher purpose etc. Hypergamous calculations are hard-wired and even the exchange of companionship, commitment, emotional support, love are 'transactional' in that they require an exchange. If the love is one-way, it is not reciprocated. Social science suggests the basal level of transactional calculus is dominant and as the value exchange does not favour men overall they are giving up on relationships. So are women, but in different ways. As others have pointed out, your experience is not really generalisable, and there may also be more subtle expressions of the value exchange implicit in your personal relationships.
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  37. Discussions about facts and sincerely held opinions are not necessarily motivated by emotional states such as insecurity, they can be based on analysis and receptivity to truth. Your appeal to emotionality as a motive for your interlocutors, and as a shaming tactic in an attempt to silence them, is very feminine and ultimately pointless for the purposes of furthering debate and understanding.
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  38. No-one who knows anything about it believes that High Value Males are only those with money and nothing else. This video does not assert that. It was your assumption that it relates only to economic factors. The point is that HVM are defined by women's wants and expectations and HVW by male wants and expectations. A HVW is not about her income or earning power. That is a part of HVM value but the word value transcends money. Otherwise people would just say "Rich".
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  39.  @lari5891  Increasingly less so. Also, the $$$ are only one part of multiple variables affecting the perception of High Market Value. The simplistic view erodes the use of discussing HMV as a model for relationship formation. Even in a normal market, people define value according to their own criteria. When people go shopping for handbags or vegetables they bring different criteria to bear in making their choice. Nonetheless, in aggregate, there is still a market. When you go to a supermarket, you exercise choice in what you do or do not buy. The supermarket or farmer's market definitely exists to service this diverse activity. That's what a market is. It does not mean all people behave the same way, or should.
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  40.  @EC-yl7xk  No-one! No good men help their wives in any way, shape or form whatsoever. They are all evil, exploitative pigs. You go girl!
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  41. Polygamy will increase as a choice made by women. It is weird however that while sex, reproduction and family concerns were predominantly the domain of women (with a major interest by men), you argue that it is up to men to fix the problem? So women have no responsibility for areas in which they have wielded power and interest from time immemorial? Men are leaving the playing field in droves by personal choice, the societal collapse is on those who have wrought massive social changes without thinking them through. You know who I mean.
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  42. ​ @tinachristine4573  Polygamy is a very ancient practice that predates civilisation and even human evolution. Many great apes, including our own ancestors, practice polygamy. It arises from biology not social conditioning and is an expression of female hypergamy and male promiscuity and the following factors: (1) female preference for superior genetics for her offspring; (2) female preference for greater resource access; (3) female desire for greater security; (4) female desire for social frameworks that provide the above; (5) desire by dominant males for reproductive access to more women; (6) the necessity thereby for males to assert dominance over other males. It was hugely disadvantageous for most men who were frozen out of reproductive success as a result. We can deduce that polygamy was the main reproductive strategy for proto-humans for about a million years as the DNA record proves that about 80% of all females reproduced whereas a much smaller proportion of males (the minority of males) did. They were frozen out. This is not a strategy that favors males. Monogamy is associated with the rise of civilisation as it allows most males to contribute productively to social growth by giving them a stake. Your assertions lack scientific evidence unlike mine, and are typical feminist cope based on ideology not facts.
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  43. Modern women are so far from the divine feminine as to be a joke. Who are you kidding? Adopting the worst aspects of faux masculinity, they throw their weight around acting entitled and self-absorbed. You expect honour from men while women are incapable of anything approaching that. Please be serious and stop painting a ridiculous idealistic image of womanhood. Men see through all this and are sick of it. Yes we wish it were true but it isn't. Finis.
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  44. Islam is right about women.
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  45. Not slaves. Kind-hearted, agreeable, pleasant companions. Such women are a rarity and men mourn their loss. The more I learn of female perspectives, the more I realise the much vaunted (by women) trope of their being kind-hearted, agreeable and compassionate is rubbish. Or rather, they are capable of that, to pets, children and those dependent upon them or that they see as lesser. They seem incapable of empathy for men and wish only to denigrate them. Of course, deprecating those you wish to exploit is feature of human psychology, which explains why women everywhere complain about men incessantly. Why even consider their viewpoint when men are so clearly unworthy? Better to just state that men are trash and leave them to their fate. That is the view-point of modern women.
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  46. "High value' is determined by the counter-party. Your definition of a 'high-value women' is what women think is high value (in men). But men do not think that the money that a woman brings makes her high value. Men do not think that a women being able to pleasure herself sexually makes her high value. Men do not think that a woman's 'independence' makes her high value. Men think that 'high value' in women corresponds to an agreeable, kind-hearted, supportive personality. This is extremely rare in modern women and men mourn the loss of these qualities. I am not disagreeing with your point about love being a two-way street. However, it is much easier to elicit love based on mutual positive personality traits than the somewhat transactional examples you gave. Modern women typically conflate the different valuations, thinking that their financial and career success will make them attractive to men. It is not repellant in itself, but often leads to overbearing and 'masculinized' behaviour in women which is deeply unattractive to men.
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  47.  @sandradesouza9940  Thank you for your detailed reply and appreciation of our views. You are correct of course in that women need to have that special feeling. However, (without deprecating women at all) could it be that the "zing' is a type of sexual chemistry? The "feefies", the 'tingle'? If it is not provision, protection/safety, stoicism/resilience, or other character traits? If so, it's Chadrone - the equivalent of male requirements for looks and hotness in women.
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  48.  @АртоВэнтьфорт  Reproduction is in marked decline. The traditional role of women has changed but that of men has not.
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  49. It depends on what country you are in. Australia?
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  50. Shaming as opposed to debating the point is a very feminine strategy, doubt you are a dude? If you are, maybe raised by a single mother, hence quite feminized in your thinking?
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