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You don't need NZ for that. China beat covid in 12 weeks with nothing but lockdowns and tracing.
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Yes, you can acquire natural immunity because a guy on the internet says so. How old are you? ;-)
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Yes, being a filthy vector who infects other people with COVID is entirely amoral. I agree. ;-)
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Fake news. :-)
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@bettyboop2471 Fake news. :-)
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If your doctor tells you not to get vaccinated (except in extreme medical situations), then it's time to look for a new doctor. Or you can let it ride and you may or may not win the Darwin Award lottery. That's always a choice. Maybe not the best one an adult can make, but then... not all adults are making good choices all the time. ;-)
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The experts have been telling the same story since January 2020... it's not their fault that nobody is listening.
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Neither do viruses. If natural immunity was a thing, viruses couldn't even exist. They would die out after having infected the entire population for the first time.
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Yes, that is how the human immune system works. We all have a different immune repertoire. If it's not a good fit to a particular virus, then the body simply can't develop sufficient immunity, neither after vaccination nor infection. Nature doesn't care about the survival of the individual, it only cares about the survival of the species.
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You certainly have a broken keyboard, but you don't have natural immunity, Love.
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@HeavenlyLights Your keyboard is still broken. Why don't you fix that first. ;-)
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@HeavenlyLights Did you replace your keyboard, yet? ;-)
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These people have paranoia independently of what information they are getting. If you tell them that their shoes have shoelaces they will immediately suspect a government conspiracy that is trying to make them stumble. ;-)
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Hello kid who needs attention. Let me be your surrogate Mom for today. ;-)
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It's not really an important metric. Testing really only matters in places where it is done systematically and which have strong tracing and quarantine capabilities and rules. Everywhere else it satisfies people's curiosity (or not) but it does little else.
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That's what your first grade teacher said about you, already. ;-)
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@AncientYouth64 That's the nicest compliment I got all day!
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Why are you proving that you can't do math? What's that going to do for you? :-)
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@jen4um And so now you are telling me that unless one in hundred people dies it's not serious? Why don't you make it one in ten, just to impress me some more with how cool a cucumber you are, kid? :-)
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And there is the lonely kid, again. ;-)
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Not really. We didn't have immunity to the flu or the common cold or other covid viruses before. To think that this one is different amounts to magical thinking and it is not borne out by the facts. Certainly half my family already had it for the second and the third time now.
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@freedombug11 Yes, I did. If you don't know what the difference is between my folks getting it twice in 18 months (rapidly declining antibody count and viral evolution) and three times (the same plus the fact the she works with pre-school children, i.e. without any effective social distancing), then any data is lost on you. Of course infection is great for the initial two months for the same virus. The problem is that a year from now your antibody count will be low and the virus will have mutated... which is exactly the reason why you were always getting the flu and the common cold again and again and again. Please, folks, you need to think about these things.
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@louie1 The other half of my family never had COVID. They were socially distancing and got the vaccines and are still socially distancing. COVID is now basically a disease of the stupid and filthy.
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@freedombug11 I am commenting about ten cases that I know personally that show that there is no such thing as long lasting natural immunity. When was there ever long lasting immunity against the flu or the common cold???? People are buying into religious interpretations of very fresh data here. Yes, my relatives didn't get re-infected after two months, either. There were up to eighteen months, or so, between the first and the last infections. So do you have great immunity for two months? Absolutely. After a year? Not so much. Not with the vaccines and not with a primary infection by the virus. And THAT is the problem.
