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Sounds good. Would you say this personally to the relatives of the 2000 people in the US who are dying every day from omicron? ;-)
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Q me in... didn't Trump say that it was just like a cold and that it would be over by Easter 2020? :-)
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The problem is that "infection generates natural immunity" is not even true.
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All it means is that Dr. John Campbell had a really bad day and he needs to think harder about the meaning of the data. :-) Just in case you want hard data: eight people in my family had COVID-19 twice and two had it three times, already. That is what the reality of it looks like. There is no reliable "natural immunity".
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Bwaahahhhhahahhhhahaa... you have obviously never tried to get on a station in a US hospital, kid. :-)
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@genericfemale1093 It is relevant because it shows that you are talking about something you have absolutely no experience with. So are you a Chinese troll or a Russian one? :-)
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We have evidence that it is at least 0.5%. That was for the original virus. If it mutates into an organism resembling SARS, then it's going to be much worse.
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@walterparks1872 We didn't know about the virus in 2019, kid. Somebody needs to teach you how to use the calendar. ;-)
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@walterparks1872 Then he needs a lesson in calendar science himself. ;-)
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There is no such thing as "natural immunity". That's just wishful thinking. We know that antibody count keeps going down both after vaccination and natural infection. The difference is that those who are vaccinated are less likely to become vectors. Those who are getting infected with the virus are vectors by definition.
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OMG! There are blood vessels everywhere! Captain Jane Obvious to the rescue! :-)
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@janelord3061 Yes, they are pretty, aren't they? :-)
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You don't have to believe anything. I, for instance, know that my eight anti-vaxxer relatives had VOCID-19 twice now. Two other relatives who got sinovac had it three times. None of the people in the family who had either Pfizer or Moderna had it even once. These are hard facts. They speak for themselves.
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So it doesn't matter. Nobody in the medical community cares how you define "infection". What the medical community cares about is how to prevent you from dying on a ventilator.
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@patriciuss5743 I have never seen a doctor who has treated the definition of a word, though. They usually treat patients. ;-)
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@patriciuss5743 Dude, people who can do, people who can't talk bullshit on the internet. You are obviously in the latter group. :-)
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To late for that, old girl, I am afraid. ;-)
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We have also been told that previously infected are super immune, but it didn't work for my antivaxxer relatives. The entire branch of the family got it 18 months later for the second time. ;-)
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Sounds good. They are not making any money with it where my relatives like, either... and eight of them had COVID-19 for the second time and two others had it three times now. :-)
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We can and the smart people will. It's the abundance of fools out there that are causing the problem.
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@sms4hou676 You weren't fine when you got COVID. You were a vector who was giving it to others. You hung out with sick people? See, there is no end to it because you all are acting with the stupidity of beans straw. And did all your "boosted" friends and families have huge Christmas and New Year gatherings by any chance? See who is the problem? :-)
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My eight antivaxxer family members have a different story to tell. They already caught the virus for a second time. So much for "natural immunity". :-)
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Canada is half a continent. You can travel for days and days and days within Canada if you want. Just how much space does a person need to be happy?
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Nine out of ten people who are dying from covid are unvaccinated. I guess we are not in Kansas anymore, Rita. :-)
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Especially for a person who taught nurses to vaccinate against flu once a year. ;-)
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Even that is an irrational strategy. My relatives just had covid for the second time. They had it early in the pandemic in 2020 and now, roughly 18 months later they had it again. They clearly must have had antibodies, but there were either not enough of them or they were the wrong antibodies that did not protect them sufficiently against the current strain. It is clearly not a simple yes/no problem.
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So you have data that shows the NZ hospitals were full with covid cases? Please show. ;-)
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What's wrong with 87% lower risk of hospitalization or death than placebo in high risk patients? That's an excellent outcome.
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What makes you believe that it will give you stronger immunity? You never had immunity to the flu and the common cold. If you can't figure something this trivial out on your own, then you are not ready for university, yet.
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@Bethtilburn Cosmetology and rhythmic dancing? Sure, why not. :-)
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It's also not true, so there's that.
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And there is the fake news guy, again. :-)
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@danmattson6980 Yes, you do strike me "naive" that way. :-)
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@danmattson6980 That's exactly why I don't believe any of your bullshit, kid. Now you got it. :-)
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@danmattson6980 It's bullshit. See how easy this is? :-)
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@danmattson6980 I don't have any hope that idiots who are dealing in fake news will ever grow up. ;-)
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@danmattson6980 What comes directly from the source? Not the bullshit that you are peddling. :-)
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Got a link to it? :-)
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Israel has a very mediocre vaccination rate. At least try to troll with halfway believable statements, kid.
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@michaelgonzalez619 Dude, that may have been true a year ago. It's not even close to true today. Stop lying.
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Flu and vomiting? High fever? In what universe was that??? Fatigue is a general sign of virus infections and was always associated with COVID. How did that change? You aren't making any sense.
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@susanperry9311 Eight of my relatives had omicron a couple months ago (that was the second time they got COVID-19). They reported loss of taste, cough, difficulty breathing, fever and malaise that lasted up to two weeks. All of them tested positive for COVID-19. Thanks for the reassurances, but I got all the data I need. The general assessment in my family is that COVID-19 is far worse than the flu. The fist time they got it some family members said it was the worst they had ever felt in their lives. One couple had it three times now and one person has long COVID-19 on top. Thankfully we didn't have any fatalities, yet, but I won't count on it for the future.
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@susanperry9311 First time they had it was wildtype or pre-alpha or whatever you want to call it. The second time was already in the omicron wave, but you are correct, it may have been delta. The couple that had it three times had a wildtype and most likely a delta... so that kind of makes the third infection likely an omicron variant. Be that as it may, none of them ever said that it was "light". I only know one person with a light infection: a doctor who got it at work. The other people I know never had it... but then, they are fully vaccinated and boosted. The "sick" group in my family consists of antivaxxers and the couple that had it three times only had access to sinovac. They may as well have been given saline, IMHO. The other obvious division in my family is socioeconomics: everybody who got COVID was among the less affluent family members without higher education. Those who didn't were more affluent and better educated, i.e. they took far better care of themselves with masking and social distancing.
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@susanperry9311 In my family bad choices all boil down to poor education. Don't get me wrong, these are awfully nice people. I like them. They are not malicious or anything. They simply don't have a working bullshit meter and they have been told all kinds of nonsense about vaccination on the internet. Their go-to phrase about COVID was "We are in god's hands now.", to which the remainder of the family responded with "And god was giving with both hands!" when they got infected for the second time. The simple fact is that one can't talk sense into people who don't have it already.
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That's cool, Dude. Unless you get boosted every six to twelve months you will have COVID-19 again within a year or two tops. The disease mutates and your immune system response weakens. Have fun with it and when the virus starts multiplying in your body, just show it your certificate. I bet it will be very impressed... you know... because it was so hard to get one. :-)
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What the nurse didn't tell you is that there has been peer-reviewed research that showed no relevant clinical advantage of aspiration.
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You could do it the way my antivaxxer relatives are coping with it... they have been ill for the second time in a year and a half. Regular organic refreshers of COVID-19 infections provide natural immunity for a good year to a year and a half. That's about as good as the flu without flu shots. What can go wrong, right?
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Why are you worried about cost? Keeping somebody on the ventilator for two weeks pays for a thousand tests, easily.
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Two of my relatives had sinovac twice. They also had COVID-19 three times. :-)
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There is no such protection. Eight of my relatives had COVID-19 twice now and another two had it three times already. This small counterexample rules out long term natural immunity completely. But then, we never had natural immunity to the flu and the common cold, either, so it's really obvious that natural immunity to COVID-19 is just magical thinking.
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