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@freedombug11 Dude, not to take a vaccine that offers excellent protection is plain stupid. There is no other way to say this, OK? Why did I say filthy? Because you don't get a disease by looking at an infected person on the internet. You have to be close and that is a choice. Social distancing works. The Chinese have proven that one can eradicate the disease with social distancing in twelve weeks. I bet it can be done in four to six, as long as everybody is willing to stay 20 feet away from everybody else. Yes, it is that simple. Would you like an STD with that? Can you guess how that works? Not by looking, kid. :-)
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@freedombug11 My relatives wouldn't know anything about that "better immunity" thing, my friend. They were sick two and three times now. So maybe all of this is true in your universe, it's certainly not true in theirs and mine. I am vaccinated and boosted and I didn't get sick even once. Neither did any of the other people I know who did the same, less one. Guess what he is? A medical doctor. He got it at work from a patient. Yes, I am pejorative because the problem here are NOT the people who are vaccinated and who socially distance. It's the people who are doing nether. Dumb and filthy is a pejorative way of saying just that. It's by design because that is how I think about people who can't learn, nay, who do not want to learn. As an educated person who has gone out of his way to protect myself and others I had it with the dumb and filthy. Excuse my language.
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The essential difference between "natural immunity" (which doesn't exist) and the vaccinated is that the vaccinated don't become vectors quite as often. I think we made a huge PR mistake by not educating the public that vaccinations' main purpose is to disrupt the spread of the disease. It's not just about keeping infected individuals out of the ICU. As a consequence we did not effectively disrupt COVID-19.
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So that's absolutely everybody. Glad we agree.
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You are correct. They are at such a low risk that my relatives infected a less than one year old with it. That's what loving parents do, these days. They make their own children sick. ;-)
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It works well for everybody in my family who had Moderna and Pfizer. None of us have gotten COVID-19 even once. The eight antivaxxers, of course, had it twice, already. So much for "natural immunity". :-)
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@crlwsmn The antivaxxers? They have never done well in life. Lots of divorce and other drama. Also always teetering on the economic edge. Why would you expect people who are making poor decisions in one area of life to make better decisions in others? :-)
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@marklangager8817 Oh, boy, now the crazy is coming out. :-)
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@marklangager8817 Nah, it's already here on YouTube. :-)
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You sound damaged.
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My eight antivaxxer relatives had full blown COVID-19 symptoms for two weeks twice now. This idea that it's getting milder is not backed up by any experience. People simply wish for it to be milder. That doesn't mean it is.
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If you were invented in Pfizer, kid, then you missed the really great opportunities in the stock market. Why are you telling us that you are a poor investor? :-)
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Getting vaccinated before you get covid is the best you can do.
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Nobody forces you to die on a hospital ventilator. You are welcome to die at home in the US. It's a free country. :-)
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Truth to be told, folks, many of you have become the drowning man in the joke of the same name. The Chinese give you proof that one can eradicate the disease with social distancing alone. You ignore it. The pharmaceutical industry makes vaccines for you that work. You shun them. School boards are trying to implement common sense measures to protect your children in school. You sue them. And then you come here and you are hoping for a miracle of nature. What does that make you, folks? Do I really have to say it?
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You do realize that the virus doesn't care about your delusions and political ideas, right? All it ever does is to make you its reproductive organ. ;-)
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No different from the flu shot. What is the problem with that? I have been getting flu shots for fifteen years now and I didn't have the flu even once. If it works the same way for COVID-19, I will be a happy camper. ;-)
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And there is the kid who failed in high school and didn't get enough attention from his mother. ;-)
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I have eight relatives who had COVID-19 for a second time recently. We know who got it first and in what order they infected each other. You need to stop the magical thinking. It doesn't work.
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The unvaccinated still have a much higher death rate than the vaccinated. Nothing has changed. That, by the way, was also true in the past for diseases like the flu, so why would this have changed?
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Now that the entire world seems to be relaxing the mask mandates etc. we will be testing the natural immunity thing for good. My money is on the virus. :-)
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My antivaxxer relatives have been doing field tests on themselves for two years now and they had COVID for the second time a couple months ago. Natural immunity seems to last about a year, maybe a year and a half. Just like with the flu and the common cold, it really works. ;-)
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@stickman-1 See, now you are catching on to why "natural immunity" does not work for any of these diseases and why we need vaccines that track their evolution. Congrats... every middle school student knows this already after one 45 minute science lesson about how vaccines work. :-)
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You already are, for all I can tell. :-)
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Who are you and why should I care? :-)
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Tell that to the dead, kid. I will give you attention anyway.
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